Why do kids seem to be driving later than they used to "back in the day"?

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Anonymous wrote:Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill.

Using UBER is a life skill

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how much car insurance is now for your teenage son? My son is about to get his learner’s permit and I haven’t called for a quote from State Farm.

$1000 more a year.

+1, about the same/little more from Geico with the "good student discount" applied. We didn't get a hike with the learner's permit though, but it came with the license (hence the reason people say they are dragging it out).

+ 1, also with Geico and we added a car. The increase for him as a driver came when he was a licensed driver, not during the learner's permit phase. The real savings come from bundling and the parents' good driving history. The "good student discount" is pennies in comparison.

PP--yes, we bundle with Geico too (home, auto, liability) have our own 10-15% discounts through memberships and an impeccable driver history (no claims, no tickets). It keeps our insurance fairly low, but didn't seem to have an impact on teen driver cost--the good student is like a 10% discount? We didn't add a car, but we already had 3 for 2 drivers (ridiculous, but we were gifted a used car from my folks for when DC got his license). He's been on our insurance a few years now and the rates haven't gone down at all for him despite no tickets/accidents.

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Anonymous wrote:Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill.

Who’s “Our”?

The family our kids were 13-17.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how much car insurance is now for your teenage son? My son is about to get his learner’s permit and I haven’t called for a quote from State Farm.

$1000 more a year.

+1, about the same/little more from Geico with the "good student discount" applied. We didn't get a hike with the learner's permit though, but it came with the license (hence the reason people say they are dragging it out).

+ 1, also with Geico and we added a car. The increase for him as a driver came when he was a licensed driver, not during the learner's permit phase. The real savings come from bundling and the parents' good driving history. The "good student discount" is pennies in comparison.

Parents record is pretty spotless so insurance rather low considering.

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Anonymous wrote:Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill.

Using UBER is a life skill

People really do say the dumbest things.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill.

Using UBER is a life skill

People really do say the dumbest things.

DP: I think it's a contemporary life skill--one that is cheaper than owning, insuring and parking a car if you live in an urban area (like this forum title...) Not just using the app, but having sense about how to feel safe about drivers-what you should look for, how to predict times, how to choose timing for a good cost etc. Older people--who are thinking of uber and the like when they can no longer drive--often have a very hard time understanding how to use it. I have an aunt who will ask me to set it up for her when she needs it for medical appts. and the like.

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Anonymous wrote:Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill.

Who’s “Our”?

The family our kids were 13-17.

Who’s paying the bill?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill.

Using UBER is a life skill

Using public transit is a life skill.

Riding a bicycle is a life skill.

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I don’t understand the parents who let their minor children (that means under 18) take Uber or Lyft. It’s a violation of the terms of service and the driver is supposed to refuse the ride and report the child. They must be accompanied by a parent or guardian 18 or older.

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Anonymous wrote:Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill.

Using UBER is a life skill

Troll

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how much car insurance is now for your teenage son? My son is about to get his learner’s permit and I haven’t called for a quote from State Farm.

675 more a year.

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Anonymous wrote:I forced or strongly encouraged mine to get their license as soon as possible. While they were still young in HS and under my control. I think it is easier fir younger people to pick up the skills and get them embedded when they are still teens.
Teaching them around DCUM is nerve wracking but at least you still have some control. Learning later I feared maybe they would hit the freeway without a clue how dangerous that can be.
Also I see these kids who are 19 or 20 be so embarrassed that they put it off and put it off. No parent handy to say take the car and practice. It’s like they outgrew the parents but didn’t get the skills.

Most parents do not teach skills. I learned how to change my own oil, tires, air filters, etc.. I washed my own cars, learned a lot of indoor and outdoor chores. Learned how to use power tools, actually mowed the lawn, etc... I am female.

Most teens do not even work a PT job and I know plenty of those unemployed teens whose family pay for lawn service instead of having their capable kids to do it. They probably pay for roadside assistance, housekeeper, etc...

Most 19yr old are embarrassing book smart only.

All that is great and good to know. But it doesn’t lead to having a valid drivers license or knowing road skills safety. That is what is being taught or learned (or not learned) in the driving and DL process. Power tools and lawn mowing do not get you through the DMV.

I was driving a golf cart at the age of 13. I was a caddy for a county golf course

I also mowed lawns on a ride-on mower in rural PA

Drove a few tractors on a friends farm.

All of them very much prepared me to drive

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Anonymous wrote:I already point our driving tips, traffic sign meanings, rules of the road, etc., while driving with my 11 yo. I've started asking her to help me navigate. My mom did the same with me. It will be her choice when you wants to get her license, but I think it's important for her to know how to drive as a teenager, including learning how to drive a manual car. It's a life skill, and even if she lives in a city with public transportation for the rest of her life, I want her to be capable. I don't want her to ever feel entirely reliant on Lyft/Uber, peer drivers, or other parents.

Lol this sounds like it was written in 1993. Nobody "navigates anymore" - everyone under 50 uses Waze. Manual transmission already does not exist on almost any good performance cars anymore (where manual is most likely to be an option) and major brands have already stated their intention to drop manual transmissions from most cars (even in Europe!). Only 2% of cars have manual transmission and even that is shrinking. 5 years from now it will all be self-driving electric cars. I agree, knowing how to drive a car is a good skill to have, but "navigating" and "stick shift" have already not been things for a decade

Yes, navigate by using Google Maps, Waze, or our car's GPS. She enters the address, previews the route, etc. Also, I'm farsighted, so sometimes I'll have her tell me where to go if I don't have my glasses or feel like wearing them.

Manual transmissions are still dominate in Europe, and in the U.S., several sports cars and Jeep models are still made with stick shifts. Plus, they're more fuel efficient and fun to drive. It's also easier to learn to drive a motorcycle if you already know how to drive a manual car. I've driven and done all of these things.

To each their own, I guess. Not sure why this triggered you so much that you felt the need to be snotty.

Many cars that are manual now here have to be special order. Jeeps generally are automatic except by special order.

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Anonymous wrote:I already point our driving tips, traffic sign meanings, rules of the road, etc., while driving with my 11 yo. I've started asking her to help me navigate. My mom did the same with me. It will be her choice when you wants to get her license, but I think it's important for her to know how to drive as a teenager, including learning how to drive a manual car. It's a life skill, and even if she lives in a city with public transportation for the rest of her life, I want her to be capable. I don't want her to ever feel entirely reliant on Lyft/Uber, peer drivers, or other parents.

Lol this sounds like it was written in 1993. Nobody "navigates anymore" - everyone under 50 uses Waze. Manual transmission already does not exist on almost any good performance cars anymore (where manual is most likely to be an option) and major brands have already stated their intention to drop manual transmissions from most cars (even in Europe!). Only 2% of cars have manual transmission and even that is shrinking. 5 years from now it will all be self-driving electric cars. I agree, knowing how to drive a car is a good skill to have, but "navigating" and "stick shift" have already not been things for a decade

Yes, navigate by using Google Maps, Waze, or our car's GPS. She enters the address, previews the route, etc. Also, I'm farsighted, so sometimes I'll have her tell me where to go if I don't have my glasses or feel like wearing them.

Manual transmissions are still dominate in Europe, and in the U.S., several sports cars and Jeep models are still made with stick shifts. Plus, they're more fuel efficient and fun to drive. It's also easier to learn to drive a motorcycle if you already know how to drive a manual car. I've driven and done all of these things.

To each their own, I guess. Not sure why this triggered you so much that you felt the need to be snotty.

Many cars that are manual now here have to be special order. Jeeps generally are automatic except by special order.

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