US has no good options in Ukraine

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And this is how the world ends unless there is a Russian general with a sidearm willing to end this madness.

Never thought the world would end over a battle for Ukraine.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, explain to me how come no country ever sanctioned the U.S. when you bombed Serbia without NATO approval? Instead, Serbia was under sanctions? Or when the U.S. invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
Bcs the U.S. holed the power in the world, politically, economically and militarily.
But, when Russia does it, oh, no? They are bad!

Russia is a shithole of a country and a bad actor on the global stage. It’s got a monstrous inferiority complex and always resorts to stirring up diplomatic BS just to attract attention and remind the world it exists.

Ok, and the U.S. is a great nation with millions of people living in poverty and in tents? And the U.S. is not full of BS?

US is ripe for criticism, for sure, but that doesn't mean Russia's murdering of innocent civilians isn't bad.

The U.S. kills innocent civilians all the time. Are you not aware of that?

I just said they're ripe for criticism, so yes, I'm clearly aware of that. But the US doesn't target innocent civilians. Innocent Ukrainian civlians are being targeted by Russia. You're trying to excuse it by saying the U.S. does the same thing, when it does not. Ylu are telling a reprehensible lie.

The truth is that admitting to what I am saying is not just embarrassing to you, it is also painful. You do not want to see the truth of your country BCS your identity and pride are directly tied to how you perceive your country. To admit that the U.S. is just as brutal and kills just as many if not more civilians, over the course of the years and in present, would tear down the very fabric of who you believe you are. It would tear you down.
You will not get any of what I wrote, you do not have the capacity to understand it, nor the education to get it. But, some pp here will get it and they know I am telling the truth. You find ways to omit from your consciousness some truths that are too painful to acknowledge. People like you are the very product of the nation's indoctrination and necessary to create the fighting force that will willingly die, for some nebulous higher purpose, such as "my country is good and the country they want me to fight is bad."

What country are you from?

Why does it matter. The statement's idiocy shines through on their own. Let's not associate this one person's extreme views with an entire nation.

Every "I am so smart person" thinks he/she is smart as can be. You know everything there is to know, I am an idiot saying idiocies. You have no idea how to even contemplate a differing opinion. A true sign of every stupid person is that he/she knows she is smart and knows everything. Hence your "brilliant" tearing down of my post, no intellectual knowledge backed debate from you, nope, I am stupid and a troll bcs you are smart and know everything.

Nothing wrong with different vantage points; even if you disagree with them. American ignorance and/or bias can be strong and lead to very shallow understandings of otherwise complex situations. Not saying that anyone would arrive at a different opinion, but a lot of analysis in this thread is shallow, with clear inflections of corporate media propaganda.

OK, I’ll explain it to you. Not completely, but as simply as I can so you can understand. Serbia was conducting the most horrible European genocide since the Holocaust. That’s why the world wasn’t condemning us.

https://balkaninsight.com/2021/12/30/serbia-war-criminals-convicted-in-the-hague-glorified-in-belgrade/

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Are they? I know the regular diplomat kids born here are not automatically citizens. That is about the only person who is not automatically a citizen born here.

My understanding is that while technically diplomat children are exempt, this is a gray area that is difficult to enforce. Basically as long as you don’t come to the hospital in a t-shirt that says “I am a foreign diplomat” the folks who process the birth certificate won’t know, and a SSN is issued automatically. Also there are a lot of adjacent professions at the embassies. See Vasily Strelnikov as an example.

Yes, exactly, and their staffers, drivers, etc all make it happen.

Wouldn’t this also come with some benefits, like the ability to tax them and execute them for treason?

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And this is how the world ends unless there is a Russian general with a sidearm willing to end this madness.

Never thought the world would end over a battle for Ukraine.

Russia was never going to stop over Ukraine. Putin just wasn’t expecting the pushback this early. Things aren’t looking good for his reconquest, and I truly believe he will only live if this whole enterprise is successful. He is not acting like a man confident in his place and position,

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What will the world do if Russia nukes Ukraine?

