Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear: I don't really care how much Kavanaugh drank in the early 80s. I don't care whether or not he puked it up, threw ice, or said crass things about girls then either.

The ONLY reason it was even brought up in the hearing, was to try and imply that Kavanaugh could have gotten blackout drunk and assault Ford. It was ruse to sow doubt, and to try and get him to admit he was a choir boy, which he didn't do.

Ford, on the other hand, got to tell her story in a formal hearing in front of the whole world, was questioned by an expert in the field, and determined to not have enough detail or information to be deemed credible in her accusations against Kavanaugh.

Meanwhile, highly laughable individuals have come forward to take their turn at bat, one admitting she was wholly drunk and could not be sure herself, and the other with a sketchy history of lies, who backtracked on her own story.

And the latest is more of the same. And is making Democrats seem completely unhinged.

Let me repeat: I don't give one rat's a$$ about his high school years. Not one iota.

I don't care about his high school activities. None of it is disqualifying.

Lying about his high school activities in 2018 IS disqualifying.

He hasn’t lied about his HS activities.
But, you will believe he has because you haven’t believed him from the start.

There are 29 verified lies. You may choose to believe his definition of Boof, but as a male who grew up in the same circles here, he is lying. Same with the other terms. Same with the other lies. He has violated the code of conduct for judges with his lack of candor.

Verified lies? According to whom? You have no idea what any of the terms referred to in the minds of Kavanaugh and his friends. Were you friends with Kavanaugh? Are you even the same age as he?
You are reaching and you know it. It is no longer about any of the allegations - because they are quickly falling apart. You are looking for ANYTHING to derail the nominee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting water cooler talk in my office today. 4 co-workers. All DMV professionals. Aged 30-45. 2 white women, 1 white male, one AA male. One grew up in the DMV and went through FCPS. One from the South. One from the Midwest. some public HS, some private. Ect.

We all believe Ford, because we all knew the Bart O’Kavanaughs in our HS classes. The members of the football/basketball teams who hosted the keggers and did whatever it took to get under the cheerleaders’ skirts. They drank underage, and drove underage. In fact, one of the Bart’s in my high school was driving drunk and killed a cheerleader in an car accident my freshman year. He ended up in jail. And usually didn’t let little things like lack of consent stop them if they found themselves alone in a car with a girl. Three of us went to colleges where bad things happened at DKE parties. At my college, they were kicked off campus a couple years after I graduated.

The point is that we now literally have 700 pages of discussion about this for a reason. Yes, SCOTUS is important. And yes, this has become the train wreck you can’t look away from. But for many of us, what Ford is saying just rings true. We saw it happen in our high schools. We heard the whispers about the girls Monday mornings. We know girls who were date raped and became the talk of the school. We know that, for the most part, the boys went on to have pretty wives and nice UMC lives, occasionally punctuated by rehab stints. Then again, it is not uncommon for them to cheat on those women.

So now, you have two groups of people. Those who never thought it was fair that the Bart O’Kavanughs of the world were so untouchable and could get way with anything. And women especially are angry that took advantage of us, and then made jokes about the xxx alumni in the high school yearbook. We want Kavanugh voted down because we want it to be clear that what happened to us was not okay, and as a country we have come to realize that. We know that if Kavanaugh is seated, it says to the 2018 high school aged Bart O’Kavanaughs that they can take advantage of our daughters.

And I would imagine that it is dawning on all the Bart O’Kavanaughs out there that #MeToo could be coming for them.

This is so not about who did what to whom in the 1980s in Bethesda. Or a bar fights or what a Devils Triangle is. Or even liberals and conservatives. It’s about power. The power of the wealthy and men to get what they want at the expense of others. The power of women to have an equal say. In sex, in politics, at home, and in high school.

I am so over Ford and Brett and Sqi and PJ and why was the music already on. But I care 700 pages of DCUM about this because I want the Bart O’Kavanaugh of my DD’s high school to think twice before he touching my DD without her consent.

