UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Anonymous wrote:Random hit.

Power move

Attempt to destabilize

Test case to see how nuts social media and mass media follows it

Test case if America will cannibalize itself with chaos and internal theories.

Deemed a success thus far.

I’m skeptical because I don’t find the passing of a ceo to be destabilizing.

+1 and America was already cannibalizing itself — if anything, this event united the country, as people across the political spectrum have had dreadful encounters with insurers.

That’s a good way of putting it. No one love health insurance companies.

That is about the only thing conservatives and liberals can agree on! I was talking about this with my “Fox News is not conservative enough” (really) aunt and uncle and their reaction was “the CEO had it coming.” Outside truly bleeding hearts, his fellow industry vultures and the man’s family and friends nobody is anything but gleeful or indifferent about the murder.

Agree. Very few people on either side are bothered by this. It’s truly bipartisan. At best, the vase majority of ordinary people on the right or left are indifferent.

If Americans are indifferent when literal children are gunned down in schools, why would anyone care about a CEO? This is what the people in power want- indifference.

It's not indifference that someone was killed. It's indifference that a a greedy scumbag was killed, and that (perhaps) a killer would get away with it, because karma. Because nothing of value was lost. Just like many other CEO's think when regular people suffer.

I don't feel indifferent. Murder is wrong. He should not have shot Brian Thompson.

Yes, murder is wrong.

But when it comes to killing someone complicit and responsible for the suffering and deaths of so many... well that's where the indifference comes from. I certainly don't feel bad for Thompson.

Would anyone feel bad if Hitler had been murdered?

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile, NYC looking for the best lookalike:

"NYC: People began to arrive to the CEO Shooter lookalike competition in Washington Square Park in NYC"

https://x.com/ScooterCasterNY/status/1865459736151245251

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Anonymous wrote:The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information on the suspect and have Border Patrol looking for this guy.

He might actually get away with this. There are way less cameras in the world than I thought and I thought police work was more advanced than this.

I've had the opposite reaction. I've been finding the number of cameras, and the speed at which they've been able to go through them, to be incredibly disconcerting.

agree. They show the same outfit exiting the bus station but never leaving it. always the side view bc he knows the cameras are there. I'm not sure he ever left NYC

I read they’d never seen him exiting the bus station.

Can you share photos?

The last pp is correct. He went into the bus station. He didn't exit the bus station. Therefore, police have assumed he boarded a bus that left NYC.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Random hit.

Power move

Attempt to destabilize

Test case to see how nuts social media and mass media follows it

Test case if America will cannibalize itself with chaos and internal theories.

Deemed a success thus far.

I’m skeptical because I don’t find the passing of a ceo to be destabilizing.

+1 and America was already cannibalizing itself — if anything, this event united the country, as people across the political spectrum have had dreadful encounters with insurers.

That’s a good way of putting it. No one love health insurance companies.

That is about the only thing conservatives and liberals can agree on! I was talking about this with my “Fox News is not conservative enough” (really) aunt and uncle and their reaction was “the CEO had it coming.” Outside truly bleeding hearts, his fellow industry vultures and the man’s family and friends nobody is anything but gleeful or indifferent about the murder.

Agree. Very few people on either side are bothered by this. It’s truly bipartisan. At best, the vase majority of ordinary people on the right or left are indifferent.

If Americans are indifferent when literal children are gunned down in schools, why would anyone care about a CEO? This is what the people in power want- indifference.

It's not indifference that someone was killed. It's indifference that a a greedy scumbag was killed, and that (perhaps) a killer would get away with it, because karma. Because nothing of value was lost. Just like many other CEO's think when regular people suffer.

I don't feel indifferent. Murder is wrong. He should not have shot Brian Thompson.

Yes, murder is wrong.

But when it comes to killing someone complicit and responsible for the suffering and deaths of so many... well that's where the indifference comes from. I certainly don't feel bad for Thompson.

Would anyone feel bad if Hitler had been murdered?

ok hitler is too much , but brian Thomspson killed a lot more people than Al Capone. Should people have been sad if capone had been murdered? Al Capone also ran soup kitchens before anyone else did in the poor areas of Chicago, brian thimspon never even did that much good in the world. Capone was arrested but if he'd been shot on the street, noone would mourn Capones death, and he killed a lot less people than the CEO of a health insurance company does. We already live in a society where 5 year old kids learn how to play dead in school before they learn their ABCs. So pretty lawless.

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I would never actively cheer murder, however, I suggest the following ppl trying to act morally superior and chastising the reaction of the countless millions who are gleeful, to go f themselves:

-Those who cheer on IDF snipers massacring children including shooting them in the head while literally in their mother's arms...and all for *fun*

-Anyone who supports a dogsh*t rapist who said he could shoot someone on 5th avenue (as opposed to 6th ave where this guy was shot) and not lose their support.

A lot of loathsome types fall into both categories and should especially shove their finger-pointing where the sun don't shine.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.

Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?

In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.