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One more question, can another country use some sort of missile defense to stop a nuke that’s been launched?

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, explain to me how come no country ever sanctioned the U.S. when you bombed Serbia without NATO approval? Instead, Serbia was under sanctions? Or when the U.S. invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
Bcs the U.S. holed the power in the world, politically, economically and militarily.
But, when Russia does it, oh, no? They are bad!

Russia is a shithole of a country and a bad actor on the global stage. It’s got a monstrous inferiority complex and always resorts to stirring up diplomatic BS just to attract attention and remind the world it exists.

Ok, and the U.S. is a great nation with millions of people living in poverty and in tents? And the U.S. is not full of BS?

US is ripe for criticism, for sure, but that doesn't mean Russia's murdering of innocent civilians isn't bad.

The U.S. kills innocent civilians all the time. Are you not aware of that?

I just said they're ripe for criticism, so yes, I'm clearly aware of that. But the US doesn't target innocent civilians. Innocent Ukrainian civlians are being targeted by Russia. You're trying to excuse it by saying the U.S. does the same thing, when it does not. Ylu are telling a reprehensible lie.

The truth is that admitting to what I am saying is not just embarrassing to you, it is also painful. You do not want to see the truth of your country BCS your identity and pride are directly tied to how you perceive your country. To admit that the U.S. is just as brutal and kills just as many if not more civilians, over the course of the years and in present, would tear down the very fabric of who you believe you are. It would tear you down.
You will not get any of what I wrote, you do not have the capacity to understand it, nor the education to get it. But, some pp here will get it and they know I am telling the truth. You find ways to omit from your consciousness some truths that are too painful to acknowledge. People like you are the very product of the nation's indoctrination and necessary to create the fighting force that will willingly die, for some nebulous higher purpose, such as "my country is good and the country they want me to fight is bad."

What country are you from?

Why does it matter. The statement's idiocy shines through on their own. Let's not associate this one person's extreme views with an entire nation.

Every "I am so smart person" thinks he/she is smart as can be. You know everything there is to know, I am an idiot saying idiocies. You have no idea how to even contemplate a differing opinion. A true sign of every stupid person is that he/she knows she is smart and knows everything. Hence your "brilliant" tearing down of my post, no intellectual knowledge backed debate from you, nope, I am stupid and a troll bcs you are smart and know everything.

Nothing wrong with different vantage points; even if you disagree with them. American ignorance and/or bias can be strong and lead to very shallow understandings of otherwise complex situations. Not saying that anyone would arrive at a different opinion, but a lot of analysis in this thread is shallow, with clear inflections of corporate media propaganda.

OK, I’ll explain it to you. Not completely, but as simply as I can so you can understand. Serbia was conducting the most horrible European genocide since the Holocaust. That’s why the world wasn’t condemning us.

https://balkaninsight.com/2021/12/30/serbia-war-criminals-convicted-in-the-hague-glorified-in-belgrade/

This isn't just about Serbia, genius. It's about how other people come to arrive at their beliefs about the U.S. and other geopolitical events. You're probably too arrogant to think that matters though.

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Anonymous wrote:One more question, can another country use some sort of missile defense to stop a nuke that’s been launched?

This is where I hope the tin foilers are not actually crazy and there’s some legit security relationship between the US and aliens from outer space. I need a drink.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, explain to me how come no country ever sanctioned the U.S. when you bombed Serbia without NATO approval? Instead, Serbia was under sanctions? Or when the U.S. invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
Bcs the U.S. holed the power in the world, politically, economically and militarily.
But, when Russia does it, oh, no? They are bad!

Russia is a shithole of a country and a bad actor on the global stage. It’s got a monstrous inferiority complex and always resorts to stirring up diplomatic BS just to attract attention and remind the world it exists.

