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How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

That's not exactly how it goes down. I've seen lots of poaching over the years. To my club, away from my club...

I guess in a true sense of the word parents can't make a promise about placement/roster but it happens all the time and you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. One case that's coming to mind in recent years. U15 parents moved to a new club. They bring friends over to the new club, without even trying out. Just tell the coach "i know this great keeper, or striker, or whatever" and the next thing you know, there's a new kid on the roster. Mid-season movement happens a lot - usually b/c the coaches or parents know of someone at another club, and they figure out how to get him to defect. Lots of promises are made - you'll be on the A team w/o trying out, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:There's conversational recruiting that happens between players and their friends, or parents .... and then there's the outright poaching by FCV .... big difference

I guess explain the difference then so that I know it when I see it.

Conversational recruiting is like -- little Landon/Landon's parent is talking to their friend about how their club soccer is going, they don't like it, they're in a bad situation, don't feel challenged, think they're being overlooked, think they are great but need a better team to help showcase their greatness, etc and the friend/parent says "hey we really like our club and think you might want to take a look" and it evolves from there.

Ok, that sounds fine. Now, explain how FCV recruits so that we can see the difference. Remember, a PP said a "FCV parent" tried to get them to move to FCV.

When "FCV parent" was not previously friendly with said player/parent, and strikes up conversation solely for recruiting purposes, that's poaching.

How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

OK FCV parent ... clearly I've offended you. You must be fairly new to travel soccer and very excited about your club. In the old days, when WAGS was the only game in town, parents in that exact same scenario caused their clubs to be brought into the WAGS R&D for recruiting violations ... crazy right? But yes, that is considered poaching in some circles.

Keep on keeping on ....

I have zero problem with this as a parent. I've been flattered and I know my child has been. He's been complimented and noticed for his level play more by outside coaches and opposing players than anyone in his own club.

If you aren't ready to leave just yet, you just respond 'thanks. we'll keep you in mind in the future'. No harm, no foul. The only ones upset in this scenario are the Clubs, but they don't have any loyalty to your kid no matter how much smoke they blow are currently blowing up your ass. A better player comes along in the future, your kid is on the bench or chopping block. It's the nature of the business. Notice 'business'. This is all about $$$. Let's not kid ourselves. We also know 'the grass is not always greener'. Go into it with your eyes open, do your research, talk to actual players and parents...you will quickly discover things really could be better--or they are at the very least only the same or worse.

The current recruiting rules in leagues benefit the Clubs, not the players. Our club talks a great deal about loyalty, but they bring in 9-year olds from other local clubs mid-season to train with our team and guarantee them a spot on the roster for the next year. 9-year olds .

This is it exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:There's conversational recruiting that happens between players and their friends, or parents .... and then there's the outright poaching by FCV .... big difference

I guess explain the difference then so that I know it when I see it.

Conversational recruiting is like -- little Landon/Landon's parent is talking to their friend about how their club soccer is going, they don't like it, they're in a bad situation, don't feel challenged, think they're being overlooked, think they are great but need a better team to help showcase their greatness, etc and the friend/parent says "hey we really like our club and think you might want to take a look" and it evolves from there.

Ok, that sounds fine. Now, explain how FCV recruits so that we can see the difference. Remember, a PP said a "FCV parent" tried to get them to move to FCV.

When "FCV parent" was not previously friendly with said player/parent, and strikes up conversation solely for recruiting purposes, that's poaching.

How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

OK FCV parent ... clearly I've offended you. You must be fairly new to travel soccer and very excited about your club. In the old days, when WAGS was the only game in town, parents in that exact same scenario caused their clubs to be brought into the WAGS R&D for recruiting violations ... crazy right? But yes, that is considered poaching in some circles.

Keep on keeping on ....

I have zero problem with this as a parent. I've been flattered and I know my child has been. He's been complimented and noticed for his level play more by outside coaches and opposing players than anyone in his own club.

