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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

The Westbriar island is actually closest to SLHS. The neighborhoods are mostly made up of terminal roads that branch off of Belulah and Browns Mill, so while it’s physically close to Colvin Run, transportation savings could be negligible. Either solution would make a lot more sense than the current proposal.

So they can send those students to sunrise elementary and south lakes high

These families haven't seen their kids bused past Sunrise Valley for years on their way to Westbriar, just Colvin Run.

Region 5 specifically asked Thru to model moving the island to Colvin Run, Cooper, and Langley. Did that even happen? Leaving it as a stranded Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall island is absurd.

bussed by or not sunrise valley is a bit closer and hughes SL is a lot closer than cooper langley. so if they don’t what to be an island they can switch that way.

It's always interesting to see when distance does and doesn't matter for the Cooper-Langley gatekeepers.

reid said the main priority this round was capacity. they already added 200+ kids to langley. to add even more would put langley over or close to the 105%. if there are other schools closer with more capacity they should go there. everyone can’t get assigned to langley.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

The Westbriar island is actually closest to SLHS. The neighborhoods are mostly made up of terminal roads that branch off of Belulah and Browns Mill, so while it’s physically close to Colvin Run, transportation savings could be negligible. Either solution would make a lot more sense than the current proposal.

So they can send those students to sunrise elementary and south lakes high

These families haven't seen their kids bused past Sunrise Valley for years on their way to Westbriar, just Colvin Run.

Region 5 specifically asked Thru to model moving the island to Colvin Run, Cooper, and Langley. Did that even happen? Leaving it as a stranded Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall island is absurd.

bussed by or not sunrise valley is a bit closer and hughes SL is a lot closer than cooper langley. so if they don’t what to be an island they can switch that way.

It's always interesting to see when distance does and doesn't matter for the Cooper-Langley gatekeepers.

reid said the main priority this round was capacity. they already added 200+ kids to langley. to add even more would put langley over or close to the 105%. if there are other schools closer with more capacity they should go there. everyone can’t get assigned to langley.

Fun fact as well: The changes made in scenario 4 for region 4, moves Lake Braddock from 95-96% capacity, to over capacity at 102-103%. Why are we trying to eliminate one problem and turn around and create another?

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

The Westbriar island is actually closest to SLHS. The neighborhoods are mostly made up of terminal roads that branch off of Belulah and Browns Mill, so while it’s physically close to Colvin Run, transportation savings could be negligible. Either solution would make a lot more sense than the current proposal.

So they can send those students to sunrise elementary and south lakes high

These families haven't seen their kids bused past Sunrise Valley for years on their way to Westbriar, just Colvin Run.

Region 5 specifically asked Thru to model moving the island to Colvin Run, Cooper, and Langley. Did that even happen? Leaving it as a stranded Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall island is absurd.

bussed by or not sunrise valley is a bit closer and hughes SL is a lot closer than cooper langley. so if they don’t what to be an island they can switch that way.

It's always interesting to see when distance does and doesn't matter for the Cooper-Langley gatekeepers.

reid said the main priority this round was capacity. they already added 200+ kids to langley. to add even more would put langley over or close to the 105%. if there are other schools closer with more capacity they should go there. everyone can’t get assigned to langley.

Shhhh…. Stop making sense!

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Anonymous wrote:Someone from FCPS described the current Carson split as follows:

Westfield 50.7%
South Lakes 28.0%
Oakton 20.8%
Chantilly 0.4%

I guess that includes AAP kids, otherwise it seems like there would have been an earlier proposal to eliminate the splits to Oakton and Chantilly.

That must exclude AAP or the percentages do not add up. Either that or they are excluding the AAP from Franklin.

There are over 280 attending from Franklin. I assume that is half 7 and half 8th grade. That be a split between Navy and Oak Hill and Lee's Corner AAP from Franklin. Oak Hill has a LOT of kids in AAP.

The Oak Hill kids would be AAP, but that seems a very low percentage to me. I THINK Lee's Corner AAP also goes to Carson? Of course, some would end up at TJ, too.

But, I think that would only be 4 kids to Chantilly--so it must not include AAP. I know there are a whole lot more than that.

So, those percentages must exclude AAP from Franklin.

One thing for sure: those claiming this would reduce Westfield by 1000 are wrong.

Why? Carson is 1600. Don't you think Westfield kids at Carson are at least 500? Or maybe you just don't understand math.

I understand enough math to know there are not 1600 kids at Carson .

Let's see.

Carson has 1,360 students under Scenario 4. Are you saying fewer than 500 of these students will go to Westfield?

KAA will take 2,000 students (or 2000+ according to the last email). Crossfield is small, likely providing around 300 spots for KAA. Oak Hill could be up to 400 students at most. Floris-South Lakes should account for far fewer than 200 students. So, where are the remaining students for KAA coming from?

