MAGA teen bused in from a Catholic school harasses Indigenous People's marcher. Vile.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If the liberals continue with their recklessness and arrogance, they will hurt their ultimate cause and get Donald Trump re-elected.

Yes, this is clearly reflected in Trump’s approval rating , oh wait, never mind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The basilica has cameras. They can release footage if they want to. Maybe they will or maybe they won't. Till then, there's not much to talk about that happened there.

Anti-Catholic group tries to disrupt a religious service, at a Catholic Basilica (specially blessed church) which is also the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception of Mary; then holds a press conference with the shrine in the background?

How is pounding on the doors of Church/Synagog/Mosque/Temple to disrupt the religious celebration going on,
and the gleefully holding a press conference about it, NOT SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT?

People attending a religious service had to GO MEDIEVAL AND BOLT THE FRIGGIN DOORS to keep out people trying to disrupt, desecrate their religious observance, AND THE MEDIA reward that behavior with publicity....

What is wrong with you people?
Banging on the church doors to disrupt religious services is BAD BEHAVIOR.
WHY IN THE WORLD is it necessary to explain that civilized people don't reward childish attention seeking behavior?

Simple, they're Catholic.
They deserve it.
Facts are irrelevant when it's not about WHAT THEY DID, but WHO THEY ARE.

If Nathan Phillips' actions and press conference make the "right people" feel better about their prejudices,
THEN THERES NOT MUCH TO TALK ABOUT.

Well partly this is true. As a Catholic, I'm very saddened by what the church has turned into or what has been revealed that was kept hidden for years. So are many others. MAGA hats and getting into altercations would not have been appropriate in years past.

Maybe the boys weren't behaving so awful compared to the adults, but it still has completely turned me off to having any respect for the march and has made me rethink leaving the church for a protestant denomination. Based on last year's version though, my faith in this march doing good was teetering, so I can't place too much blame on the boys.

If you are leaving the church because of the March and your perception of whether it "does any good", you aren't much of a Catholic to start with.

No, not leaving just because of the march. It's just another aspect. The march is hardly the only stain on the Catholic Church right now.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Take your soapbox elsewhere. Several of those you mentioned here were not even children. You have an agenda.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Extend this comment to all white men and you have the Trump presidency in a nutshell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is emblematic of what is wrong with the age of social media and viral videos. The reactions to this video are totally overblown. We all need to step back. All sides of this argument have said things on this thread that are out of line.

Up-thread someone said this should have been a moment that happened and then everyone just moved on, but instead, because of the stupid videos and our 24-hour "news" cycle, its gone haywire.

And we need to do something actively to stop the death threats and complete hijacking of people's lives every time something like this happens. Bad people from both extremes come out of the woodwork and it's not acceptable.

Everyone who has contributed to this thread should listen to this story about bias:
https://www.npr.org/2019/01/23/687619738/why-camera-angles-and-bias-undermine-u-s-legal-system

The problem is that once again the media took the narrative they wanted and ran with it, without researching even a little bit further. That is not journalism. That is editorializing.

Then the radical left took it another step further by doxing the kids, issuing death threats and threats of violence, calling for these kids lives to be ruined, their school to be shot up and more.

Had the media practiced even a little bit of high school level journalism, it never would have gotten to this point.

And as soon as they realized the original narrative was untrue, or shaped, they should have swiftly, repeatedly and boldly issued retractions and apologies.

But as Joy Behard so honestly stated, this is about the left using whatever means necessary to take down Trump, even if it means inflaming our country through false pretenses, even if it means ruining these kids lives over at best a misunderstanding or at worst, a set up and hoax. They are so eager to take down Trump that they do not care if a byproduct is one of their crazy fringe actually deciding to follow up with their violent threats and harming or killing one of these kids or their entire school.

That is vile.

Liberals, true liberals, need to start standing up forcefully to these leftist internet vipers. They are unleashing a level of crazy that they are soon not going to be able to control, and which will turn on them soon at the drop of a hat. You are already starting to see it happen on a small scale with liberals Chris Rock and Ellen. It will happen more and more, the more powerful the left allows their fringe element to become.

I agree with everything you said. +100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Actually, the message is.......

Left wing activists decide that children are expendable in order to advance their agenda.

From a supporter of the administration that locks children in cages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote: Who knew? Trump's top White House attorney is Covington Catholic High School graduate

The nationwide firestorm surrounding Covington Catholic has brought to light that one of the Greater Cincinnati high school's most prominent graduates happens to be President Trump's top White House attorney.

Pat Cipollone, CovCath class of 1984, recently took over as White House general counsel. He had previously served as an informal adviser to the president on the special counsel investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.

Interesting!

Did you try to connect a kid at a Pro-Life rally to Russian interference in the 2016 election?

Diagnosis: TDS

Check, please.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Democratic Senator Ilhan Omar couldn't resist jumping in the fray and stating known falsehoods:

Ilhan Omar
?
Verified account

@IlhanMN
11h11 hours ago
More Ilhan Omar Retweeted Donald J. Trump
-The boys were protesting a woman's right to choose & yelled “it’s not rape if you enjoy it”
-They were taunting 5 Black men before they surrounded Phillips and led racist chants
-Sandmann’s family hired a right wing PR firm to write his non-apology

This woman is crazy. She has said some very anti-semitic things for which she has NEVER been held accountable for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Vile is demonizing children. Vile is slanting a news story to elicit a certain reaction. Vile is mocking children and splashing their little faces all over when their actions were a REACTION to something. Shameful.