What you're effectively saying that despite believing Ford it also doesn't really matter whether or not Brett Kavanaugh assaulted her or not. What truly and seriously matters here is that *someone* of the typecast mold of Brett Kavanaugh circa the early 1980s is punished for all the other attacks and assaults that happened to all the other women.

Your post is a perfect example of why this has blown way beyond a simple he/she said story and why people continue to conveniently ignore the so many holes in Ford's story and testimony or that it could be reinterpreted so differently using the same basic information. You have simply swapped Ford for the other women you knew who were sexually assaulted and you are seeking Kavanaugh to be punished, not for what he allegedly did to Ford, but for those other victims. The truth of what happened that night doesn't matter here (if we were sincerely seeking the truth, the reaction to Ford would be very different). You say you believed Ford, but it's not because of her testimony, it's because you heard of similar sexual assaults happening elsewhere at the time and which went unreported or unresolved. You are simply seeking vengeance and Brett Kavanaugh must be the sacrificial victim.

Of course I knew assholes like Brett Kavanaugh when he was a teenager. I didn't like them. I especially did not like them. I'm very well aware that there have been scores of attacks of varying degrees on women and which were hushed up and hidden away. But I draw the line at punishing Brett Kavanaugh as a sacrificial victim for things he did not do. For that's not right. Two wrongs don't make a right. I view this matter solely as the situation between him and Ford and unfortunately it's too inconclusive and too weak to convincingly side with Ford. I don't wish to see Kavanaugh on the court, but I cannot also justify declaring him guilty based on what Ford told us and what we know of the circumstances.

Well, you don't have to convict him -- though convictions have been sustained, probably by Kavanaugh himself, on less evidence. Not getting a seat on the Supreme Court isn't being "sacrificed." The fact is, in the first place, Ford seems more credible than Kavanaugh. Secondly, his judicial temperament is lacking. But, also, PP brings up a good point -- he has become symbolic of a type of person that many Americans, perhaps even most Americans, can't trust to represent them. For a variety of reasons, some fair, some perhaps not, he is symbolic of arrogant cruelty that gets rewarded, faces no consequences, and makes society worse. The angry, entitled bully who mocks others and sometimes hurts them to earn the laughing approval of his friends. Having become that, we damage the United States if we give him a lifetime job on a court that's called upon to decide on issues of the utmost importance -- some of them deeply personal. The Court's decisions will all be tainted, unnecessarily. There are plenty of conservative jurists who don't carry this kind of baggage. Alito, Roberts, and Gorsuch have all been passed through recently without raising these sorts of flags. Thomas was passed through with 57 Democrats in the Senate, replacing Thurgood Marshall. So the complaints that this will happen to any conservative nominee are simply unfounded.

[Anonymous]

Ford may be in legal trouble now. SJC received a letter from her ex contradicting her sworn testimony. Chairman Grassley has asked her lawyers to provide her polygraph report and therapist records. She could be referred to an investigation for perjury.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:6:39: Desperation.
You seriously think that this is something posted by someone who, at the time, was serving as an appellate judge?

What I have discovered from this whole sorry story is just how gullible and desperate some of you are and how you make connections to events and terms where no connection exists.

Yes. Yes, I do believe it was posted by a sitting appellate judge. Hopefully an FBI agent can trace its origin. Why are you so sure it isn't? The name is the same. The sex act described is the very sex act that Kavanaugh describes in his yearbook. Or are you so gullible that you think he was telling the truth that "BOOFING" was farting?



Drinking alcohol from another person's anus is apparently a thing. He did this. He enshrined the activity in his yearbook. Yearbook reference+the xoxohth post+the name "Bart O'Kavanaugh=coincidence? And I'm gullible?

ok.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting water cooler talk in my office today. 4 co-workers. All DMV professionals. Aged 30-45. 2 white women, 1 white male, one AA male. One grew up in the DMV and went through FCPS. One from the South. One from the Midwest. some public HS, some private. Ect.