If you aren't ready to leave just yet, you just respond 'thanks. we'll keep you in mind in the future'. No harm, no foul. The only ones upset in this scenario are the Clubs, but they don't have any loyalty to your kid no matter how much smoke they blow are currently blowing up your ass. A better player comes along in the future, your kid is on the bench or chopping block. It's the nature of the business. Notice 'business'. This is all about $$$. Let's not kid ourselves. We also know 'the grass is not always greener'. Go into it with your eyes open, do your research, talk to actual players and parents...you will quickly discover things really could be better--or they are at the very least only the same or worse.

The current recruiting rules in leagues benefit the Clubs, not the players. Our club talks a great deal about loyalty, but they bring in 9-year olds from other local clubs mid-season to train with our team and guarantee them a spot on the roster for the next year. 9-year olds .

We are a CCL club by the way. I guess they get around this by saying it was the parent/player that approached them. I don't know how else they've had 2-3 kids do this in our club in the past year. I do know doing it this young has soured a lot of players/parents currently in the club. We have 4-6 teams per age group. With a level of talent that deep, there is no need to bring in 8 and 9-year olds from other local clubs midseason. It's some crazy sh*t.

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Anonymous wrote:There's conversational recruiting that happens between players and their friends, or parents .... and then there's the outright poaching by FCV .... big difference

I guess explain the difference then so that I know it when I see it.

Conversational recruiting is like -- little Landon/Landon's parent is talking to their friend about how their club soccer is going, they don't like it, they're in a bad situation, don't feel challenged, think they're being overlooked, think they are great but need a better team to help showcase their greatness, etc and the friend/parent says "hey we really like our club and think you might want to take a look" and it evolves from there.

Ok, that sounds fine. Now, explain how FCV recruits so that we can see the difference. Remember, a PP said a "FCV parent" tried to get them to move to FCV.

When "FCV parent" was not previously friendly with said player/parent, and strikes up conversation solely for recruiting purposes, that's poaching.

How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

OK FCV parent ... clearly I've offended you. You must be fairly new to travel soccer and very excited about your club. In the old days, when WAGS was the only game in town, parents in that exact same scenario caused their clubs to be brought into the WAGS R&D for recruiting violations ... crazy right? But yes, that is considered poaching in some circles.

Keep on keeping on ....

I have zero problem with this as a parent. I've been flattered and I know my child has been. He's been complimented and noticed for his level play more by outside coaches and opposing players than anyone in his own club.

If you aren't ready to leave just yet, you just respond 'thanks. we'll keep you in mind in the future'. No harm, no foul. The only ones upset in this scenario are the Clubs, but they don't have any loyalty to your kid no matter how much smoke they blow are currently blowing up your ass. A better player comes along in the future, your kid is on the bench or chopping block. It's the nature of the business. Notice 'business'. This is all about $$$. Let's not kid ourselves. We also know 'the grass is not always greener'. Go into it with your eyes open, do your research, talk to actual players and parents...you will quickly discover things really could be better--or they are at the very least only the same or worse.

The current recruiting rules in leagues benefit the Clubs, not the players. Our club talks a great deal about loyalty, but they bring in 9-year olds from other local clubs mid-season to train with our team and guarantee them a spot on the roster for the next year. 9-year olds .

This is it exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:
How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

That's not exactly how it goes down. I've seen lots of poaching over the years. To my club, away from my club...

I guess in a true sense of the word parents can't make a promise about placement/roster but it happens all the time and you are kidding yourself if you think otherwise. One case that's coming to mind in recent years. U15 parents moved to a new club. They bring friends over to the new club, without even trying out. Just tell the coach "i know this great keeper, or striker, or whatever" and the next thing you know, there's a new kid on the roster. Mid-season movement happens a lot - usually b/c the coaches or parents know of someone at another club, and they figure out how to get him to defect. Lots of promises are made - you'll be on the A team w/o trying out, etc.

And I too have seen kids come as package deals. But I've more often than not witnessed that the package was really all about one of the kids in the deal. The other kids in the package generally get placed accordingly and after a year they aren't on the same team anymore anyways.

Soccer is to small a world to not fall into lazy nepotism, but that isn't really "poaching" in my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:There's conversational recruiting that happens between players and their friends, or parents .... and then there's the outright poaching by FCV .... big difference

I guess explain the difference then so that I know it when I see it.

