08 Girls

Anonymous
Looks like we're in9 for a Mclean 08 vs FCV final in Mclean Premier cup this should be interesting..
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Looks like we're in9 for a Mclean 08 vs FCV final in Mclean Premier cup this should be interesting..


Nope.
Anonymous

Post 03/07/2021 05:57 Subject: Re:08 Girls
Looks like we're in9 for a Mclean 08 vs FCV final in Mclean Premier cup this should be interesting..

Actually - FCV 08 would up winning the championship (in the '07 elite division) and did not face McLean ECNL in the final
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Anonymous wrote:Arlington 08 GAL will struggle while their coach is on that sideline. My DD’s team played them last night and he was literally berating his players from warm up to the parking lot after losing to us. I almost felt bad for the girls then I laughed and didn’t! 🤣 At 12 years old most of the kids will simply shutdown with his antics. His coaching style is going to cause some players to regress and maybe even bail for other area clubs!

Anyway, getting ready to adjust our trophy cabinet again 😉


I don’t know what it is with girls soccer, but the ‘berating coach’ is so pervasive...And you’re right, most 12/13 year old girls quickly tire of that BS and will find a new team or new sport.


While I can't abide the unwarranted chest-thumping and trophy anticipation, what PP says about the Arlington 08 GAL is unfortunately true. We've been there since the beginning, and it is a good group of girls and parents. I admit that maybe some fellow parents got carried away with the colour team their daughter played for and with runaway wins in the Virginian in their u9 year, but they've fallen back to earth. There has been a little player movement, but there is a core group that has been together and is tight knit.

We actually had more coach stability than many teams with Alexis at the helm for three straight years. Last year was a big step back with the new coach and then the pandemic, but we had high hopes coming in that Mo would right the ship. Instead, Mo has constantly berated the girls, calling them out individually for plays that led to goals, or telling players on the bench that the only reason he is putting them in is because he doesn't want to have to deal with the emails from parents if he doesn't. I have heard him say two tepidly positive things all year, but everything else is yelling and dressing down players. They are playing tight and anxious because they don't want to be yelled it, and it shows. My daughter says that she often hopes passes don't come to her because "no matter what I do, I'm going to get yelled at by Mo." Many of the parents are fed up, but they are all worried that Mo will retaliate if they say anything. Many of the players left Friday night's game in tears, not because they lost, but because Mo was so mean towards them after the loss, belittling them for 15 straight minutes. After they tied Saturday's game to the eventual tournament winner, Mo went around his huddle and personally told each player what a poor performance they had had (save two players he was apparently "okay" with). I would have thought Arlington would have been a progressive club when it comes to coaching, but Mo's approach to coaching is two generations out of date. He makes no effort to know or understand his players or why 13-year old girls may not want their coach yelling at them for making a mistake in front of parents and teammates. I recognize that you have to coach -- you have to hold players accountable and have expectations. But when players are putting forth the effort and simply making mistakes that come with learning the game and transitioning to 11 v 11, publicly humiliating them is not productive. Even negative coaching would be tolerable if there we ever some praise and appreciation, but there is none. When they win they are told that they didn't win by enough, that they squandered so many opportunities, and that they aren't playing "GA" level soccer so he will need to replace many of them. There will be some of the Arlington girls that go to play for other clubs or choose to play for a lower team to escape Mo. It is an abusive, toxic culture and the club seems simply not to care...
Anonymous
when you are on the "top" team at a large club (almost doesn't matter which club, take your pick) you get coaches who may have more experience who are deemed "better" or "more qualified" - however

however many of these coaches do NOT want to develop the players they are handed - they expect that someone else did that for them

if their team isn't doing well they "crack the whip" rather than actually going back to the drawing board and fixing what needs to be fixed on the field.

these types of coaches also care a lot about their reputation, and a losing team tarnishes their reputation. so they hate to lose or underperform but aren't willing to actually WORK for it.