Ok, and the U.S. is a great nation with millions of people living in poverty and in tents? And the U.S. is not full of BS?

US is ripe for criticism, for sure, but that doesn't mean Russia's murdering of innocent civilians isn't bad.

The U.S. kills innocent civilians all the time. Are you not aware of that?

I just said they're ripe for criticism, so yes, I'm clearly aware of that. But the US doesn't target innocent civilians. Innocent Ukrainian civlians are being targeted by Russia. You're trying to excuse it by saying the U.S. does the same thing, when it does not. Ylu are telling a reprehensible lie.

The truth is that admitting to what I am saying is not just embarrassing to you, it is also painful. You do not want to see the truth of your country BCS your identity and pride are directly tied to how you perceive your country. To admit that the U.S. is just as brutal and kills just as many if not more civilians, over the course of the years and in present, would tear down the very fabric of who you believe you are. It would tear you down.
You will not get any of what I wrote, you do not have the capacity to understand it, nor the education to get it. But, some pp here will get it and they know I am telling the truth. You find ways to omit from your consciousness some truths that are too painful to acknowledge. People like you are the very product of the nation's indoctrination and necessary to create the fighting force that will willingly die, for some nebulous higher purpose, such as "my country is good and the country they want me to fight is bad."

What country are you from?

Why does it matter. The statement's idiocy shines through on their own. Let's not associate this one person's extreme views with an entire nation.

Every "I am so smart person" thinks he/she is smart as can be. You know everything there is to know, I am an idiot saying idiocies. You have no idea how to even contemplate a differing opinion. A true sign of every stupid person is that he/she knows she is smart and knows everything. Hence your "brilliant" tearing down of my post, no intellectual knowledge backed debate from you, nope, I am stupid and a troll bcs you are smart and know everything.

Nothing wrong with different vantage points; even if you disagree with them. American ignorance and/or bias can be strong and lead to very shallow understandings of otherwise complex situations. Not saying that anyone would arrive at a different opinion, but a lot of analysis in this thread is shallow, with clear inflections of corporate media propaganda.

OK, I’ll explain it to you. Not completely, but as simply as I can so you can understand. Serbia was conducting the most horrible European genocide since the Holocaust. That’s why the world wasn’t condemning us.

https://balkaninsight.com/2021/12/30/serbia-war-criminals-convicted-in-the-hague-glorified-in-belgrade/

This isn't just about Serbia, genius. It's about how other people come to arrive at their beliefs about the U.S. and other geopolitical events. You're probably too arrogant to think that matters though.

DP. What's that got to do with Russia making unprovoked attacks on Ukraniam civilians?

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Anonymous wrote:One more question, can another country use some sort of missile defense to stop a nuke that’s been launched?

This is where I hope the tin foilers are not actually crazy and there’s some legit security relationship between the US and aliens from outer space. I need a drink.

Not to worry. James Bond is in orbit and a fleet of space shuttles is ready to destroy any nukes with laser beams...

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Anonymous wrote:One more question, can another country use some sort of missile defense to stop a nuke that’s been launched?

This is where I hope the tin foilers are not actually crazy and there’s some legit security relationship between the US and aliens from outer space. I need a drink.

I don’t understand your answer. I also don’t understand how nuclear warheads and missile defense systems work, which is why I asked the question.

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Anonymous wrote:What will the world do if Russia nukes Ukraine?

Russia isn’t going to nuke Ukraine. If it comes to that, it will nuke the west.

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Anonymous wrote:One more question, can another country use some sort of missile defense to stop a nuke that’s been launched?

This is where I hope the tin foilers are not actually crazy and there’s some legit security relationship between the US and aliens from outer space. I need a drink.

Not to worry. James Bond is in orbit and a fleet of space shuttles is ready to destroy any nukes with laser beams...