We all believe Ford, because we all knew the Bart O’Kavanaughs in our HS classes. The members of the football/basketball teams who hosted the keggers and did whatever it took to get under the cheerleaders’ skirts. They drank underage, and drove underage. In fact, one of the Bart’s in my high school was driving drunk and killed a cheerleader in an car accident my freshman year. He ended up in jail. And usually didn’t let little things like lack of consent stop them if they found themselves alone in a car with a girl. Three of us went to colleges where bad things happened at DKE parties. At my college, they were kicked off campus a couple years after I graduated.

The point is that we now literally have 700 pages of discussion about this for a reason. Yes, SCOTUS is important. And yes, this has become the train wreck you can’t look away from. But for many of us, what Ford is saying just rings true. We saw it happen in our high schools. We heard the whispers about the girls Monday mornings. We know girls who were date raped and became the talk of the school. We know that, for the most part, the boys went on to have pretty wives and nice UMC lives, occasionally punctuated by rehab stints. Then again, it is not uncommon for them to cheat on those women.

So now, you have two groups of people. Those who never thought it was fair that the Bart O’Kavanughs of the world were so untouchable and could get way with anything. And women especially are angry that took advantage of us, and then made jokes about the xxx alumni in the high school yearbook. We want Kavanugh voted down because we want it to be clear that what happened to us was not okay, and as a country we have come to realize that. We know that if Kavanaugh is seated, it says to the 2018 high school aged Bart O’Kavanaughs that they can take advantage of our daughters.

And I would imagine that it is dawning on all the Bart O’Kavanaughs out there that #MeToo could be coming for them.

This is so not about who did what to whom in the 1980s in Bethesda. Or a bar fights or what a Devils Triangle is. Or even liberals and conservatives. It’s about power. The power of the wealthy and men to get what they want at the expense of others. The power of women to have an equal say. In sex, in politics, at home, and in high school.

I am so over Ford and Brett and Sqi and PJ and why was the music already on. But I care 700 pages of DCUM about this because I want the Bart O’Kavanaugh of my DD’s high school to think twice before he touching my DD without her consent.

What you're effectively saying that despite believing Ford it also doesn't really matter whether or not Brett Kavanaugh assaulted her or not. What truly and seriously matters here is that *someone* of the typecast mold of Brett Kavanaugh circa the early 1980s is punished for all the other attacks and assaults that happened to all the other women.

Your post is a perfect example of why this has blown way beyond a simple he/she said story and why people continue to conveniently ignore the so many holes in Ford's story and testimony or that it could be reinterpreted so differently using the same basic information. You have simply swapped Ford for the other women you knew who were sexually assaulted and you are seeking Kavanaugh to be punished, not for what he allegedly did to Ford, but for those other victims. The truth of what happened that night doesn't matter here (if we were sincerely seeking the truth, the reaction to Ford would be very different). You say you believed Ford, but it's not because of her testimony, it's because you heard of similar sexual assaults happening elsewhere at the time and which went unreported or unresolved. You are simply seeking vengeance and Brett Kavanaugh must be the sacrificial victim.

Of course I knew assholes like Brett Kavanaugh when he was a teenager. I didn't like them. I especially did not like them. I'm very well aware that there have been scores of attacks of varying degrees on women and which were hushed up and hidden away. But I draw the line at punishing Brett Kavanaugh as a sacrificial victim for things he did not do. For that's not right. Two wrongs don't make a right. I view this matter solely as the situation between him and Ford and unfortunately it's too inconclusive and too weak to convincingly side with Ford. I don't wish to see Kavanaugh on the court, but I cannot also justify declaring him guilty based on what Ford told us and what we know of the circumstances.