Conversational recruiting is like -- little Landon/Landon's parent is talking to their friend about how their club soccer is going, they don't like it, they're in a bad situation, don't feel challenged, think they're being overlooked, think they are great but need a better team to help showcase their greatness, etc and the friend/parent says "hey we really like our club and think you might want to take a look" and it evolves from there.

Ok, that sounds fine. Now, explain how FCV recruits so that we can see the difference. Remember, a PP said a "FCV parent" tried to get them to move to FCV.

When "FCV parent" was not previously friendly with said player/parent, and strikes up conversation solely for recruiting purposes, that's poaching.

How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

OK FCV parent ... clearly I've offended you. You must be fairly new to travel soccer and very excited about your club. In the old days, when WAGS was the only game in town, parents in that exact same scenario caused their clubs to be brought into the WAGS R&D for recruiting violations ... crazy right? But yes, that is considered poaching in some circles.

Keep on keeping on ....

I have zero problem with this as a parent. I've been flattered and I know my child has been. He's been complimented and noticed for his level play more by outside coaches and opposing players than anyone in his own club.

If you aren't ready to leave just yet, you just respond 'thanks. we'll keep you in mind in the future'. No harm, no foul. The only ones upset in this scenario are the Clubs, but they don't have any loyalty to your kid no matter how much smoke they blow are currently blowing up your ass. A better player comes along in the future, your kid is on the bench or chopping block. It's the nature of the business. Notice 'business'. This is all about $$$. Let's not kid ourselves. We also know 'the grass is not always greener'. Go into it with your eyes open, do your research, talk to actual players and parents...you will quickly discover things really could be better--or they are at the very least only the same or worse.

The current recruiting rules in leagues benefit the Clubs, not the players. Our club talks a great deal about loyalty, but they bring in 9-year olds from other local clubs mid-season to train with our team and guarantee them a spot on the roster for the next year. 9-year olds .

We are a CCL club by the way. I guess they get around this by saying it was the parent/player that approached them. I don't know how else they've had 2-3 kids do this in our club in the past year. I do know doing it this young has soured a lot of players/parents currently in the club. We have 4-6 teams per age group. With a level of talent that deep, there is no need to bring in 8 and 9-year olds from other local clubs midseason. It's some crazy sh*t.

Just clarifying. You are saying that FCV poached 2-3 CCL U9 girls this year?

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Anonymous wrote:There's conversational recruiting that happens between players and their friends, or parents .... and then there's the outright poaching by FCV .... big difference

I guess explain the difference then so that I know it when I see it.

Conversational recruiting is like -- little Landon/Landon's parent is talking to their friend about how their club soccer is going, they don't like it, they're in a bad situation, don't feel challenged, think they're being overlooked, think they are great but need a better team to help showcase their greatness, etc and the friend/parent says "hey we really like our club and think you might want to take a look" and it evolves from there.

Ok, that sounds fine. Now, explain how FCV recruits so that we can see the difference. Remember, a PP said a "FCV parent" tried to get them to move to FCV.

When "FCV parent" was not previously friendly with said player/parent, and strikes up conversation solely for recruiting purposes, that's poaching.

How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

OK FCV parent ... clearly I've offended you. You must be fairly new to travel soccer and very excited about your club. In the old days, when WAGS was the only game in town, parents in that exact same scenario caused their clubs to be brought into the WAGS R&D for recruiting violations ... crazy right? But yes, that is considered poaching in some circles.

Keep on keeping on ....

I have zero problem with this as a parent. I've been flattered and I know my child has been. He's been complimented and noticed for his level play more by outside coaches and opposing players than anyone in his own club.

If you aren't ready to leave just yet, you just respond 'thanks. we'll keep you in mind in the future'. No harm, no foul. The only ones upset in this scenario are the Clubs, but they don't have any loyalty to your kid no matter how much smoke they blow are currently blowing up your ass. A better player comes along in the future, your kid is on the bench or chopping block. It's the nature of the business. Notice 'business'. This is all about $$$. Let's not kid ourselves. We also know 'the grass is not always greener'. Go into it with your eyes open, do your research, talk to actual players and parents...you will quickly discover things really could be better--or they are at the very least only the same or worse.

