US has no good options in Ukraine

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: US And EU agree to remove select Russian banks from SWIFT, impose restrictions on Russian Central Bank

Why only select?!!! Just remove the whole country from swift.

Because then we can’t get our oil and gas and the economy crashes

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Anonymous wrote:BREAKING: US And EU agree to remove select Russian banks from SWIFT, impose restrictions on Russian Central Bank

Why only select?!!! Just remove the whole country from swift.

It’s a communications platform, not a financial payment system. They can still transact using old skool means like faxes.

EU is going to end the Golden Passport scheme, which is great, but since the UK isn’t in the EU any longer and the Russians love Londoningrad, big deal.

Oh, and they can just come here or go to the Caribbean (e.g. St Kitts & Nevis) for another citizenship.

Biden should also Xorder jus soli…no more Instagramming of US passports for the Moscow-Miami-Hallandale Beach
set’s babies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The caliber of Ukrainian women politicians:

https://twitter.com/lesiavasylenko?s=21

Wow. She’d easily become president in the Us.

Why don’t we have politicians like her?

Because our political discussions have become about trivialities, scoring points, and saying “no.” America has had it good for so long we’ve forgotten what matters. Heck, some sizable portion of the country would rather talk about civil war than work to prevent it. Americans have become lazy and parochial. I wish we had an event to unite us. Maybe Ukraine’s defense is it. Once and for all we’re seeing who supports Putin and his ilk. That isn’t American and people who support him are not our patriots.

I disagree with one point: 9/11 “United” the US, except it was United into jingoism and pointless wars instead of anything good. You need a well educated population with critical thinking skills and we don’t have that.

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldn’t they just surrender, it would
save lives and bloodshed. They are overpowered and outnumbered.

Because this is their homeland. They do not want to be ruled by a tyrant.
You must not understand that for many people, freedom is worth sacrificing one's life.

Well, the person you are responding to likely has tantrums around the freedom not to wear a mask during a pandemic, not understanding what ACTUAL freedom entails.

I mean, the patriots to the PP are the people who attacked the Capitol, whereas in Uktraine, the patriots in Ukraine are DEFENDING the capital.

It does sort of make one realize just how stupid and silly the US has become (Yes I’m pointing at you Trump and Koch acolytes and anyone courting totalitarianism and the unwitting fools caught up in it all)

Ukrainian grandmas armed and ready to give their lives to defend their country and families facing an actual real danger willing to defend their democracy and country. And normal Citizens in Russia willing to go to jail or worse living under a dictator but still protesting what their government, and not a swastika in sight. Really really brings home how absolutely stupid the right wing nuts in this country have become and how they are trying to drag good and decent people lives down. It also can’t help but be reminded of the images from Jan 6 from the capital that were beamed around the world. What a contrast. Wow!

Ugh with your stupid butt hurt wah I don’t want to wear a mask and you can’t make me, ban books that run counter to my personal beliefs, grievances and your stupid sons taking your families weapons stash to movie theaters and kindergarten classrooms to shoot up little kids.

Well guess what this is what it looks like when you get what you want. This doesn’t end well for Ukraine but it really really doesn’t end well for Putin. Stop your histrionics. Button up and get it together. Sniveling fools. You are collectively sick and this country would be so much better off without you.

Rant over.

I would agree that "It does sort of make one realize just how stupid and silly the US has become."
But my opinion is far different from yours.

We have a military that is seemingly more interested in "equity" and "diversity training" than in actual combat readiness. We have a generation of woke progressives far more interested in proclaiming their pronouns than in doing actual service to their country. We have schools focusing on race and promoting sexual content to children instead of teaching content children need to learn in order to be successful, productive citizens. We have social media companies deciding who to censor because of "fake news" yet these same companies won't censor the actual accounts of dictators and tyrants. And, let's not even get started on the whole notion that a man can be pregnant. If you want to discuss histrionics and "getting it together," maybe we should start with the insane issues that we have been forced to focus on. Yes, indeed, there are things far more important that pronouns or diversity training or what color a person is who is hired or which of the 72 genders one belongs to.

And, if anyone dares to object to such things, they are labeled as tranphobic or white supremacist or racist or some other "ist."

And, then we have a White House that promotes silly Tik Tok videos, focuses on identity politics in their hiring, and promotes itself for being the "first" for really, really ridiculous things. (first transgender hire, first drag queen hire, etc., etc.)

So, yes, the US looks pretty silly when you take all this into consideration. Especially when you see the courage and resolve of the Ukrainian people.

