Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread

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jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for posting Jeff. Hard to fathom a hillary voter exists who is says a person is "qualified" for the supreme court when multiple women have decided to turn their lives upside down to come out with their accusations of sexual assault and grooming women for gang rape (as well as being in line for it).

I didn't understand her to say that, but there are many influential Democrats who do say that Kavanaugh is qualified. Sadly, elites often stick together.

The pp said "Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed."

[Anonymous]

America 2018 where you are guilty based on words and not evidence.

If a women up for confirmation have her career derailed because at Mardi Gras she flashed her boobs in my face?

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Anonymous wrote:Probably the biggest flaw to Ford's claim is that she can't remember whose house it was.

I went to plenty of high school parties in my day. I remember the houses. Even when I was drunk. If something like this had happened, I would always have remembered the house in question, even if I didn't know who the owners were or what kid lived in the house. I'd find that part out pretty quickly afterwards just by virtue of living in the area. If it was that traumatizing, I'd remember by virtue of simply avoiding the street or block the house was on.

Her memory of the event is so hazy that I can't trust it. I can't trust her not to confuse Kavanaugh for someone else, I can't trust her mind not to have played tricks on her after 36 years.

You may think you can remember the houses where you partied at, but I bet if you were to find them all right now, you couldn't. Especially if you moved out of the area years ago, as Dr. Ford did.

That's a pretty weak rebuttal.

Ford lived in the DC area for several years after the alleged attack. And not only that, but in a very specific area of the DC region where all the private school kids lived. There is no way I buy the idea she cannot remember the house or street where it happened. I was mugged as a teenager once, knocked down, beaten and I remember exactly where it happened, the street, and the house in front of where it happened and the people coming out to help me. If something like this attack happened to Ford, I do not believe she so buried the experience that she failed to remember where it happened or never figured out where it happened in the years afterwards.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting, and telling, that the only accusations that have come out have been from over 30 years ago? Nothing recent......

In other words.... unprovable either way.

Yes, it seems that, aside from being longtime buddies with Kozinski, when there was no easy opportunity, Kavanaugh didn't go around raping girls. Good for him, I guess.

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

sorry, don't believe you

What the Hillary-voting poster says is essentially true and I don't why people are not believing her. Where I differ with the poster is that what she describes is a bad thing. She obviously favors a totally fact-based legalistic approach. I don't think the Republicans in the Senate care about facts and facts would be lost on them. So, while a legalistic approach might be honorable, it would also be a failure. The one way to defeat Kavanaugh it to do so politically. If that means "guilt-by-association" wherein the association is with gang-rape, I am perfectly comfortable with that. If Kavanaugh wants to admit to teenage indiscretions, so be it. But, lying about it makes him unfit for the court.

Not to mention, I'm pretty sure it's illegal to spike girls' drinks in order for them to gang raped by other boys even if you don't do the raping yourself.

"I also witnessed efforts by Mark Judge, Brett Kavanaugh and others to cause girls to become inebriated and disoriented so they could be 'gang raped' in a side room or bedroom by a 'train' of numerous boys."

This isn't just "they were at the same parties".

Thanks for posting Jeff. Hard to fathom a hillary voter exists who is says a person is "qualified" for the supreme court when multiple women have decided to turn their lives upside down to come out with their accusations of sexual assault and grooming women for gang rape (as well as being in line for it).

Lol! Their lives aren’t turned upside down. These are liberal women whose liberal bubbles are celebrating them. He’s qualified because of his legal background. Drinking at teenage parties where bad things may have happened is not a disqualification. It’s sad how much of your identity and ability to reason is caught up in the Democratic Party and taking down Trump. Direct some of that critical thinking at yourself and your own party.

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American Psychological Association has said that people process traumatic memories in different ways. Your anecdote only shows you remembered your case differently

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Lol. You have no idea how much he did or didn’t drink. This whole thing is bullshit. He’s qualified and will be confirmed.

can't believe you're a real person

I am and a woman and a Democrat who voted for Hillary. Also a lawyer. This campaign is transparently political and the allegations are drafted to be vague guilt-by-association nonsense with timing that is ridiculously and transparently politically-motivated. It’s a campaign to discredit him based on him being at parties where bad things may have happened. You are a sheep and a part of the brainless mob for believing this stuff.

Thank you. It is ludicrous.
So, what is her evidence? Dates? Witnesses? Proof?

It hasn't even hit the major news sites yet and you're discounting it because additional information hasn't been presented? I think it's pretty clear that you've already decided what you will and will not believe regardless of what is said.

The affidavit is online. What should I be waiting for? You don’t think waiting for literally the day before he testifies shows how politically motivated this campaign is? Sorry, the man was nominated long ago and has been sitting on the bench of an important court for years. This is total bullshit.

Where you just as upset about the GOP withholding 90% of his written documents? Or that they released 56,000 pages one day before the senate judiciary hearings?