The current recruiting rules in leagues benefit the Clubs, not the players. Our club talks a great deal about loyalty, but they bring in 9-year olds from other local clubs mid-season to train with our team and guarantee them a spot on the roster for the next year. 9-year olds .

We are a CCL club by the way. I guess they get around this by saying it was the parent/player that approached them. I don't know how else they've had 2-3 kids do this in our club in the past year. I do know doing it this young has soured a lot of players/parents currently in the club. We have 4-6 teams per age group. With a level of talent that deep, there is no need to bring in 8 and 9-year olds from other local clubs midseason. It's some crazy sh*t.

Just clarifying. You are saying that FCV poached 2-3 CCL U9 girls this year?

Not girls and not FCV.

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Anonymous wrote:There's conversational recruiting that happens between players and their friends, or parents .... and then there's the outright poaching by FCV .... big difference

I guess explain the difference then so that I know it when I see it.

Conversational recruiting is like -- little Landon/Landon's parent is talking to their friend about how their club soccer is going, they don't like it, they're in a bad situation, don't feel challenged, think they're being overlooked, think they are great but need a better team to help showcase their greatness, etc and the friend/parent says "hey we really like our club and think you might want to take a look" and it evolves from there.

Ok, that sounds fine. Now, explain how FCV recruits so that we can see the difference. Remember, a PP said a "FCV parent" tried to get them to move to FCV.

When "FCV parent" was not previously friendly with said player/parent, and strikes up conversation solely for recruiting purposes, that's poaching.

How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

OK FCV parent ... clearly I've offended you. You must be fairly new to travel soccer and very excited about your club. In the old days, when WAGS was the only game in town, parents in that exact same scenario caused their clubs to be brought into the WAGS R&D for recruiting violations ... crazy right? But yes, that is considered poaching in some circles.

Keep on keeping on ....

I have zero problem with this as a parent. I've been flattered and I know my child has been. He's been complimented and noticed for his level play more by outside coaches and opposing players than anyone in his own club.

If you aren't ready to leave just yet, you just respond 'thanks. we'll keep you in mind in the future'. No harm, no foul. The only ones upset in this scenario are the Clubs, but they don't have any loyalty to your kid no matter how much smoke they blow are currently blowing up your ass. A better player comes along in the future, your kid is on the bench or chopping block. It's the nature of the business. Notice 'business'. This is all about $$$. Let's not kid ourselves. We also know 'the grass is not always greener'. Go into it with your eyes open, do your research, talk to actual players and parents...you will quickly discover things really could be better--or they are at the very least only the same or worse.

The current recruiting rules in leagues benefit the Clubs, not the players. Our club talks a great deal about loyalty, but they bring in 9-year olds from other local clubs mid-season to train with our team and guarantee them a spot on the roster for the next year. 9-year olds .

We are a CCL club by the way. I guess they get around this by saying it was the parent/player that approached them. I don't know how else they've had 2-3 kids do this in our club in the past year. I do know doing it this young has soured a lot of players/parents currently in the club. We have 4-6 teams per age group. With a level of talent that deep, there is no need to bring in 8 and 9-year olds from other local clubs midseason. It's some crazy sh*t.

Just clarifying. You are saying that FCV poached 2-3 CCL U9 girls this year?

Not girls and not FCV.

Got it.

U9 is a tough call. Between parents over reacting to a lack of percieved development, overly high expectations for the age and general cluelessness of travel in general there is a higher rate of mid-season adds. With the birth year change coming there are likely lots of Aug 07's contacting clubs to get a leg up on teams as their kids would now be trying out at U10 and not U9 like originally slated.

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Anonymous wrote:There's conversational recruiting that happens between players and their friends, or parents .... and then there's the outright poaching by FCV .... big difference

I guess explain the difference then so that I know it when I see it.

Conversational recruiting is like -- little Landon/Landon's parent is talking to their friend about how their club soccer is going, they don't like it, they're in a bad situation, don't feel challenged, think they're being overlooked, think they are great but need a better team to help showcase their greatness, etc and the friend/parent says "hey we really like our club and think you might want to take a look" and it evolves from there.

Ok, that sounds fine. Now, explain how FCV recruits so that we can see the difference. Remember, a PP said a "FCV parent" tried to get them to move to FCV.