Yep. Private equity is all over specialized surgical and medical groups …. these doctors are money machines. Cha Ching! $$ Smart doctors know how to game the system. Spend 15 minutes with a patient, quick exam, order scans. Done. Next!

Even large hospital groups order needless scans, ultrasounds, blood work, procedures, unnecessary surgeries…it’s insane.

Yes—I’m generally pro doctor but anyone who thinks that doctors don’t need checks on spending is naive. The nursing homes are notorious for ordering useless tests and therapies to pad their profits. And lots of doctors will just write whatever test or script their patient wants because it’s easier than arguing or because they are making a profit (remember the opioid epidemic?). Everyone would like to have great doctors who only prescribe medically necessary stuff and only do so in their best interest, and have affordable health care that covers all medically necessary treatments, even if those treatments cost millions of dollars a year for a single condition. But it’s not reality. Yes, let’s crack down on the bad actors, but this generalized hate for health insurance providers is just so naive and dangerous. Does anyone remember the world before health insurance? Working class people just died if they got anything that needed more than a doctors visit. Pooling of risk is a good thing—that’s what insurance is. But insurance companies have to follow their written policies.

There are monsters at every level of the system. This hospital allowed this doctor to misdiagnose and kill patients because he made money for them.

The opioid epidemic is due in part to physicians being courted by pharma sales people and the fact that no one was watching what was going on so the pill mills were allowed to dispense like crazy and Medicaid just paid. I’m not saying health insurance companies are angels by any means but there are plenty of bad actors out there.


https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology

Also look at the stories about patients being kept in psych wards so that the monstrous doctors could keep billing insurance. It's sickening. The whole system from insurance to hospital to medical staff, is corrupt.

And Americans need to stop thinking this country has the most envied medical system in the world, because anyone who has actually traveled and needed medical care in other countries, knows it's BS. I have friends currently traveling to a couple of other countries for advanced medical treatments that the US doesn't offer.

Would you mind sharing what these advanced medical treatments are?

Hair transplants in Turkey.

I have a relative that travelled to Europe for an advanced medical heart procedure that was not yet approved in America because American regulatory authorities are more cautious than Europeans. His health was bad so no one would take him in one of the American clinical trials but the European hospital happily took his money for this pointless medical procedure. In general. European medicine is better at the bottom and (getting treated for a UTI is much cheaper and easier) and sometimes the experimental end (because less restrictions, doctors aren’t worried about being sued). But lots more people come to America for treatment than the reverse.

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Anonymous wrote:Random hit.

Power move

Attempt to destabilize

Test case to see how nuts social media and mass media follows it

Test case if America will cannibalize itself with chaos and internal theories.

Deemed a success thus far.

I’m skeptical because I don’t find the passing of a ceo to be destabilizing.

+1 and America was already cannibalizing itself — if anything, this event united the country, as people across the political spectrum have had dreadful encounters with insurers.

That’s a good way of putting it. No one love health insurance companies.

That is about the only thing conservatives and liberals can agree on! I was talking about this with my “Fox News is not conservative enough” (really) aunt and uncle and their reaction was “the CEO had it coming.” Outside truly bleeding hearts, his fellow industry vultures and the man’s family and friends nobody is anything but gleeful or indifferent about the murder.

Agree. Very few people on either side are bothered by this. It’s truly bipartisan. At best, the vase majority of ordinary people on the right or left are indifferent.

If Americans are indifferent when literal children are gunned down in schools, why would anyone care about a CEO? This is what the people in power want- indifference.

It's not indifference that someone was killed. It's indifference that a a greedy scumbag was killed, and that (perhaps) a killer would get away with it, because karma. Because nothing of value was lost. Just like many other CEO's think when regular people suffer.

I don't feel indifferent. Murder is wrong. He should not have shot Brian Thompson.

Yes, murder is wrong.

But when it comes to killing someone complicit and responsible for the suffering and deaths of so many... well that's where the indifference comes from. I certainly don't feel bad for Thompson.

Would anyone feel bad if Hitler had been murdered?

ok hitler is too much , but brian Thomspson killed a lot more people than Al Capone. Should people have been sad if capone had been murdered? Al Capone also ran soup kitchens before anyone else did in the poor areas of Chicago, brian thimspon never even did that much good in the world. Capone was arrested but if he'd been shot on the street, noone would mourn Capones death, and he killed a lot less people than the CEO of a health insurance company does. We already live in a society where 5 year old kids learn how to play dead in school before they learn their ABCs. So pretty lawless.

I don’t wish that he was killed but I feel indifferent to someone who made millions of dollars off of misery to others. His $10 million dollar salary wasn’t even enough so he engaged in insider trading. How much money, how many homes, how many cars are enough for one person?

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There have been some great articles written over Americans’ reaction to this event.