Well, you don't have to convict him -- though convictions have been sustained, probably by Kavanaugh himself, on less evidence. Not getting a seat on the Supreme Court isn't being "sacrificed." The fact is, in the first place, Ford seems more credible than Kavanaugh. Secondly, his judicial temperament is lacking. But, also, PP brings up a good point -- he has become symbolic of a type of person that many Americans, perhaps even most Americans, can't trust to represent them. For a variety of reasons, some fair, some perhaps not, he is symbolic of arrogant cruelty that gets rewarded, faces no consequences, and makes society worse. The angry, entitled bully who mocks others and sometimes hurts them to earn the laughing approval of his friends. Having become that, we damage the United States if we give him a lifetime job on a court that's called upon to decide on issues of the utmost importance -- some of them deeply personal. The Court's decisions will all be tainted, unnecessarily. There are plenty of conservative jurists who don't carry this kind of baggage. Alito, Roberts, and Gorsuch have all been passed through recently without raising these sorts of flags. Thomas was passed through with 57 Democrats in the Senate, replacing Thurgood Marshall. So the complaints that this will happen to any conservative nominee are simply unfounded.

You have convicted him. Based on NO EVIDENCE. NO CORROBORATION.
Comparing this nomination process to that of any justices prior is just ridiculous. This is the new Left. Go to ANY lengths to ensure that this nominee is derailed - no matter the cost. Confront Senators wherever you can find them. Harass them. Spread rumors. Scrutinize anything Kavanaugh did in his youth. Forget his impeccable record as an adult.
This process has been a total $hitshow. And, it started when Feinstein decided to withhold the letter she received. It has gone downhill from there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ford may be in legal trouble now. SJC received a letter from her ex contradicting her sworn testimony. Chairman Grassley has asked her lawyers to provide her polygraph report and therapist records. She could be referred to an investigation for perjury.

She will have to wait until they finish with Brett’s perjury.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting water cooler talk in my office today. 4 co-workers. All DMV professionals. Aged 30-45. 2 white women, 1 white male, one AA male. One grew up in the DMV and went through FCPS. One from the South. One from the Midwest. some public HS, some private. Ect.

We all believe Ford, because we all knew the Bart O’Kavanaughs in our HS classes. The members of the football/basketball teams who hosted the keggers and did whatever it took to get under the cheerleaders’ skirts. They drank underage, and drove underage. In fact, one of the Bart’s in my high school was driving drunk and killed a cheerleader in an car accident my freshman year. He ended up in jail. And usually didn’t let little things like lack of consent stop them if they found themselves alone in a car with a girl. Three of us went to colleges where bad things happened at DKE parties. At my college, they were kicked off campus a couple years after I graduated.

The point is that we now literally have 700 pages of discussion about this for a reason. Yes, SCOTUS is important. And yes, this has become the train wreck you can’t look away from. But for many of us, what Ford is saying just rings true. We saw it happen in our high schools. We heard the whispers about the girls Monday mornings. We know girls who were date raped and became the talk of the school. We know that, for the most part, the boys went on to have pretty wives and nice UMC lives, occasionally punctuated by rehab stints. Then again, it is not uncommon for them to cheat on those women.

So now, you have two groups of people. Those who never thought it was fair that the Bart O’Kavanughs of the world were so untouchable and could get way with anything. And women especially are angry that took advantage of us, and then made jokes about the xxx alumni in the high school yearbook. We want Kavanugh voted down because we want it to be clear that what happened to us was not okay, and as a country we have come to realize that. We know that if Kavanaugh is seated, it says to the 2018 high school aged Bart O’Kavanaughs that they can take advantage of our daughters.

And I would imagine that it is dawning on all the Bart O’Kavanaughs out there that #MeToo could be coming for them.

This is so not about who did what to whom in the 1980s in Bethesda. Or a bar fights or what a Devils Triangle is. Or even liberals and conservatives. It’s about power. The power of the wealthy and men to get what they want at the expense of others. The power of women to have an equal say. In sex, in politics, at home, and in high school.

I am so over Ford and Brett and Sqi and PJ and why was the music already on. But I care 700 pages of DCUM about this because I want the Bart O’Kavanaugh of my DD’s high school to think twice before he touching my DD without her consent.