Westfield has over 2,700 students under scenario 4, with the vast majority from Carson and Stone Middle Schools (and a tiny number from Franklin). Are you saying that removing all Carson students from Westfield would reduce its enrollment by fewer than 1,000?

Your math just doesn’t add up.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

The Westbriar island is actually closest to SLHS. The neighborhoods are mostly made up of terminal roads that branch off of Belulah and Browns Mill, so while it’s physically close to Colvin Run, transportation savings could be negligible. Either solution would make a lot more sense than the current proposal.

So they can send those students to sunrise elementary and south lakes high

These families haven't seen their kids bused past Sunrise Valley for years on their way to Westbriar, just Colvin Run.

Region 5 specifically asked Thru to model moving the island to Colvin Run, Cooper, and Langley. Did that even happen? Leaving it as a stranded Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall island is absurd.

bussed by or not sunrise valley is a bit closer and hughes SL is a lot closer than cooper langley. so if they don’t what to be an island they can switch that way.

It's always interesting to see when distance does and doesn't matter for the Cooper-Langley gatekeepers.

reid said the main priority this round was capacity. they already added 200+ kids to langley. to add even more would put langley over or close to the 105%. if there are other schools closer with more capacity they should go there. everyone can’t get assigned to langley.

Shhhh…. Stop making sense!

If read up thread there was a proposal to move Westbriar island to Langley but also keep the Spring Hill island at McLean (and move a different area of McLean to Marshall). That would reduce the number of kids moved to Langley.

Langley has argued for many years to keep the school under capacity even when it means other schools stay over-crowded.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

The Westbriar island is actually closest to SLHS. The neighborhoods are mostly made up of terminal roads that branch off of Belulah and Browns Mill, so while it’s physically close to Colvin Run, transportation savings could be negligible. Either solution would make a lot more sense than the current proposal.

So they can send those students to sunrise elementary and south lakes high

These families haven't seen their kids bused past Sunrise Valley for years on their way to Westbriar, just Colvin Run.

Region 5 specifically asked Thru to model moving the island to Colvin Run, Cooper, and Langley. Did that even happen? Leaving it as a stranded Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall island is absurd.

bussed by or not sunrise valley is a bit closer and hughes SL is a lot closer than cooper langley. so if they don’t what to be an island they can switch that way.

It's always interesting to see when distance does and doesn't matter for the Cooper-Langley gatekeepers.

reid said the main priority this round was capacity. they already added 200+ kids to langley. to add even more would put langley over or close to the 105%. if there are other schools closer with more capacity they should go there. everyone can’t get assigned to langley.

Shhhh…. Stop making sense!

They can make more capacity available by making the obvious change of moving forestville to Herndon.

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Carson has 1,360 students under Scenario 4. Are you saying fewer than 500 of these students will go to Westfield.

286 of those students (according to transfer portal) do not live in Westfield boundary.
Since the PP said there were 1600 and that 50% go to Westfield, I question the accuracy of that statement.

But, in any case, almost 100 Carson students go to TJ. So that reduces the total going to area high schools.

In scenario 4, Floris students were taken out of Westfield and there were still 2700 students. There was only minor adjustment from Centreville.

So, yes, I think fewer than 500 go to Westfield.

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Carson has 1,360 students under Scenario 4. Are you saying fewer than 500 of these students will go to Westfield.

286 of those students (according to transfer portal) do not live in Carson boundary.

Since the PP said there were 1600 and that 50% go to Westfield, I question the accuracy of that statement about 50%

But, in any case, almost 120 Carson students go to TJ from the last two years.. So that reduces the total going to area high schools and likely brings total to less than 1000 going to area high schools.

In scenario 4, Floris students were taken out of Westfield and there were still 2700 students. There was only minor adjustment from Centreville.

So, yes, I think fewer than 500 go to Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

The Westbriar island is actually closest to SLHS. The neighborhoods are mostly made up of terminal roads that branch off of Belulah and Browns Mill, so while it’s physically close to Colvin Run, transportation savings could be negligible. Either solution would make a lot more sense than the current proposal.

So they can send those students to sunrise elementary and south lakes high

These families haven't seen their kids bused past Sunrise Valley for years on their way to Westbriar, just Colvin Run.

Region 5 specifically asked Thru to model moving the island to Colvin Run, Cooper, and Langley. Did that even happen? Leaving it as a stranded Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall island is absurd.

bussed by or not sunrise valley is a bit closer and hughes SL is a lot closer than cooper langley. so if they don’t what to be an island they can switch that way.

It's always interesting to see when distance does and doesn't matter for the Cooper-Langley gatekeepers.

reid said the main priority this round was capacity. they already added 200+ kids to langley. to add even more would put langley over or close to the 105%. if there are other schools closer with more capacity they should go there. everyone can’t get assigned to langley.

