Meant to say you're right, and I have no idea why I keep coming back |
Didn't he stop the abuse? |
The perverts don't stop until they get caught red handed and thrown in jail. Haven't you noticed? |
I think it is very serious what happened, I also think it was handled properly.
I think the molestation that took place for a year was awful, I also think it was mild compared to what some are making it out to be. I like the Duggars. I can think differently from them and still enjoy their show. |
The "just over the clothes" and just for a few minutes piece- was that disputed by the released reports of what they were reporting at the time? That is my big question in this. Is there actual lying and covering up of facts going on in these interviews? If that's the case, it makes a despicable situation even more unbearable in my mind. Being able to create your own narrative over facts is troubling in the abstract, in practice here it is so sad and horrible (if true). |
I'm disgusted just thinking of my brother touching me in any sexual way, yet you refer to it as mild?? Seriously? I highly doubt you'd say that if your own brother fondled your breasts and genitals. |
Yes, the limited touching that took place here is mild compared to rape and decades of incestuous sexual assault. If my own brother fondled me over my clothing while I slept I would hope my parents would get both of us help. I would not however compare it to what happens when someone is raped, penetrated, repeatedly sexually assaulted or the like. |
That plus a couple instances while awake and briefly under the clothing. It has not been disputed by the police reports. They covered it all in the 3 part interview. |
Both times he came forward and told on himself. |
We can deal in hypotheticals all day long or we can take the word of the now adult victims. Instead we are doubting them and calling them stupid and brainwashed. How kind. |
Your first mistake is in thinking we think they're stupid and brainwashed. Your second mistake is in not seeing their cult programming for what it is: minimize anything that will damage first their church or second their brand. Sexual crimes by men and boys are minimized, ignored, blamed on the victim, especially if they're female. These women were abused twice - first by their brother, and second by their parents' inexcusable inaction. For over a year until the "safeguards" - after which the five year old was sexually assaulted, mind you - were finally put into place. |
That was said upthread. |
Then we should definitely throw Josh in jail FOREVER and rip Jessa, Jill and the three others away from their lives for deprogramming. Then lets put the other 14 children into the CPS system and put JimBob and Michelle on house arrest. Because f*ck this is the worst situation to happen EVER. Or we could realize this happened over a decade ago and was dealt with and not a single victim has come out saying they were irreparably damaged or recently felt up by Josh. |
I'm confused as to why you think it's appropriate to take a molester's word at face value. You do know that many of them lie to cover up or minimize their activities, right? |
First of all, those are 2 of the 5 victims. And one of them was 5 at the time. So, pardon me for not finding this reassuring. Even if their portrayal is accurate, it still doesn't answer the question for the other 3 victims. And they can be very smart people and still be brainwashed, or convinced to go along with the family because the consequences of not doing so would be losing their entire world -- their family. |