Sorry to name names here but coach TJW and his style of coaching is how it should be done.
Anonymous
don't think you'll find too much sympathy on these boards for all the teams Arl Red has had blowout wins against over the last few years
Anonymous
Maybe you Arlington parents are to blame. At the end of Alexis' run the team was not getting the results they had been getting. Then, you get "the new guy". My DD played for that coach at another club. He developed her into a strong player (my DD is in an older age group) and he did the same for her teammates. But, no. When the results didn't miraculously come, he was more or less pushed out the door. Now, you have Mo. He isn't getting the results either and apparently you don't like how he is handling the kids either. You aren't likely to get a perfect match for your coach, and it appears to me that perhaps coaching isn't your problem. Perhaps your problem is that the players just aren't as great as you think they are. If you all keep playing coach roulette, you are going to have a situation where nobody even wants to coach those girls, which is a shame because there is obviously some potential there.
Instead of posting on here, why don't you parents get together and request a conversation with Mo? He knows what he is doing and so do you. He may say that the team is seriously lacking in some areas and if he says that he is right. You on the other hand can then advocate for your children. One thing for sure though: Mo isn't going anywhere. You aren't gonna make him disappear, so you had better find a way to deal with that reality.
Anonymous
Welcome to U13 and up. Totally different than U12 and younger
Anonymous
Heard that BRYC is looking for new players
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you Arlington parents are to blame. At the end of Alexis' run the team was not getting the results they had been getting. Then, you get "the new guy". My DD played for that coach at another club. He developed her into a strong player (my DD is in an older age group) and he did the same for her teammates. But, no. When the results didn't miraculously come, he was more or less pushed out the door. Now, you have Mo. He isn't getting the results either and apparently you don't like how he is handling the kids either. You aren't likely to get a perfect match for your coach, and it appears to me that perhaps coaching isn't your problem. Perhaps your problem is that the players just aren't as great as you think they are. If you all keep playing coach roulette, you are going to have a situation where nobody even wants to coach those girls, which is a shame because there is obviously some potential there.
Instead of posting on here, why don't you parents get together and request a conversation with Mo? He knows what he is doing and so do you. He may say that the team is seriously lacking in some areas and if he says that he is right. You on the other hand can then advocate for your children. One thing for sure though: Mo isn't going anywhere. You aren't gonna make him disappear, so you had better find a way to deal with that reality.


I agree. My daughter had Mo for a few years. Year 1, there were many tears after practices and games. Year 2, it got better. I’m not sure if it was because he was easier on her, or if she just got used to it. She became a better player under him and I remember him taking her aside after a game and telling her that he was tough on her because he wanted her to improve, because he saw that she had talent. It was an important moment for her and his rare praise meant a lot.
You aren’t going to find many warm and fuzzy coaches after U13. They are going to call your kid out if they make a mistake. The good ones will ask what they could have done instead.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Welcome to U13 and up. Totally different than U12 and younger


Right if your team was one of those with big kids the wins were pretty easy in the small field games.
Anonymous
Those Arlington players should talk to Metro United coaches. It sounds like it would be a really good fit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Maybe you Arlington parents are to blame. At the end of Alexis' run the team was not getting the results they had been getting. Then, you get "the new guy". My DD played for that coach at another club. He developed her into a strong player (my DD is in an older age group) and he did the same for her teammates. But, no. When the results didn't miraculously come, he was more or less pushed out the door. Now, you have Mo. He isn't getting the results either and apparently you don't like how he is handling the kids either. You aren't likely to get a perfect match for your coach, and it appears to me that perhaps coaching isn't your problem. Perhaps your problem is that the players just aren't as great as you think they are. If you all keep playing coach roulette, you are going to have a situation where nobody even wants to coach those girls, which is a shame because there is obviously some potential there.
Instead of posting on here, why don't you parents get together and request a conversation with Mo? He knows what he is doing and so do you. He may say that the team is seriously lacking in some areas and if he says that he is right. You on the other hand can then advocate for your children. One thing for sure though: Mo isn't going anywhere. You aren't gonna make him disappear, so you had better find a way to deal with that reality.


“The new guy” wasn’t pushed out, he was never in the running. When the team moved to DA/GA the team was going to get one of the existing DA/Ga coaches. He was pretty open with the team he had no desire to do DA/GA given his job and his family.
Anonymous
Glad to hear that the new guy wasn't pushed out. He was a bit quirky, but he was great for my DD. Still he was called a lousy coach and now you all are complaining about the "new" new guy in Mo. The bottom line is that your team is the problem, and two coaches with solid resumes have tried to fix it and it seems like you don't like either way. I can't say that I have seen the team play that much, but I have on occasion and back when they were younger you had a girl that could just flat outrun everyone. It is hard to see the deficiencies in a team when you have a player like that and you always win. I saw you play recently and it looked rough. Give the coaches a chance to fix it. If you have an issue, talk to the coach not this silly forum. You know Mo will get word of this- how do you think that will go over?
Anonymous
If you think Mo is bad don't come to McLean. Your delicate flower won't like being on a 24 player roster where the goal is to recruit player 25 and you have to get outside training to keep from getting bumped to the bench
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