UHC CEO Gunned Down in Midtown Manhattan

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Went to a Scottish Wlak party in Old Town today that included bigwig politicians I won't name but locals will know who I mean.

All of them. All.Of. Them. Basically celebrated this D bag's demise.

The guy made 10MM (in Minnesota) because he denied life saving measures to enough people that UHC called 10MM fair compensation.

Think about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went to a Scottish Wlak party in Old Town today that included bigwig politicians I won't name but locals will know who I mean.

All of them. All.Of. Them. Basically celebrated this D bag's demise.

The guy made 10MM (in Minnesota) because he denied life saving measures to enough people that UHC called 10MM fair compensation.

Think about that.

This makes me think this was a set up, this dude had enemies.

[Anonymous]

Bottom line, health insurers should not be for-profit. They just shouldn't.
I feel awful that my 401k invests in companies like these.

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Did they really find Monopoly money in the backpack!?

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Anonymous wrote:The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information on the suspect and have Border Patrol looking for this guy.

He might actually get away with this. There are way less cameras in the world than I thought and I thought police work was more advanced than this.

I've had the opposite reaction. I've been finding the number of cameras, and the speed at which they've been able to go through them, to be incredibly disconcerting.

agree. They show the same outfit exiting the bus station but never leaving it. always the side view bc he knows the cameras are there. I'm not sure he ever left NYC

I read they’d never seen him exiting the bus station.

Can you share photos?

The last pp is correct. He went into the bus station. He didn't exit the bus station. Therefore, police have assumed he boarded a bus that left NYC.

Thank you. I wonder if he could have exited with a disguise. I’m sure they considered that but still.

[Anonymous]

This is a strange quote.

How does it help to broadcast you are not sharing the killer’s name so he doesn’t have an advantage?? How does sharing the name give the killer an advantage??

“Adams was quoted by the Post as saying the police were withholding the suspect's name for now to deny him any advantage.”

“We don’t want to release that now,” the mayor said. “If you do, you are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask."


https://www.reuters.com/world/us/nyc-mayor-says-suspect-identified-unitedhealth-executives-murder-ny-post-reports-2024-12-07/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Went to a Scottish Wlak party in Old Town today that included bigwig politicians I won't name but locals will know who I mean.

All of them. All.Of. Them. Basically celebrated this D bag's demise.

The guy made 10MM (in Minnesota) because he denied life saving measures to enough people that UHC called 10MM fair compensation.

Think about that.

People keep saying this but what’s the basis for it? He was the CEO of a 40B/ye revenue company. That’s .025 percent of annual revenue. I don’t think that’s so abnormal in the corporate world. Is there any reason to think that he was personally responsible for policies that wrongfully denied insurance to people? Or do people just hate insurance so much that they think everyone involved in the industry is morally culpable? I don’t know enough about this guy but I find the rhetoric really troubling. People are acting like he’s the evil guy in a John Grisham novel….maybe he is, but I haven’t seen the evidence.

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The feels like a real-life version of the trolley scenario or some other philosophical/ethics topic.

And I think it's pretty telling that the CEO response is not "How can we behave more ethically?" but "How can we beef up our personal security?"

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Twitter is reporting that the found backpack was full of Monopoly money.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m amazed at the number of people who think health insurance is the main problem, as if the hospitals just honest businessmen submitting bills for their services and the docs as well. The whole system is a sh&t show. Cardiologist in the US make like a half a million, in the Uk it’s like £150K.

People should be mad at their legislators for allowing it to get this way. This is not to say that insurers don’t have their problems but they are but one cog in the wheel of grift and dysfunction.

Cardiologists actually provide an extremely valuable service. Insurance companies suck money out of the system. Do you really not see the difference?

In many cases they keep the system from ripping people off and in many cases make sure that people don’t get the wrong med or unnecessary procedures. I know you think your doctor is the bees knees and would never do anything unethical or wrong but you would be wrong. Consider the fact that so many physician groups have sold out to PE who are managing care by the way in which they manage the practice. The docs didn’t sell because they are concerned about the good of the patients - they wanted a paycheck. There are no innocents in this game.

Yep. Private equity is all over specialized surgical and medical groups …. these doctors are money machines. Cha Ching! $$ Smart doctors know how to game the system. Spend 15 minutes with a patient, quick exam, order scans. Done. Next!

Even large hospital groups order needless scans, ultrasounds, blood work, procedures, unnecessary surgeries…it’s insane.