What you're effectively saying that despite believing Ford it also doesn't really matter whether or not Brett Kavanaugh assaulted her or not. What truly and seriously matters here is that *someone* of the typecast mold of Brett Kavanaugh circa the early 1980s is punished for all the other attacks and assaults that happened to all the other women.

Your post is a perfect example of why this has blown way beyond a simple he/she said story and why people continue to conveniently ignore the so many holes in Ford's story and testimony or that it could be reinterpreted so differently using the same basic information. You have simply swapped Ford for the other women you knew who were sexually assaulted and you are seeking Kavanaugh to be punished, not for what he allegedly did to Ford, but for those other victims. The truth of what happened that night doesn't matter here (if we were sincerely seeking the truth, the reaction to Ford would be very different). You say you believed Ford, but it's not because of her testimony, it's because you heard of similar sexual assaults happening elsewhere at the time and which went unreported or unresolved. You are simply seeking vengeance and Brett Kavanaugh must be the sacrificial victim.

Of course I knew assholes like Brett Kavanaugh when he was a teenager. I didn't like them. I especially did not like them. I'm very well aware that there have been scores of attacks of varying degrees on women and which were hushed up and hidden away. But I draw the line at punishing Brett Kavanaugh as a sacrificial victim for things he did not do. For that's not right. Two wrongs don't make a right. I view this matter solely as the situation between him and Ford and unfortunately it's too inconclusive and too weak to convincingly side with Ford. I don't wish to see Kavanaugh on the court, but I cannot also justify declaring him guilty based on what Ford told us and what we know of the circumstances.

It’s called Occam’a Razor. Either Ford is lying, which means back in 2012 or earlier she was such a political partisan that she started plotting this whole thing, found out there was a conservative judge around her age who grew up in Bethesda like she did did some research that he was a heavy drinker and had a best buddy named Mark JUdge who was also a hard partier, took a chance that BK would someday be nominated to SCOTUS, and started telling lies about him so that she would have a story for when someday she might be called to testify against him. Or she is telling the truth.

I choose the latter scenario because it involves less mental pretzel-twisting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:6:39: Desperation.
You seriously think that this is something posted by someone who, at the time, was serving as an appellate judge?

What I have discovered from this whole sorry story is just how gullible and desperate some of you are and how you make connections to events and terms where no connection exists.

Yes. Yes, I do believe it was posted by a sitting appellate judge. Hopefully an FBI agent can trace its origin. Why are you so sure it isn't? The name is the same. The sex act described is the very sex act that Kavanaugh describes in his yearbook. Or are you so gullible that you think he was telling the truth that "BOOFING" was farting?



Drinking alcohol from another person's anus is apparently a thing. He did this. He enshrined the activity in his yearbook. Yearbook reference+the xoxohth post+the name "Bart O'Kavanaugh=coincidence? And I'm gullible?

ok.

I hope the FBI investigates it. Because, they will find it was posted by some teenager in his mom’s basement. And then we can all mock those of you who are grasping at anything. And, it was probably entered recently - the site was manipulated to make it appear as if it was entered in 2012
But, I doubt they will because it is a ridiculous thought.
Think about this..........Why would he use a screen name that could be so easily traced back to him if he did do it (which he didn’t). Use some critical reasoning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Having conveniently developed amnesia that not too long ago, they supported a candidate who didn't pay his taxes, had multiple allegations of sexual assault against him and who insulted heads of state around the world in a way that embarassed our great nation.

I’m a republican, and DJT embarrasses me. I’m glad that a career politician is not in office, but I’m sad it’s he. And that is one of the differences between DJT and many other accused, both R and D, is that he was not an elected official at the time, but exactly as he lived his life as a wealthy playboy. I have not seen any sexual allegations or affairs which he has currently engaged since he has become president.

As it stands, one of the reasons I voted for him is exactly this issue: SCOTUS appointments. He has done an excellent job. Judge Kavanaugh has a 12 year record of being an outstanding judge and an exceptional, world class legal scholar - all his opinions are available for public inspection.