Lol, really moving the goal posts aren’t we? Do you know how to argue? Do you understand logic? They released an unprecedented amount of documents. Kavanaugh has a long record so, yes, a lot of the documents were reasonably subject to the objection that they were protected by executive privilege. Once again, I’m a lawyer. The GOP objection was reasonable.

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Give the guy a fair investigation from the FBI for geez sakes! If he is innocent then investigate - then put him on the bench if he is proven innocent by our own processes of Justice. That's the right way to do it. If all of these allegations are a spear campaign, then investigate! Prove his innocence instead of trying to ram this nomination through. If he is such a boy scout then they should prove it. Republicans control all of the levers here.

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No accuser is turning their life upside down. They'll soon have book deals and talk show spots. They'll be glorified by leftist crazies as their hororines. Just watch. What's a little temporary discomfort worth?

[Anonymous]

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Lol! Their lives aren’t turned upside down. These are liberal women whose liberal bubbles are celebrating them. He’s qualified because of his legal background. Drinking at teenage parties where bad things may have happened is not a disqualification. It’s sad how much of your identity and ability to reason is caught up in the Democratic Party and taking down Trump. Direct some of that critical thinking at yourself and your own party.

You don't think death threats and being forced out of your home is having your life turned upside down?

My identity isn't caught up in the Democratic Party - I'll probably vote for republicans in my local elections this fall.

Call me crazy but.. maybe I just don't want a suspected gang rapist to be confirmed to the supreme court?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:America 2018 where you are guilty based on words and not evidence.

If a women up for confirmation have her career derailed because at Mardi Gras she flashed her boobs in my face?

Or flip the bird at the president while riding her bike. This is a job interview, not a criminal trial.....why is this so difficult?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:America 2018 where you are guilty based on words and not evidence.

If a women up for confirmation have her career derailed because at Mardi Gras she flashed her boobs in my face?

Drugging someone for gang rape is not equivalent to flashing boobs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else find it interesting, and telling, that the only accusations that have come out have been from over 30 years ago? Nothing recent......

In other words.... unprovable either way.

Yes, it’s enormously telling. It’s very different from the Anita Hill allegations. It’s a reason why I think, outside of the liberal bubble, Americans are going to see this as the #metoo hit job that it is and turn more against Democratic identity politics nonsense.

[Anonymous]

This is why they wanted to get him confirmed so fast. It’s only going to get worse.

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Everyone should be very careful reading these statements. Avenetti is a smart lawyer and so wording is deliberate and important. The statement stops short of saying that she was raped by Kavanaugh and/or Judge. It also stops short of saying she witnessed them raping someoen elase.

What it does state is horrifying enough - that Judge and Kavanaugh were involved in attempts to groom women for sexual assault and appear to have been involved in a conspiracy to commit rape.

Please note - I am not disputing this woman, but it’s important not to mischaracterize what she is saying, mischaracterizations that are later shot down are the basis of undermining women’s claims, enabling people to say she is lying.

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I don't read this as saying she was raped *specifically by Kavanaugh or Judge*, but that they were at the parties and were part of the culture there. All of which is gross - but is not the same as saying Kavanaugh himself is a rapist. More than he was part of a disgusting and entitled group of boys, some of whom raped.

I worry about Avenetti. On the one hand, he seemed to do right by Stormy. But he does seem to be acting a little bit clever here. I believe this woman that girls were raped at these parties, and that Kavanaugh and Judge were at the parties where girls were raped. I worry that Avenetti is trying to imply Kavanaugh did the raping without coming out and saying so.

Stop worrying about Avenatti and start worrying about the country where a legitimate political party is willing to sit a lifetime justice on SC who happens to be complicit in gang-rape. Yes, Kavanaugh was complicit. This is disgusting - your gas-lighting is reprehensible.

Actually, this appears to me to be a political party willing to go to any lengths to derail a nominee because they fear the balance of SCOTUS.
Still, no evidence.

What's wrong with you. Lets us go with your argument. Based on statements by multiple people Kavanaugh there are possibility that

1. Kavanaugh is totally innocent
2. Kavanaugh is complicit to gang-rape, sexual assault and attempted rape, if not rapist worse.

There is no harm in denying the SCJ position to Kavanaugh, even if 1 is true, because as a country we have denied many eminent judges the same position for various reasons. The country does not owe him/Trump/GOP a SC position.

However, if there is any truth to 2, it would do enormous damage to the SC, along with enromous damage every girl (and boy) who might be feeling scared to report horrible incidences against powerful people.

There is a middle ground too, if the party in power is willing. If they want to they can open a FBI investigation to get to the borrom of these allegations by forcing everyone named in news report, testimony and statements to provide interview under oath. That way we do not sit a very tainted person on SC and yet do not refuse him a SC seat based on "mere" allegations.