Yes—I’m generally pro doctor but anyone who thinks that doctors don’t need checks on spending is naive. The nursing homes are notorious for ordering useless tests and therapies to pad their profits. And lots of doctors will just write whatever test or script their patient wants because it’s easier than arguing or because they are making a profit (remember the opioid epidemic?). Everyone would like to have great doctors who only prescribe medically necessary stuff and only do so in their best interest, and have affordable health care that covers all medically necessary treatments, even if those treatments cost millions of dollars a year for a single condition. But it’s not reality. Yes, let’s crack down on the bad actors, but this generalized hate for health insurance providers is just so naive and dangerous. Does anyone remember the world before health insurance? Working class people just died if they got anything that needed more than a doctors visit. Pooling of risk is a good thing—that’s what insurance is. But insurance companies have to follow their written policies.

There are monsters at every level of the system. This hospital allowed this doctor to misdiagnose and kill patients because he made money for them.

The opioid epidemic is due in part to physicians being courted by pharma sales people and the fact that no one was watching what was going on so the pill mills were allowed to dispense like crazy and Medicaid just paid. I’m not saying health insurance companies are angels by any means but there are plenty of bad actors out there.


https://www.propublica.org/article/thomas-weiner-montana-st-peters-hospital-oncology

Also look at the stories about patients being kept in psych wards so that the monstrous doctors could keep billing insurance. It's sickening. The whole system from insurance to hospital to medical staff, is corrupt.

And Americans need to stop thinking this country has the most envied medical system in the world, because anyone who has actually traveled and needed medical care in other countries, knows it's BS. I have friends currently traveling to a couple of other countries for advanced medical treatments that the US doesn't offer.

Would you mind sharing what these advanced medical treatments are?

Hair transplants in Turkey.

I have a relative that travelled to Europe for an advanced medical heart procedure that was not yet approved in America because American regulatory authorities are more cautious than Europeans. His health was bad so no one would take him in one of the American clinical trials but the European hospital happily took his money for this pointless medical procedure. In general. European medicine is better at the bottom and (getting treated for a UTI is much cheaper and easier) and sometimes the experimental end (because less restrictions, doctors aren’t worried about being sued). But lots more people come to America for treatment than the reverse.

My brother lives in Belgium and had.an orthopedic surgery that didn't go well and had to be done over. That sounds like similar results I've heard of in the US. What do anecdotes mean?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Went to a Scottish Wlak party in Old Town today that included bigwig politicians I won't name but locals will know who I mean.

All of them. All.Of. Them. Basically celebrated this D bag's demise.

The guy made 10MM (in Minnesota) because he denied life saving measures to enough people that UHC called 10MM fair compensation.

Think about that.

People keep saying this but what’s the basis for it? He was the CEO of a 40B/ye revenue company. That’s .025 percent of annual revenue. I don’t think that’s so abnormal in the corporate world. Is there any reason to think that he was personally responsible for policies that wrongfully denied insurance to people? Or do people just hate insurance so much that they think everyone involved in the industry is morally culpable? I don’t know enough about this guy but I find the rhetoric really troubling. People are acting like he’s the evil guy in a John Grisham novel….maybe he is, but I haven’t seen the evidence.

There have been a few examples, like his implementation of AI to deny claims. I think part of the problem is that we are used to being led and herded by trash at the political and corporate level. It’s just normal now. Maybe it’s always been that way.

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Anonymous wrote:Did they really find Monopoly money in the backpack!?

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Anonymous wrote:This is predictable. But you never know what intentional disinformation police put out to get the perp to relax.

Shouldn't there be a comma after Thompson?

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Anonymous wrote:The FBI is offering a $50,000 reward for information on the suspect and have Border Patrol looking for this guy.

He might actually get away with this. There are way less cameras in the world than I thought and I thought police work was more advanced than this.

I've had the opposite reaction. I've been finding the number of cameras, and the speed at which they've been able to go through them, to be incredibly disconcerting.

agree. They show the same outfit exiting the bus station but never leaving it. always the side view bc he knows the cameras are there. I'm not sure he ever left NYC

I read they’d never seen him exiting the bus station.

Can you share photos?

The last pp is correct. He went into the bus station. He didn't exit the bus station. Therefore, police have assumed he boarded a bus that left NYC.

Thank you. I wonder if he could have exited with a disguise. I’m sure they considered that but still.

Easily could have been to misdirect the police into thinking he boarded a bus. Bullet have inscriptions and suspect's backpack had Monopoly money.

[Anonymous]

Has it been discussed where he procured the e-bike? I saw that it wasn’t a citibike, and you can’t leave an unattended bike in ny for more than a second before it’s stolen. Did he have one hidden in an alley?