The last minute allegations come across exactly as Kavanaugh characterized them: a political hit job. On that principle alone he should be confirmed, and the confirmation process re-examined. Otherwise, get ready when any nominee of the majority is nominated to see more slimy tactics. I’m assuming that the D’s will be majority this next election cycle.

The R’s now look classy as to how they handled Merrick Garland. Even though it was manipulative to instigate procedural delays, they not destroy his character. This is beyond the pale.

So it doesn’t matter if the allegations are true. It doesn’t matter if he perjured and greatly misrepresented himself. It doesn’t matter that his judicial behavior has been questionable (and called out by multiple groups).

The ONLY thing that matters to you is getting back at the Ds for the TIMING of the allegations (not the content).

Got it. Spiteful to the end.

You are twisting my words.

First, I don’t believe the allegations, and I don’t believe in coincidences. I would have to believe accidentally the letter was leaked almost 6 weeks after Democrats had it and after having already extensively interviewed Kavanaugh, privately interviewed Kavanaugh, where Dr. Ford’s wishes for anonymity might have been honored. Do you believe in that coincidence?

Secondly, I never said I wanted to ‘get back at D’s.’ You said that. I said this process should be re-examined and defined, no matter who is in power, R or D. Do you think it should stand as it is? I am suggesting if it is not reformed, it could be another circus, when D’s may have a nominee. I am explaining that the process is flawed. What is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ford may be in legal trouble now. SJC received a letter from her ex contradicting her sworn testimony. Chairman Grassley has asked her lawyers to provide her polygraph report and therapist records. She could be referred to an investigation for perjury.

Treachery by the SJC is becoming classic by now. First they referred Christopher Steele for prosecution because he tried to warn them about Trump, now they're going after Dr. Ford because she tried to warn them about Kavanaugh.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Having conveniently developed amnesia that not too long ago, they supported a candidate who didn't pay his taxes, had multiple allegations of sexual assault against him and who insulted heads of state around the world in a way that embarassed our great nation.

I’m a republican, and DJT embarrasses me. I’m glad that a career politician is not in office, but I’m sad it’s he. And that is one of the differences between DJT and many other accused, both R and D, is that he was not an elected official at the time, but exactly as he lived his life as a wealthy playboy. I have not seen any sexual allegations or affairs which he has currently engaged since he has become president.

As it stands, one of the reasons I voted for him is exactly this issue: SCOTUS appointments. He has done an excellent job. Judge Kavanaugh has a 12 year record of being an outstanding judge and an exceptional, world class legal scholar - all his opinions are available for public inspection.

The last minute allegations come across exactly as Kavanaugh characterized them: a political hit job. On that principle alone he should be confirmed, and the confirmation process re-examined. Otherwise, get ready when any nominee of the majority is nominated to see more slimy tactics. I’m assuming that the D’s will be majority this next election cycle.

The R’s now look classy as to how they handled Merrick Garland. Even though it was manipulative to instigate procedural delays, they not destroy his character. This is beyond the pale.

So it doesn’t matter if the allegations are true. It doesn’t matter if he perjured and greatly misrepresented himself. It doesn’t matter that his judicial behavior has been questionable (and called out by multiple groups).

The ONLY thing that matters to you is getting back at the Ds for the TIMING of the allegations (not the content).

Got it. Spiteful to the end.

Not np. Her allegations are NOT true, this is a hit job on a white man, period. Throw Republican or Democrat around all you want, this is about men, specifically white men. She is troubled, goodness is she troubled, but this is not true. She has already lied in her story, either through her representatives or attorney, she has no credibility. The allegations are not true. Sorry.

But PP doesn’t even care if the allegations are true or not. She just wants to confirm him to spite the Ds.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bart O'Kavanaugh was his nom de plume on Bondage and Domination sites. Kavanaugh is into restraining women and forcing them to commit sex acts. There is evidence on the internet and elsewhere. If I could find it, the FBI will find it.

