Superintendent's Recommendation for Richard Montgomery ES #5 Boundaries

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





It's always been about rich folks having bigger voice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





Wow . so much noise from RP. I was giving them benefit of doubt earlier, now I am getting more sure that this all drama is just to not have any FARMs kids from other side of 270. I didn't realize when they start and how many other buses are starting even earlier.


LOL.

All those busses are moving to the new RM5 with shorter bus trips and the one that isn't in one projection is going further to RM5. Nice try though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





It's always been about rich folks having bigger voice.


I am from CG and I was supporting Fallsgrove earlier. Their claim made it sound as if they have the longest bus rides. I guess everyone needs to have some perspective.

One parent even said earlier in this long thread that his kid takes bus to attend PEP program and that ride was much longer than any Falls grove kids. I saw no reply for that.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





Wow . so much noise from RP. I was giving them benefit of doubt earlier, now I am getting more sure that this all drama is just to not have any FARMs kids from other side of 270. I didn't realize when they start and how many other buses are starting even earlier.


LOL.

All those busses are moving to the new RM5 with shorter bus trips and the one that isn't in one projection is going further to RM5. Nice try though.


I guess logic went over your head. No one said anything about they are not moving, but listening to all the rant form Fallsgrove made it look like they are suffering worst in RM cluster. Clearly, many have a much longer ride, but no one speaks for them. That was the point.

.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.

















this post is stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





Wow . so much noise from RP. I was giving them benefit of doubt earlier, now I am getting more sure that this all drama is just to not have any FARMs kids from other side of 270. I didn't realize when they start and how many other buses are starting even earlier.


LOL.

All those busses are moving to the new RM5 with shorter bus trips and the one that isn't in one projection is going further to RM5. Nice try though.


+1

Also B3 was the furthest and will now be right across the street to RM5. B1 is now walkable as well as RP2. They all have shorter commute times.

One more thing. Beall busses run the bus stops for CG tier 2 so some drop off earlier to get to the next set of bus stops to arrive at CG on time. It does not mean their commute was longer. We live right across the street from the school and the bus starts st 8:20am, arrives at the school by 8:40am even though school starts at 9:00pm. He then leaves and goes to the next set of bus stops.

So starting times do not always equate longer driving times.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





Wow . so much noise from RP. I was giving them benefit of doubt earlier, now I am getting more sure that this all drama is just to not have any FARMs kids from other side of 270. I didn't realize when they start and how many other buses are starting even earlier.


LOL.

All those busses are moving to the new RM5 with shorter bus trips and the one that isn't in one projection is going further to RM5. Nice try though.


I guess logic went over your head. No one said anything about they are not moving, but listening to all the rant form Fallsgrove made it look like they are suffering worst in RM cluster. Clearly, many have a much longer ride, but no one speaks for them. That was the point.

.


Why would anyone speak for them. They are getting a walkable brand new school instead of getting bussed to Beall. They are happy!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





Wow . so much noise from RP. I was giving them benefit of doubt earlier, now I am getting more sure that this all drama is just to not have any FARMs kids from other side of 270. I didn't realize when they start and how many other buses are starting even earlier.


You realize that bus start times are based on 1. where the bus is coming from before it goes to the elementary school stops (many have drop offs at Julius West and RM first) and 2. whether there are multiple stops on the route. It's not as simple as earliest bus pick up = farthest commute

There are 5 different buses that service Fallsgrove - they all have different pick up times listed even though the neighborhood is not very different in terms of travel time to the school (my child's bus sometimes doesn't arrive until after 8:30 due to earlier pick ups at Julius West and traffic getting to fallsgrove).
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





Wow . so much noise from RP. I was giving them benefit of doubt earlier, now I am getting more sure that this all drama is just to not have any FARMs kids from other side of 270. I didn't realize when they start and how many other buses are starting even earlier.

And which of those Beall buses will now have a shorter commute with the new ES, while FG would have a longer one?
Anonymous
Here is two bus time for Fallsmead.

Route: 5313 - FALLSMEAD ES (GREEN) - 8:07 A.M.


Route: 5311 - FALLSMEAD ES (GOLD) - 8:15 AM


Every single school has much longer route than Falls grove.

I am not saying that it's a good idea to spend long time in bus. But RP should pipe down this Fallsgrove kids having the worst n terms to travel talk. In MCPS there are plenty of routes taking much longer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





It's always been about rich folks having bigger voice.


I am from CG and I was supporting Fallsgrove earlier. Their claim made it sound as if they have the longest bus rides. I guess everyone needs to have some perspective.

One parent even said earlier in this long thread that his kid takes bus to attend PEP program and that ride was much longer than any Falls grove kids. I saw no reply for that.



There is a difference between a bus ride to PEP or the HGC or other specialty programs and a bus ride to a local school. That's why no one responded. The comparison wasn't valid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.

















this post is stupid.



i’d like to reiterate that this post is stupid.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why so much hue and cry for Fallsgrove? It's not as if they have longest bus ride in MCPS. Plenty of routes take longer. You don't have to look even outside of RM cluster.


RP first stop in Fallsgove is at - Route: 5120 - RITCHIE PARK ES (SILVER) - 8:18 AM



I think high income parents are able to make so much noise as if no other kids take a long bus ride. Otherwise, just take a look at some of the bus routes starting within RM cluster for Beall elementary.

Here is start time for some Beall elementary,

BEALL ES (PURPLE GRAPES) - 8:15 AM

BEALL ES (BLACK CAT) - 8:09 AM

BEALL ES (GREEN SHAMROCK) - 8:15 AM


How many posters here raised issue for those kids? I guess none because those kids are not rich kids and don't attend RP.





Wow . so much noise from RP. I was giving them benefit of doubt earlier, now I am getting more sure that this all drama is just to not have any FARMs kids from other side of 270. I didn't realize when they start and how many other buses are starting even earlier.


LOL.

All those busses are moving to the new RM5 with shorter bus trips and the one that isn't in one projection is going further to RM5. Nice try though.


I guess logic went over your head. No one said anything about they are not moving, but listening to all the rant form Fallsgrove made it look like they are suffering worst in RM cluster. Clearly, many have a much longer ride, but no one speaks for them. That was the point.

.


And what is the travel time for students on those buses now? It's not about bus pick up time, it's travel time. Are they 4 miles away from Beall (serious question, I have no idea)?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's unrealistic to think there's going to be 8 out of 24 students who are FARMs in a given classroom.

You don't seem to understand the concept of average.
Anonymous
Numbers are a funny thing.

If you send RP5 to their closest school, you could close Ritchie Park completely send all the kids from RP to ES#5 and still be under capacity there.

Board should look into that option instead of wasting money for the unnecessary ES school in RM cluster.

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