Yes I agree it is vile to demonize children. All children. So spare us your faux outrage. You've never spoken up for the demonization of Michael Brown. For the demonization of Trayvon Martin. For the demonization of children torn from their parents' arms at the border and painted as MS-13 gang members. For the demonization of the Central Park 5 by none other than your president who wanted the state to kill them and then never apologized or changed his mind when their innocence was proven. Do you believe in sending children to adult prisons for the rest of their life? Do you speak out against such cases? I would wager you've never given it a thought, or don't really care to learn about such cases.

This is one of the reasons this story has gotten so many people riled up. Because people see how white kids get painted as choir boys despite being loud and obnoxious while black kids and immigrant kids get called adult thugs. White boys get put on the Supreme Court after a childhood of being obnoxious a-holes who have harrassed girls, because their childhood is protected in a way that the childhoods of black and brown children are not. You are blind if you deny that, no better than that guy in the post story living in his bubble where racial killings never happened in his hometown because he never heard about them.

It's telling that you refuse to admit these boys were not very good representatives of their Catholic faith when they acted so unruly at a National Memorial to a slain president. That doesn't demonize them to say that. It's not demonizing to say please don't look the other way with a blithe "boys will be boys" and give them a pass for their unruliness. It's not demonizing to say take a look at another group of white kids who stood in a circle and prayed quietly while being yelled at and then told the group of black Israelites they loved them before calmly walking away, and then advise those Convington boys "this is the ideal way to behave to show your Christian faith." That's not demonizing. That's teaching. You can't say these boys were in town because their religious faith and concern for the sanctity of all human life compelled them to demonstrate against abortion and then give them a pass for acting completely contrary to that faith with their obnoxiousness.

And no one will ever convince me that boy was praying when he stood unmoving with a smirk. So he lied about it. I believe that's a confessable sin.

Death threats are terrible and should be condemned, just as there should have been no death threats against Christine Blasey Ford or death threats against the Central Park 5 by Trump. I condemn the death threats against these boys. Did you condemn the death threats against Ford, who as of late fall still had a security detail because she still was receiving them?

You cannot look at this through anything but the racial and gendered issues that plague our nation. There is no ground zero on which to judge what's going on. Yes people are mad, because they are mad at the inequitable system that always gives such privileged boys a break while striking down boys of a different, less privileged racial-socio-economic status.

Amen.

another pp, this really does get at the heart of things...I'm not suggesting any kind of solution that will surely be taken out of context except to say that we are a nation that has failed our children as role models, protectors, and teachers.

The gaslighting that has followed the boys’ behavior Sunday is as much the problem as the behavior itself.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Extend this comment to all white men and you have the Trump presidency in a nutshell.

Or maybe people like to defend boys who are innocent because IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING other than smirk, wear MAGA hats, and be pro-life and Catholic.

Could you imagine if this was a group of boys from Jewish Day school, wearing Hillary t-shirts, at the Women's March?

Maybe the theme should be "Left wing trolls love to create hysteria around nothing, since they have an unsubstantiated fear of Trumps presidency through 2026"

[Anonymous]

Twitter reporting that Sandmann claims Trump is sending a plane to get the students to visit the WH. Awesome, now planes can be used during the shutdown to promote White Supremacy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Extend this comment to all white men and you have the Trump presidency in a nutshell.

Or maybe people like to defend boys who are innocent because IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING other than smirk, wear MAGA hats, and be pro-life and Catholic.

Could you imagine if this was a group of boys from Jewish Day school, wearing Hillary t-shirts, at the Women's March?

Maybe the theme should be "Left wing trolls love to create hysteria around nothing, since they have an unsubstantiated fear of Trumps presidency through 2026"

Wearing a MAGA hat is the height of stupidity and selfishness. It says, I have no standards. I have no issue with what this president is doing. I don't care if my president is ethical. I don't care that he is profiting off his office. I don't care that he appoints criminals and grifters. I don't care that he can't string together words to form a coherent sentence. In fact, I support it so much I bought and am proudly wearing this $24.99 hat made in China, without understanding or appreciating the irony.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Twitter reporting that Sandmann claims Trump is sending a plane to get the students to visit the WH. Awesome, now planes can be used during the shutdown to promote White Supremacy.

Are you trying to spread rumors again? The interview I saw with 2 students this morning indicated that there would be no meeting until the shut down is over.

Have you learned nothing from this whole episode.

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD - CHECK INFORMATION BEFORE YOU START SPREADING RUMORS!! FIND OUT THE WHOLE STORY!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Message of this thread: Right wing trolls really love to defend white boys who act like assholes.

Extend this comment to all white men and you have the Trump presidency in a nutshell.

Or maybe people like to defend boys who are innocent because IT HAS BEEN PROVEN THEY HAVE DONE NOTHING other than smirk, wear MAGA hats, and be pro-life and Catholic.

Could you imagine if this was a group of boys from Jewish Day school, wearing Hillary t-shirts, at the Women's March?

Maybe the theme should be "Left wing trolls love to create hysteria around nothing, since they have an unsubstantiated fear of Trumps presidency through 2026"

Wearing a MAGA hat is the height of stupidity and selfishness. It says, I have no standards. I have no issue with what this president is doing. I don't care if my president is ethical. I don't care that he is profiting off his office. I don't care that he appoints criminals and grifters. I don't care that he can't string together words to form a coherent sentence. In fact, I support it so much I bought and am proudly wearing this $24.99 hat made in China, without understanding or appreciating the irony.

Give it a rest.
We know you don't like Trump. We know you are part of the #resistance.
But, millions do. Millions wear the hat. It's a free country. And, your diatribe is a bunch of crap.
Oh, and the official hats aren't made in China. Knock offs are. But, you knew that.