When "FCV parent" was not previously friendly with said player/parent, and strikes up conversation solely for recruiting purposes, that's poaching.

How so? Can the parent make ANY promises regarding the roster or placement? They are a parent! All they can really say is, "hey, your kid is pretty good, it would be nice to have her on our team." Wow, if you think that is poaching.

True "poaching" is actively recruiting a player to make a change midseason. Talking highly about your club, coach or team is not poaching.

OK FCV parent ... clearly I've offended you. You must be fairly new to travel soccer and very excited about your club. In the old days, when WAGS was the only game in town, parents in that exact same scenario caused their clubs to be brought into the WAGS R&D for recruiting violations ... crazy right? But yes, that is considered poaching in some circles.

Keep on keeping on ....

I have zero problem with this as a parent. I've been flattered and I know my child has been. He's been complimented and noticed for his level play more by outside coaches and opposing players than anyone in his own club.

If you aren't ready to leave just yet, you just respond 'thanks. we'll keep you in mind in the future'. No harm, no foul. The only ones upset in this scenario are the Clubs, but they don't have any loyalty to your kid no matter how much smoke they blow are currently blowing up your ass. A better player comes along in the future, your kid is on the bench or chopping block. It's the nature of the business. Notice 'business'. This is all about $$$. Let's not kid ourselves. We also know 'the grass is not always greener'. Go into it with your eyes open, do your research, talk to actual players and parents...you will quickly discover things really could be better--or they are at the very least only the same or worse.

The current recruiting rules in leagues benefit the Clubs, not the players. Our club talks a great deal about loyalty, but they bring in 9-year olds from other local clubs mid-season to train with our team and guarantee them a spot on the roster for the next year. 9-year olds .

We are a CCL club by the way. I guess they get around this by saying it was the parent/player that approached them. I don't know how else they've had 2-3 kids do this in our club in the past year. I do know doing it this young has soured a lot of players/parents currently in the club. We have 4-6 teams per age group. With a level of talent that deep, there is no need to bring in 8 and 9-year olds from other local clubs midseason. It's some crazy sh*t.

Just clarifying. You are saying that FCV poached 2-3 CCL U9 girls this year?

Not girls and not FCV.

Got it.

U9 is a tough call. Between parents over reacting to a lack of percieved development, overly high expectations for the age and general cluelessness of travel in general there is a higher rate of mid-season adds. With the birth year change coming there are likely lots of Aug 07's contacting clubs to get a leg up on teams as their kids would now be trying out at U10 and not U9 like originally slated.

These are 05/06s, last year and this year now U10, which makes it more curious. Not sure why mid-season poaching is happening at this age. I do know there were a lot of angry people. It doesn't seem like much thought was given. The simple answer a Club/Coach could give is to tell the players to come back in the spring for tryouts. Midseason additions to teams that are already at capacity when the players aren't any better than the ones already in the age group and reside in the County is just idiotic. This is what I'm talking about the falseness of 'loyalty' spouted by the Club while they turn around and do stuff like this. I'd expect this at 14/15, but not at 9/10 years old.

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This mid season player addition sounds like it might be Birth Year driven. I don't know your club or your team numbers but I think lots of teams will see this as the season progresses. Lots of new faces showing up at practices. Some of it is normal as it is better to attend a teams practice versus waiting for tryouts. But clubs are likely as anxious as parents are to see how some of their holes will be filled.

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Anonymous wrote:To the above post:

This mid season player addition sounds like it might be Birth Year driven. I don't know your club or your team numbers but I think lots of teams will see this as the season progresses. Lots of new faces showing up at practices. Some of it is normal as it is better to attend a teams practice versus waiting for tryouts. But clubs are likely as anxious as parents are to see how some of their holes will be filled.

Last year, there were no birth year issues.

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This mid season player addition sounds like it might be Birth Year driven. I don't know your club or your team numbers but I think lots of teams will see this as the season progresses. Lots of new faces showing up at practices. Some of it is normal as it is better to attend a teams practice versus waiting for tryouts. But clubs are likely as anxious as parents are to see how some of their holes will be filled.

They could start by actually looking at the talent already there.

