Yup x1000! My almost 17-year-old says he doesn’t need to drive anywhere because he can just text or call his friends. Most of his friends also feel the same way. Our rule has become that he has to get his license before he leaves for college. He just recently told us that he’d like to get his permit on his 17th birthday (I think a couple of his friends have gone and decided to go ahead and get their licenses). I actually have a friend who did not get her drivers license till she got married in her 30s. Turns out she had tried when she was 16 and the instructor scared her to death. So she just never went back. |
| Mine want to drive. Lyft and Uber get expensive and they like the idea of having the freedom. It’s not relegated to the 80s. They think it’s one of the highlights of getting older. |
They can online game and hang out with their friends, so getting together in person isn't, or doesn't seem, as important, I suppose. |
Having my kid bike on the streets and learning the signs and rules of the road checked this box. And as a PP noted, having them sit in the front seat, while pointing things out and helping to navigate all helped too. |
$1000 more a year. |
How much more do you pay in insurance and gas as compared to the Uber and Lyft costs? |
| Our Uber bill was insane. Driving a car is a life skill. |
Car bills are insane. |
Who’s “Our”? |
Ours was 1/2 the coat of insurance… it’s ours because kids can afford it and I don’t want them in my house all weekend or stressed out their designated driver drank and they can’t afford an Uber. |
Our insurance went up 200% when my oldest got his drivers license. He's 18 now and it's come down a bit, but I'm not eager for my 16-year-old get a license. Because of COVID, we weren't able to get a DMV appointment for the permit test until the end of this month. I'm going to try to drag the process out as long as possible. |
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Getting your license is a big responsibility that kids should have to deal with while still at home. They have to study for their written to prepare for their permit, driving you to the grocery store and school for six months or more and then take the drivers test. Its less about expecting a new car with a red bow in the driveway and more about them taking that first small step into adulthood. Not to mention, if they're out somewhere with friends and they're the only one that can drive for whatever reason, you want them to be equipped to do so.
My sibling waited to get their license until they were in their mid-20's and they were the stereotypical failure to start. I'm not saying its BECAUSE they didnt get their license, I just believe that to be the first of many things that kids don't want to deal with and parents don't want to push them to do. |
Yes, navigate by using Google Maps, Waze, or our car's GPS. She enters the address, previews the route, etc. Also, I'm farsighted, so sometimes I'll have her tell me where to go if I don't have my glasses or feel like wearing them. Manual transmissions are still dominate in Europe, and in the U.S., several sports cars and Jeep models are still made with stick shifts. Plus, they're more fuel efficient and fun to drive. It's also easier to learn to drive a motorcycle if you already know how to drive a manual car. I've driven and done all of these things. To each their own, I guess. Not sure why this triggered you so much that you felt the need to be snotty. |
+1, about the same/little more from Geico with the "good student discount" applied. We didn't get a hike with the learner's permit though, but it came with the license (hence the reason people say they are dragging it out). |
+ 1, also with Geico and we added a car. The increase for him as a driver came when he was a licensed driver, not during the learner's permit phase. The real savings come from bundling and the parents' good driving history. The "good student discount" is pennies in comparison. |