Malaysia Airlines Flight Goes Missing En Route to China

Anonymous
According to Reuters, a Slovenian airplane had to make an emergency landing on Tuesday because a ringing mobile phone had corrupted an electronics system and caused a fire-on-board light to switch on.

Adria Airways admitted the plane bound for Sarajevo turned back shortly after take-off and made an emergency landing in Ljubljana. The airline said it had been caused by a phone in the luggage compartment that had been left on.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/01/11/mobile_phone_brings_down_slovenian/

Another older one. With all the shit CNN is putting on the air why have they not produced an experts on this yet? It like autopilot- yes, false emergency lights-yes, etc
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Found this, but it old so maybe it's true?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2001926/Your-mobile-phone-REALLY-make-planes-crash-leaked-air-transport-study-reveals.html


Daily Mail + true = does not compute
Anonymous
I have trouble with this because I think there are so many flights and passengers over the years…so many people breaking the rules or accidentally leaving their phones on.

Also just in the last couple of months there was all this news about how the industry was going to let passengers keep the electronics on at take off/landing. Just seems so weird.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I have trouble with this because I think there are so many flights and passengers over the years…so many people breaking the rules or accidentally leaving their phones on.

Also just in the last couple of months there was all this news about how the industry was going to let passengers keep the electronics on at take off/landing. Just seems so weird.


I've accidentally left my phone on when I've flown. Right after I got my iPhone, it didn't even dawn on me that I had to power it down. I just assumed it was off when it went to sleep.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:They are reporting now that it looks like a cell phone that was on left caused the autopilot malfunction. Wow...just wow.


You got to be kidding, right?
I believe up to 50% of passengers leave their phones on, either accidentally or they absolutely do not care, or believe they know better.
The recent reports that cell phones could be allowed to stay on are not helping with that trend.
I have read that pilots say it does interfere with their communication briefly, like , for a split second they are interrupted with ATC, one pilot mentioned that in regards to take off communication with the tower. It is like they miss half a syllable of what was said. With all the foreign languages and accents involved better not to miss anything I think! Enough reason for me to always turn it off or put it into airplane mode.
However, I had read this some time ago, and was under the impression that newer planes (especially the 777) were (more or totally?) immune against this.

Therefore I really cannot believe this! Nor the Lithium battery story! These batteries are everywhere, every phone, every computer.

If either cell phones or lithium batteries can bring a modern plane down - I mean down, not just loosing a blip in communications (that's bad enough) I don't know how I can fly again!
Anonymous
They are reporting now that it looks like a cell phone that was on left caused the autopilot malfunction. Wow...just wow.


You got to be kidding, right?
I believe up to 50% of passengers leave their phones on, either accidentally or they absolutely do not care, or believe they know better.
The recent reports that cell phones could be allowed to stay on are not helping with that trend.
I have read that pilots say it does interfere with their communication briefly, like , for a split second they are interrupted with ATC, one pilot mentioned that in regards to take off communication with the tower. It is like they miss half a syllable of what was said. With all the foreign languages and accents involved better not to miss anything I think! Enough reason for me to always turn it off or put it into airplane mode.
However, I had read this some time ago, and was under the impression that newer planes (especially the 777) were (more or totally?) immune against this.

Therefore I really cannot believe this! Nor the Lithium battery story! These batteries are everywhere, every phone, every computer.

If either cell phones or lithium batteries can bring a modern plane down - I mean down, not just loosing a blip in communications (that's bad enough) I don't know how I can fly again!

Look up lithium and water videos. Also read the link storied about cell phone and autopilot.
Anonymous
I bet they find stuff today(our night).
Anonymous
If the plane dove head first into the water, I wonder if there would be any debris? Would it just dive straight into the depths, leaving no trace? I guess the point of impact would still break up the plane though and things would rise to the surface. I'm just wondering if there is a particular angle where the plane could penetrate the surface and stay intact.

Or maybe the plane glided and made a safe landing on the water and floated for a while, but then sank intact before the life rafts could be deployed? So no debris.
Anonymous
Morning update: Chinese and Australian search planes have seen several large objects. Al Jazeera reporter is tweeting that a ship was near and may be able to retrieve some of the objects:


ANDREW THOMAS ?@AlJazSydANDREW 5m
We saw smoke flares dropped, gps locators too. HMAS Success was v close and will be trying to find and bring inboard objects now #mh370

ANDREW THOMAS ?@AlJazSydANDREW 21m
Despite reports to contrary, I can confirm 5 objects seen by crew, 4 'confirmed' (seen by 2+ people) and 2 photographed. #mh370

ANDREW THOMAS ?@AlJazSydANDREW 25m
I was only journalist on Rescue flight 104 which saw objects on sea which may be connected with #mh370 Lots more to come on #aje
Anonymous
07:33 where is your link? Would love to follow it.

18:04 the lithium issue is real, I think. I believe it's a real issue because on PPRuNe.org, the pilot's blog website that has been following this issue, there have been a bunch of pilot posts about how incredibly dangerous the lithium battery situation is and how they are onboard every flight, and how this has to change. One of their running theories is that the batteries (which were in the cargo hold) caught fire and the plane's sharp turn to the left (west) would be the pilot's logical response because the closest land-able runway is there.

Also, the Malaysian authorities changed their timeline story again (I think on Sunday but the news didn't filter out until Monday) and this change makes the plane in distress scenario more likely and pilot hijacking less likely. So all that brainpower, speculation, and search resources wasted because they read the info wrong.

I know the Malays have been trying, but I do blame them for being way over their heads and not handing info off faster to countries like US who can interpret data.

Anonymous
Al Jazeera reporter is @AlJazSydANDREW on twitter or just search the #mh370 hashtag.

Here's a good Reuters article with a summary of today's search -
http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/24/us-malaysiaairlines-flight-idUSBREA2701720140324
Anonymous
ANDREW THOMAS ?@AlJazSydANDREW 6m
Malaysian PM holding unexpected press conf in 1 hour. Whether connected to the objects we saw today in embed unclear, but it sounds serious
Anonymous
PPRuNe reports that the Malaysian PM is going to make an announcement at 2pm UTC time.

Right now it's 9:14am EST and it's 1:14pm UTC time. So we add 4 hours to get to UTC time.

So we're talking 10am EST. (Correct me if I got that wrong)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:PPRuNe reports that the Malaysian PM is going to make an announcement at 2pm UTC time.

Right now it's 9:14am EST and it's 1:14pm UTC time. So we add 4 hours to get to UTC time.

So we're talking 10am EST. (Correct me if I got that wrong)


The PM has requested a meeting with the families first (at 10pm Malaysian time, 10am EST) - they must have verified debris from the plane. I can't imagine he'd meet with them so late if it were something else.
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