Shhhh…. Stop making sense!

They can make more capacity available by making the obvious change of moving forestville to Herndon.

Grumble grumble

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Anonymous wrote:Carson has 1,360 students under Scenario 4. Are you saying fewer than 500 of these students will go to Westfield.

286 of those students (according to transfer portal) do not live in Carson boundary.

Since the PP said there were 1600 and that 50% go to Westfield, I question the accuracy of that statement about 50%

But, in any case, almost 120 Carson students go to TJ from the last two years.. So that reduces the total going to area high schools and likely brings total to less than 1000 going to area high schools.

In scenario 4, Floris students were taken out of Westfield and there were still 2700 students. There was only minor adjustment from Centreville.

So, yes, I think fewer than 500 go to Westfield.

I love when people treat a math question like a political debate, grasping at the slightest argument to win.

Let's see.

Enrollment under Scenario 4
Floris K-6: 731 (assuming conservatively only half of them is going to Westfield, 365)
McNair PK-2: 550
McNair 3-6: 627
Coates: 688

Estimated number of students per each grade
Floris: 52
McNair: 294
Coates: 98
Total: 444

Let's assume 100 students go to TJ from this 444 (which is a super conservative assumption). That's still 334.
334*2 = 668. That's much more than 500. Do you understand this math?

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Anonymous wrote:Carson has 1,360 students under Scenario 4. Are you saying fewer than 500 of these students will go to Westfield.

286 of those students (according to transfer portal) do not live in Carson boundary.

Since the PP said there were 1600 and that 50% go to Westfield, I question the accuracy of that statement about 50%

But, in any case, almost 120 Carson students go to TJ from the last two years.. So that reduces the total going to area high schools and likely brings total to less than 1000 going to area high schools.

In scenario 4, Floris students were taken out of Westfield and there were still 2700 students. There was only minor adjustment from Centreville.

So, yes, I think fewer than 500 go to Westfield.

I love when people treat a math question like a political debate, grasping at the slightest argument to win.

Let's see.

Enrollment under Scenario 4
Floris K-6: 731 (assuming conservatively only half of them is going to Westfield, 365)
McNair PK-2: 550
McNair 3-6: 627
Coates: 688

Estimated number of students per each grade
Floris: 52
McNair: 294
Coates: 98
Total: 444

Let's assume 100 students go to TJ from this 444 (which is a super conservative assumption). That's still 334.
334*2 = 668. That's much more than 500. Do you understand this math?

Sorry I think I made a mistake.

Estimated number of students per each grade
Floris: 52
McNair: 147
Coates: 98
Total: 297

If we assume 100 students go to TJ from this 297, then the total will be less than 500. But only 78 kids from Carson went to TJ. If half of them are from Carson-Westfield, we should subtract 39 from 297. That is 258.

258*2 = 516.

Also I'm sure much more than half of Floris kids attend Westfield.

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Anonymous wrote:As between South Lakes and Oakton Reid seems to be suggesting more of SL might get moved into KAA than Oakton based on the drafts she's been reviewing. Obviously reading the tea leaves.

As a Fox Mill parent, please let this be true. Move the Fox Mill and Floris kids at SLHS to KAA.

Or get rid of IB at SLHS. Either would be appreciated.

I'd be shocked if Fox Mill's included. If it is, they would have to backfill with another ES - expanding the impacted communities - and undoing enough of the SLHS redistricting to put it back on the road to Lewis' status.

Exactly, if they pull all of Floris and Fox Mill out of SLHS, and down the road close the Herndon to SLHS IB transfers, then SLHS will start looking like what it sounds like is happening at Lewis. SLHS falling back into what it was before the 2008 changes. I think Coates, McNair, Oak Hill, and the majority of Floris are a shoo-in for KAA, but how the rest is filled is where the battle and consternation will be (Remainder of Floris, Fox Mill, Crossfield).

Look at boundary maps for Colvin Run, the entire Route 7 strip, Hunter Mill Rd. Thru moved a paltry number of Westbriar Island to Colvin Run where the residential access road is Route 7. The rest of it is a large island. Then find Sunrise Valley, feeds to Hughes /South Lakes.

One of the 3 C's at Colvin Run shares an access road with a newer and more expensive dev that was sent to Forest Edge. Road network leads to Hunter Mill and Route 7. Fact is SLHS could pick up students from Marshall and Langley. Oakton ES is a split? Could get some from there and Madison?

The Westbriar island should move to Colvin Run-Cooper-Langley. Period. It’s ridiculous to have such an isolated island.

If that means some of Great Falls needs to move from Langley to Herndon, so be it.

The Westbriar island is actually closest to SLHS. The neighborhoods are mostly made up of terminal roads that branch off of Belulah and Browns Mill, so while it’s physically close to Colvin Run, transportation savings could be negligible. Either solution would make a lot more sense than the current proposal.