I’ve made it a point for most of my adult life to avoid learning about weapons of mass destruction. It’s upsetting to me. I’m asking an honest question, and your snark isn’t appreciated.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he let the US evacuate his wife and kids.

+1

From the latest reports I read in WaPo it sounds like the family all remains in Ukraine.

Ukraine is the largest country, physically, in Europe after Russia. There are many places for a family to hide in the Ukrainian countryside. His family is very likely close to the border, where they can slip into the EU quickly.

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Anonymous wrote:Honestly, explain to me how come no country ever sanctioned the U.S. when you bombed Serbia without NATO approval? Instead, Serbia was under sanctions? Or when the U.S. invaded Iraq? Or Afghanistan?
Bcs the U.S. holed the power in the world, politically, economically and militarily.
But, when Russia does it, oh, no? They are bad!

Russia is a shithole of a country and a bad actor on the global stage. It’s got a monstrous inferiority complex and always resorts to stirring up diplomatic BS just to attract attention and remind the world it exists.

Ok, and the U.S. is a great nation with millions of people living in poverty and in tents? And the U.S. is not full of BS?

US is ripe for criticism, for sure, but that doesn't mean Russia's murdering of innocent civilians isn't bad.

The U.S. kills innocent civilians all the time. Are you not aware of that?

I just said they're ripe for criticism, so yes, I'm clearly aware of that. But the US doesn't target innocent civilians. Innocent Ukrainian civlians are being targeted by Russia. You're trying to excuse it by saying the U.S. does the same thing, when it does not. Ylu are telling a reprehensible lie.

The truth is that admitting to what I am saying is not just embarrassing to you, it is also painful. You do not want to see the truth of your country BCS your identity and pride are directly tied to how you perceive your country. To admit that the U.S. is just as brutal and kills just as many if not more civilians, over the course of the years and in present, would tear down the very fabric of who you believe you are. It would tear you down.
You will not get any of what I wrote, you do not have the capacity to understand it, nor the education to get it. But, some pp here will get it and they know I am telling the truth. You find ways to omit from your consciousness some truths that are too painful to acknowledge. People like you are the very product of the nation's indoctrination and necessary to create the fighting force that will willingly die, for some nebulous higher purpose, such as "my country is good and the country they want me to fight is bad."

What country are you from?

Why does it matter. The statement's idiocy shines through on their own. Let's not associate this one person's extreme views with an entire nation.

Every "I am so smart person" thinks he/she is smart as can be. You know everything there is to know, I am an idiot saying idiocies. You have no idea how to even contemplate a differing opinion. A true sign of every stupid person is that he/she knows she is smart and knows everything. Hence your "brilliant" tearing down of my post, no intellectual knowledge backed debate from you, nope, I am stupid and a troll bcs you are smart and know everything.

Nothing wrong with different vantage points; even if you disagree with them. American ignorance and/or bias can be strong and lead to very shallow understandings of otherwise complex situations. Not saying that anyone would arrive at a different opinion, but a lot of analysis in this thread is shallow, with clear inflections of corporate media propaganda.

OK, I’ll explain it to you. Not completely, but as simply as I can so you can understand. Serbia was conducting the most horrible European genocide since the Holocaust. That’s why the world wasn’t condemning us.

https://balkaninsight.com/2021/12/30/serbia-war-criminals-convicted-in-the-hague-glorified-in-belgrade/

This isn't just about Serbia, genius. It's about how other people come to arrive at their beliefs about the U.S. and other geopolitical events. You're probably too arrogant to think that matters though.

DP. What's that got to do with Russia making unprovoked attacks on Ukraniam civilians?

In this particular instance, it's about better understanding the foundations and strength of Putin's domestic support, how effective his propaganda can be versus how divorced it is from reality (even over there), and what ways he has of extricating himself from what looks to be a quagmire while preserving what he thinks his legacy is and minimizing loss of life. I imagine the message "U.S. good, you bad" doesn't quite hit the same around the world.