On this point, though, everyone’s really in agreement. It’s just a matter of where you locate the decay—in the killing, or in the response to it, or in what led us here. The only way to end up in a situation where a C.E.O. of a health-insurance company is reflexively viewed as a dictatorial purveyor of suffering is through a history of socially sanctioned death. A person who posted on Reddit’s r/nurses forum, whose profile describes her as an I.C.U. nurse, wrote, “Honestly, I’m not wishing anyone harm, but when you’ve spent so much time and made so much money by increasing the suffering of the humanity around you, it’s hard for me to summon empathy that you died. I’m sure someone somewhere is sad about this. I am following his lead of indifference.” Reading this, I thought about the statistic, from 2018, that health-care workers account for seventy-three per cent of all nonfatal workplace injuries due to violence. Nurses, residents, aides, specialists—they are asked to absorb the rage and panic induced by the American health-care system, whose private insurers generate billions of dollars in profit and pay executives eight figures not despite but because of the fact that they routinely deny care to desperate people in need.

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/what-the-murder-of-the-unitedhealthcare-ceo-brian-thompson-means-to-america?utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_120724&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_medium=email&utm_term=tny_daily_digest&bxid=605e19465e21076df11f41e5&cndid=64346213&hasha=a31568615a84b1897343c7dc6267fc64&hashb=b31b71f376dc8c5668be73d91056260bbf70ea66&hashc=39161f5e4c382b1a9b18b15861941dd9b7e04ffa8ce1ba3b375ca468f5f21036&esrc=

Our for profit healthcare system is horrible for the average working American.

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Anonymous wrote:The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information on the suspect and have Border Patrol looking for this guy.

He might actually get away with this. There are way less cameras in the world than I thought and I thought police work was more advanced than this.

I've had the opposite reaction. I've been finding the number of cameras, and the speed at which they've been able to go through them, to be incredibly disconcerting.

agree. They show the same outfit exiting the bus station but never leaving it. always the side view bc he knows the cameras are there. I'm not sure he ever left NYC

I read they’d never seen him exiting the bus station.

Can you share photos?

The last pp is correct. He went into the bus station. He didn't exit the bus station. Therefore, police have assumed he boarded a bus that left NYC.

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Yeah there is a big gap between cheering his death and not caring if he was killed and O am squarely in the latter.

I actually think it’s morally wrong to prioritize his death over the deaths of thousands of people he contributed to by denying coverage.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information on the suspect and have Border Patrol looking for this guy.

He might actually get away with this. There are way less cameras in the world than I thought and I thought police work was more advanced than this.

I've had the opposite reaction. I've been finding the number of cameras, and the speed at which they've been able to go through them, to be incredibly disconcerting.

agree. They show the same outfit exiting the bus station but never leaving it. always the side view bc he knows the cameras are there. I'm not sure he ever left NYC

I read they’d never seen him exiting the bus station.

Can you share photos?

The last pp is correct. He went into the bus station. He didn't exit the bus station. Therefore, police have assumed he boarded a bus that left NYC.

Entirely possible, maybe probable, but I think it's worth mentioning that the bus station is also a subway station so it's not 100 percent he left on a bus.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

There are a lot of people on DCUM going through the “wait - are we the baddies???” mental process right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Random hit.

Power move

Attempt to destabilize

Test case to see how nuts social media and mass media follows it

Test case if America will cannibalize itself with chaos and internal theories.

Deemed a success thus far.

I’m skeptical because I don’t find the passing of a ceo to be destabilizing.

+1 and America was already cannibalizing itself — if anything, this event united the country, as people across the political spectrum have had dreadful encounters with insurers.

That’s a good way of putting it. No one love health insurance companies.

That is about the only thing conservatives and liberals can agree on! I was talking about this with my “Fox News is not conservative enough” (really) aunt and uncle and their reaction was “the CEO had it coming.” Outside truly bleeding hearts, his fellow industry vultures and the man’s family and friends nobody is anything but gleeful or indifferent about the murder.

Wow! Where are those people who are against murder?

They sure as hell aren’t health insurance CEOs.

Good point.

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Pretty interesting to see corporate media and Republican grifters trying to paint this guy as a saint. Nobody becomes CEO of that ruthless company in their 40s by being a Boy Scout. He got profiting off the misery of others.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a person who is pretty moderate (and not in the insurance business) and I’m absolutely shocked at the response to this murder (while also recognizing that people are right to be fed up with insurance companies.) It’s really disturbing groupthink and I hope no one I know irl says something like the folks on this thread because I will not be able to look at them the same way.

That's probably because you are pretty comfortable and you have hadn't to deal with parents, grandparents, siblings, or your children being denied health care by an accountant.

There are millions of people who have died, suffered, or been destroyed financially so that the CEO of UHC can make his bonus. It's completely reasonable that the entire country - both left and right - is cheering for the shooter. So many families have suffered and died for this guys wealth. And united healthcare was the worst of the worst. That CEO was genuine scum who caused a lot of unnecessary death and suffering - for his money.

Health insurance isn't a toy company. Everyone needs health care to live. And this guy denies life for his profit. It's not at all surprising that people are having some feelings.