Wow, you’re a POS. You have shamed our country and our armed forces. Feel free to move on over to Russia, they also have pretty strong feelings about gender and sex issues over there. Their military is so strong, they have to conscript children and lie to them about what they are being sent to do. Their people have it together so much, they imprison anyone who steps out of line and bans entire categories of alternate thought. Their orphanages are filled with the best and brightest of children.

Some of us believe we are better and stronger for our diversity. We outnumber you. And yeah, we won’t hesitate to call you out for what you are and let you know your viewpoint is no longer welcome here. But like I said, you’d be at home in Russia so feel free to head over there, if you can find a flight or a boat that can manage to get between here and there right now.

Oh, honey. There is nothing wrong with diversity. But obsessing and focusing on diversity at the expense of far more important issues is short-sighted and just plain stupid.
You don't see the people of Ukraine worried about their preferred pronouns or the gender identity of those fighting for their country.
This country has become obsessed with issues that are trivial and in many cases absurd.
And, no... I will not be heading to Russia or any other country. Born and raised in the US. I plan to stay and yes, I will continue to fight to make THIS country the best it can be,

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t Russia cut off all internet and mobile comms and blanket the country in jammers?

How are mobile phones and internet still working in Ukraine ?

What kind of pre-invasion tactics are these?

Hubris pure and simple. They thought this would be much easier and over sooner

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t Russia cut off all internet and mobile comms and blanket the country in jammers?

How are mobile phones and internet still working in Ukraine ?

What kind of pre-invasion tactics are these?

Hubris pure and simple. They thought this would be much easier and over sooner

I honestly think dcum posters could’ve planned a better invasion.

Between dod, state dept, ic posters on here and neurotic wine moms that are super tight schedulers etc.

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Y'all, at the moment, Biden has played this as well as possible. Putin is isolated, traditionally neutral countries are rallying, and the global community is responding.

If the world comes out of this with the message that humans can come together to do good things, and strenthen global and instituationalism it will be a win for the planet.

GOP can rally on about the libs and Biden being old or whatever, but it is entirely possible the US and the small L liberalism get a huge boost.

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Western allies are forming a joint task force to "collectively hunt down the physical assets of sanctioned Russian companies and oligarchs — their yachts, jets, fancy cars and luxury homes."

Omg….posters should round up and head to rich Russian neighbors they suspect.

[Anonymous]

Why do the Russians love "Londongrad" as a PP upthread said? I don't think of London as having any of the flashy stuff that Russian oligarchs love, so why do they flock to London? Is there some advantage in the banking or real estate system?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t Russia cut off all internet and mobile comms and blanket the country in jammers?

How are mobile phones and internet still working in Ukraine ?

What kind of pre-invasion tactics are these?

Hubris pure and simple. They thought this would be much easier and over sooner

I honestly think dcum posters could’ve planned a better invasion.

Between dod, state dept, ic posters on here and neurotic wine moms that are super tight schedulers etc.

Travel baseball moms from the DC metro area could easily defeat Putin and his troops. Nobody coordinates better than travel sports moms. And men blindly follow their orders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why didn’t Russia cut off all internet and mobile comms and blanket the country in jammers?

How are mobile phones and internet still working in Ukraine ?

What kind of pre-invasion tactics are these?

Hubris pure and simple. They thought this would be much easier and over sooner

I honestly think dcum posters could’ve planned a better invasion.

Between dod, state dept, ic posters on here and neurotic wine moms that are super tight schedulers etc.

Travel baseball moms from the DC metro area could easily defeat Putin and his troops. Nobody coordinates better than travel sports moms. And men blindly follow their orders.

Thank you PP! The mental image of DCUM moms (travel baseball, travel sports, sports, etc) mobilizing their group chats and nailing logistics while their "minions" obey brings levity to a serious series of events.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why do the Russians love "Londongrad" as a PP upthread said? I don't think of London as having any of the flashy stuff that Russian oligarchs love, so why do they flock to London? Is there some advantage in the banking or real estate system?

UK is the money-laundering capital of the world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do the Russians love "Londongrad" as a PP upthread said? I don't think of London as having any of the flashy stuff that Russian oligarchs love, so why do they flock to London? Is there some advantage in the banking or real estate system?

UK is the money-laundering capital of the world.

Can anyone explain or give some context to this I don’t fully understand

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Anonymous wrote:Ukraine seems to have a lot less overweight people in their regular population.

More of them seem to be in “fighting shape” than we are.

I don’t think public mobilization could happen here.

You could be right, but I don't think being in "fighting shape" is the reason why.

Overweight people aren't nearly the same level of problem as the number of Americans who admire authoritarians like Putin.