FFS. You people should just jump off the ledge already. You’ve been holding on for a while, time to take the plunge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting water cooler talk in my office today. 4 co-workers. All DMV professionals. Aged 30-45. 2 white women, 1 white male, one AA male. One grew up in the DMV and went through FCPS. One from the South. One from the Midwest. some public HS, some private. Ect.

We all believe Ford, because we all knew the Bart O’Kavanaughs in our HS classes. The members of the football/basketball teams who hosted the keggers and did whatever it took to get under the cheerleaders’ skirts. They drank underage, and drove underage. In fact, one of the Bart’s in my high school was driving drunk and killed a cheerleader in an car accident my freshman year. He ended up in jail. And usually didn’t let little things like lack of consent stop them if they found themselves alone in a car with a girl. Three of us went to colleges where bad things happened at DKE parties. At my college, they were kicked off campus a couple years after I graduated.

The point is that we now literally have 700 pages of discussion about this for a reason. Yes, SCOTUS is important. And yes, this has become the train wreck you can’t look away from. But for many of us, what Ford is saying just rings true. We saw it happen in our high schools. We heard the whispers about the girls Monday mornings. We know girls who were date raped and became the talk of the school. We know that, for the most part, the boys went on to have pretty wives and nice UMC lives, occasionally punctuated by rehab stints. Then again, it is not uncommon for them to cheat on those women.

So now, you have two groups of people. Those who never thought it was fair that the Bart O’Kavanughs of the world were so untouchable and could get way with anything. And women especially are angry that took advantage of us, and then made jokes about the xxx alumni in the high school yearbook. We want Kavanugh voted down because we want it to be clear that what happened to us was not okay, and as a country we have come to realize that. We know that if Kavanaugh is seated, it says to the 2018 high school aged Bart O’Kavanaughs that they can take advantage of our daughters.

And I would imagine that it is dawning on all the Bart O’Kavanaughs out there that #MeToo could be coming for them.

This is so not about who did what to whom in the 1980s in Bethesda. Or a bar fights or what a Devils Triangle is. Or even liberals and conservatives. It’s about power. The power of the wealthy and men to get what they want at the expense of others. The power of women to have an equal say. In sex, in politics, at home, and in high school.

I am so over Ford and Brett and Sqi and PJ and why was the music already on. But I care 700 pages of DCUM about this because I want the Bart O’Kavanaugh of my DD’s high school to think twice before he touching my DD without her consent.

What you're effectively saying that despite believing Ford it also doesn't really matter whether or not Brett Kavanaugh assaulted her or not. What truly and seriously matters here is that *someone* of the typecast mold of Brett Kavanaugh circa the early 1980s is punished for all the other attacks and assaults that happened to all the other women.

Your post is a perfect example of why this has blown way beyond a simple he/she said story and why people continue to conveniently ignore the so many holes in Ford's story and testimony or that it could be reinterpreted so differently using the same basic information. You have simply swapped Ford for the other women you knew who were sexually assaulted and you are seeking Kavanaugh to be punished, not for what he allegedly did to Ford, but for those other victims. The truth of what happened that night doesn't matter here (if we were sincerely seeking the truth, the reaction to Ford would be very different). You say you believed Ford, but it's not because of her testimony, it's because you heard of similar sexual assaults happening elsewhere at the time and which went unreported or unresolved. You are simply seeking vengeance and Brett Kavanaugh must be the sacrificial victim.

Of course I knew assholes like Brett Kavanaugh when he was a teenager. I didn't like them. I especially did not like them. I'm very well aware that there have been scores of attacks of varying degrees on women and which were hushed up and hidden away. But I draw the line at punishing Brett Kavanaugh as a sacrificial victim for things he did not do. For that's not right. Two wrongs don't make a right. I view this matter solely as the situation between him and Ford and unfortunately it's too inconclusive and too weak to convincingly side with Ford. I don't wish to see Kavanaugh on the court, but I cannot also justify declaring him guilty based on what Ford told us and what we know of the circumstances.