So they can send those students to sunrise elementary and south lakes high

These families haven't seen their kids bused past Sunrise Valley for years on their way to Westbriar, just Colvin Run.

Region 5 specifically asked Thru to model moving the island to Colvin Run, Cooper, and Langley. Did that even happen? Leaving it as a stranded Westbriar-Kilmer-Marshall island is absurd.

bussed by or not sunrise valley is a bit closer and hughes SL is a lot closer than cooper langley. so if they don’t what to be an island they can switch that way.

It's always interesting to see when distance does and doesn't matter for the Cooper-Langley gatekeepers.

reid said the main priority this round was capacity. they already added 200+ kids to langley. to add even more would put langley over or close to the 105%. if there are other schools closer with more capacity they should go there. everyone can’t get assigned to langley.

Shhhh…. Stop making sense!

They can make more capacity available by making the obvious change of moving forestville to Herndon.

Grumble grumble

Oh, lookie, Miss Grumble is back.

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Anonymous wrote:Carson has 1,360 students under Scenario 4. Are you saying fewer than 500 of these students will go to Westfield.

286 of those students (according to transfer portal) do not live in Carson boundary.

Since the PP said there were 1600 and that 50% go to Westfield, I question the accuracy of that statement about 50%

But, in any case, almost 120 Carson students go to TJ from the last two years.. So that reduces the total going to area high schools and likely brings total to less than 1000 going to area high schools.

In scenario 4, Floris students were taken out of Westfield and there were still 2700 students. There was only minor adjustment from Centreville.

So, yes, I think fewer than 500 go to Westfield.

I love when people treat a math question like a political debate, grasping at the slightest argument to win.

Let's see.

Enrollment under Scenario 4
Floris K-6: 731 (assuming conservatively only half of them is going to Westfield, 365)
McNair PK-2: 550
McNair 3-6: 627
Coates: 688

Estimated number of students per each grade
Floris: 52
McNair: 294
Coates: 98
Total: 444

Let's assume 100 students go to TJ from this 444 (which is a super conservative assumption). That's still 334.
334*2 = 668. That's much more than 500. Do you understand this math?

Sorry I think I made a mistake.

Estimated number of students per each grade
Floris: 52
McNair: 147
Coates: 98
Total: 297

If we assume 100 students go to TJ from this 297, then the total will be less than 500. But only 78 kids from Carson went to TJ. If half of them are from Carson-Westfield, we should subtract 39 from 297. That is 258.

258*2 = 516.

Also I'm sure much more than half of Floris kids attend Westfield.

Just for reference it’s roughly 80/20 Westfield/SLHS at Floris. Floris parent here. The even split went out the door once the nearly 300 kids from the Dulles Discovery complex came in several years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Carson has 1,360 students under Scenario 4. Are you saying fewer than 500 of these students will go to Westfield.

286 of those students (according to transfer portal) do not live in Carson boundary.

Since the PP said there were 1600 and that 50% go to Westfield, I question the accuracy of that statement about 50%

But, in any case, almost 120 Carson students go to TJ from the last two years.. So that reduces the total going to area high schools and likely brings total to less than 1000 going to area high schools.

In scenario 4, Floris students were taken out of Westfield and there were still 2700 students. There was only minor adjustment from Centreville.

So, yes, I think fewer than 500 go to Westfield.

I love when people treat a math question like a political debate, grasping at the slightest argument to win.

Let's see.

Enrollment under Scenario 4
Floris K-6: 731 (assuming conservatively only half of them is going to Westfield, 365)
McNair PK-2: 550
McNair 3-6: 627
Coates: 688

Estimated number of students per each grade
Floris: 52
McNair: 294
Coates: 98
Total: 444

Let's assume 100 students go to TJ from this 444 (which is a super conservative assumption). That's still 334.
334*2 = 668. That's much more than 500. Do you understand this math?

Sorry I think I made a mistake.

Estimated number of students per each grade
Floris: 52
McNair: 147
Coates: 98
Total: 297

If we assume 100 students go to TJ from this 297, then the total will be less than 500. But only 78 kids from Carson went to TJ. If half of them are from Carson-Westfield, we should subtract 39 from 297. That is 258.

258*2 = 516.

Also I'm sure much more than half of Floris kids attend Westfield.

Just for reference it’s roughly 80/20 Westfield/SLHS at Floris. Floris parent here. The even split went out the door once the nearly 300 kids from the Dulles Discovery complex came in several years ago.

But, do they stay for high school? Lots of people move to larger quarters as kids get older.

[Anonymous]

The Marshall/Falls Church community meeting was far more civil than the Langley meeting last night, even though there are far more changes impacting those pyramids and some people had strong views. It must have been a relief for Dr. Reid not to have to deal with the Langley again parents tonight.