It seems the take home is for players in this club is to start shopping around too.

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Anonymous wrote:To the above post:

This mid season player addition sounds like it might be Birth Year driven. I don't know your club or your team numbers but I think lots of teams will see this as the season progresses. Lots of new faces showing up at practices. Some of it is normal as it is better to attend a teams practice versus waiting for tryouts. But clubs are likely as anxious as parents are to see how some of their holes will be filled.

Last year, there were no birth year issues.

True, but the usual U9 issues mentioned above play into that kind of movement. It is pretty common at that particular age.

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Anonymous wrote:As to our U9 McLean Gold coach who went ballistic over a throw in. I was pissed. We are trying to teach the kids to respect referees and understand that everyone makes mistakes and you need to bounce back from a bad call, let it go, and refocus on the next play. That a-hole wouldn't let it go. That ref should have sent him off.

For some reason, the score of the Mclean Gold v Great Falls game wasn't posted on the website. I asked the site official and they said they weren't sure what they were going to do because, in all their years of running tournaments, they NEVER saw such a verbal attack on the 14 year old referee of that game by McLean.

Keep in mind that these games were in the lowest division of the tournament. These are clubs' 3rd and 4th teams maybe.

I am not sure why your last statement matters. These are 8 and 9-year olds. This type of behavior should not be happening. Their parents pay the same amount of $ for coaches and training. They are 8 and 9 many could be on the green team by 14. That's how it usually works.

NP here. I have a son on the Great Falls side of that game. That 14 year old ref had no idea what he was doing. They never should have put him out there without more training. We paid a lot of money to go to that tournament, and not so some inexperienced child could learn the ropes. If anyone yelled at that kid, they were only expressing what everyone else was thinking. It was bad call after bad call, and many more things not called out at all.

There is no excuse for ripping into a 14 year old kid over a U9 tournament. None. Your coach and parents should stay away from the games and kids.

Exactly ! The only things that matter at u9 should be getting touches on the ball and learning to love the game, no matter what "level" they are. That kind of behavior is going to make kids want to quit in the long run. Soccer is barely popular enough to get mls highlights on sportscenter and your going to go ballistic over u9 bad calls ? And then we wonder why most kids no longer care about soccer by the time they are in high school and would rather watch football and basketball

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Anonymous wrote:As to our U9 McLean Gold coach who went ballistic over a throw in. I was pissed. We are trying to teach the kids to respect referees and understand that everyone makes mistakes and you need to bounce back from a bad call, let it go, and refocus on the next play. That a-hole wouldn't let it go. That ref should have sent him off.

For some reason, the score of the Mclean Gold v Great Falls game wasn't posted on the website. I asked the site official and they said they weren't sure what they were going to do because, in all their years of running tournaments, they NEVER saw such a verbal attack on the 14 year old referee of that game by McLean.

Keep in mind that these games were in the lowest division of the tournament. These are clubs' 3rd and 4th teams maybe.

I am not sure why your last statement matters. These are 8 and 9-year olds. This type of behavior should not be happening. Their parents pay the same amount of $ for coaches and training. They are 8 and 9 many could be on the green team by 14. That's how it usually works.

NP here. I have a son on the Great Falls side of that game. That 14 year old ref had no idea what he was doing. They never should have put him out there without more training. We paid a lot of money to go to that tournament, and not so some inexperienced child could learn the ropes. If anyone yelled at that kid, they were only expressing what everyone else was thinking. It was bad call after bad call, and many more things not called out at all.

There is no excuse for ripping into a 14 year old kid over a U9 tournament. None. Your coach and parents should stay away from the games and kids.

Exactly ! The only things that matter at u9 should be getting touches on the ball and learning to love the game, no matter what "level" they are. That kind of behavior is going to make kids want to quit in the long run. Soccer is barely popular enough to get mls highlights on sportscenter and your going to go ballistic over u9 bad calls ? And then we wonder why most kids no longer care about soccer by the time they are in high school and would rather watch football and basketball

When the coach still has to help tie the kids shoes the results of the game should be put in perspective. If parents spent more time cheering for a number of consecutive passes instead of meaningless goals in a meaningless tournament you might actually see your kids learn the game.