It’s called Occam’a Razor. Either Ford is lying, which means back in 2012 or earlier she was such a political partisan that she started plotting this whole thing, found out there was a conservative judge around her age who grew up in Bethesda like she did did some research that he was a heavy drinker and had a best buddy named Mark JUdge who was also a hard partier, took a chance that BK would someday be nominated to SCOTUS, and started telling lies about him so that she would have a story for when someday she might be called to testify against him. Or she is telling the truth.

I choose the latter scenario because it involves less mental pretzel-twisting.

And, we have no evidence that she identified Kavanaugh back in 2012. Except, presumably, her husband’s words. Nothing in the therapy notes. Nothing in written form.
Convenient.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Having conveniently developed amnesia that not too long ago, they supported a candidate who didn't pay his taxes, had multiple allegations of sexual assault against him and who insulted heads of state around the world in a way that embarassed our great nation.

I’m a republican, and DJT embarrasses me. I’m glad that a career politician is not in office, but I’m sad it’s he. And that is one of the differences between DJT and many other accused, both R and D, is that he was not an elected official at the time, but exactly as he lived his life as a wealthy playboy. I have not seen any sexual allegations or affairs which he has currently engaged since he has become president.

As it stands, one of the reasons I voted for him is exactly this issue: SCOTUS appointments. He has done an excellent job. Judge Kavanaugh has a 12 year record of being an outstanding judge and an exceptional, world class legal scholar - all his opinions are available for public inspection.

The last minute allegations come across exactly as Kavanaugh characterized them: a political hit job. On that principle alone he should be confirmed, and the confirmation process re-examined. Otherwise, get ready when any nominee of the majority is nominated to see more slimy tactics. I’m assuming that the D’s will be majority this next election cycle.

The R’s now look classy as to how they handled Merrick Garland. Even though it was manipulative to instigate procedural delays, they not destroy his character. This is beyond the pale.

So it doesn’t matter if the allegations are true. It doesn’t matter if he perjured and greatly misrepresented himself. It doesn’t matter that his judicial behavior has been questionable (and called out by multiple groups).

The ONLY thing that matters to you is getting back at the Ds for the TIMING of the allegations (not the content).

Got it. Spiteful to the end.

You are twisting my words.

First, I don’t believe the allegations, and I don’t believe in coincidences. I would have to believe accidentally the letter was leaked almost 6 weeks after Democrats had it and after having already extensively interviewed Kavanaugh, privately interviewed Kavanaugh, where Dr. Ford’s wishes for anonymity might have been honored. Do you believe in that coincidence?

Secondly, I never said I wanted to ‘get back at D’s.’ You said that. I said this process should be re-examined and defined, no matter who is in power, R or D. Do you think it should stand as it is? I am suggesting if it is not reformed, it could be another circus, when D’s may have a nominee. I am explaining that the process is flawed. What is wrong with you?

Your words are your words:
“On that principle alone he should be confirmed”

Did you mean what you wrote or not?

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Anonymous wrote:Let me be clear: I don't really care how much Kavanaugh drank in the early 80s. I don't care whether or not he puked it up, threw ice, or said crass things about girls then either.

The ONLY reason it was even brought up in the hearing, was to try and imply that Kavanaugh could have gotten blackout drunk and assault Ford. It was ruse to sow doubt, and to try and get him to admit he was a choir boy, which he didn't do.

Ford, on the other hand, got to tell her story in a formal hearing in front of the whole world, was questioned by an expert in the field, and determined to not have enough detail or information to be deemed credible in her accusations against Kavanaugh.

Meanwhile, highly laughable individuals have come forward to take their turn at bat, one admitting she was wholly drunk and could not be sure herself, and the other with a sketchy history of lies, who backtracked on her own story.

And the latest is more of the same. And is making Democrats seem completely unhinged.

Let me repeat: I don't give one rat's a$$ about his high school years. Not one iota.

You must be crestfallen that Kavanaugh chose to lie about something so insignificant.

Exactly. Nobody cares about how much he drank in high school. But he lied about it anyway. Which makes it significant.

THIS