APS - getting nervous

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kids went in-person, including lunch inside, all last year. Not shut down one day. You all need to calm down. Your poor kids.

So did mine. Pulled them out and put them in a private school which they are going to this year as well. That being said I’m really nervous. Delta changes the equation when it comes to spread. This virus is much more contagious.

Also pulled my kids for private last year and so happy we committed to stay again this year. I am much more nervous though. I’m just coming to terms with the idea that my kids will likely get COVID. My DH and I are both vaxxed as are all the eligible people in our family. I do worry but my kids need (real) school. I’d even be okay with no masks if they’re not going to require n95. Someone on of the Sunday shows described cloth masks as trying to keep water out of a submarine with a screen door. N95s or it’s all for show. I doubt APS would require them because of equity concerns.

A reasonable compromise on the whole masking debate is schools provide KN95/N95s to students who want them and masks are optional. A number of major scientists (Osterholm, Gounder) are saying that since COVID is aerosols (more research came out this week), cloth masks really do hardly anything, especially when you're going to be sitting in a room with the same group of people all day. Gounder had a good chart on her Twitter page, showing the limited protection cloths masks provide vs. N95s. The comparison I hear was a cloth mask is like the protection a chain link fence provides when sand is thrown at it.

If you're worried about a child getting COVID at school, it's KN95 or N95. I'm personally not worried (as shown by the research, my healthy child will get at worst a cold).

Most comments like the above seem to be based on old information. From most of the news I have read, Delta does seem to have a more severe effect on children. Children can have long haul symptoms, and if Delta is more severe, I think it’s reasonable to assume the risk of long covid is higher as well. My kids need to be in school, but I am nervous to have them there without social distancing. Covid is a moving target, the evidence increasingly suggests Delta this fall is not the same As Covid last spring. The insistence that kids are immune is like willful ignorance, and the statement that parents aren’t worried bc it’s just a cold blows my mind - how many unvaccinated adults are quoted saying this then ending up in the ICU w delta? Kids should definitely be masked, schools should provide kn95 and make every effort to keep kids outside or from congregating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kids went in-person, including lunch inside, all last year. Not shut down one day. You all need to calm down. Your poor kids.

So did mine. Pulled them out and put them in a private school which they are going to this year as well. That being said I’m really nervous. Delta changes the equation when it comes to spread. This virus is much more contagious.

Also pulled my kids for private last year and so happy we committed to stay again this year. I am much more nervous though. I’m just coming to terms with the idea that my kids will likely get COVID. My DH and I are both vaxxed as are all the eligible people in our family. I do worry but my kids need (real) school. I’d even be okay with no masks if they’re not going to require n95. Someone on of the Sunday shows described cloth masks as trying to keep water out of a submarine with a screen door. N95s or it’s all for show. I doubt APS would require them because of equity concerns.

A reasonable compromise on the whole masking debate is schools provide KN95/N95s to students who want them and masks are optional. A number of major scientists (Osterholm, Gounder) are saying that since COVID is aerosols (more research came out this week), cloth masks really do hardly anything, especially when you're going to be sitting in a room with the same group of people all day. Gounder had a good chart on her Twitter page, showing the limited protection cloths masks provide vs. N95s. The comparison I hear was a cloth mask is like the protection a chain link fence provides when sand is thrown at it.

If you're worried about a child getting COVID at school, it's KN95 or N95. I'm personally not worried (as shown by the research, my healthy child will get at worst a cold).

Most comments like the above seem to be based on old information. From most of the news I have read, Delta does seem to have a more severe effect on children. Children can have long haul symptoms, and if Delta is more severe, I think it’s reasonable to assume the risk of long covid is higher as well. My kids need to be in school, but I am nervous to have them there without social distancing. Covid is a moving target, the evidence increasingly suggests Delta this fall is not the same As Covid last spring. The insistence that kids are immune is like willful ignorance, and the statement that parents aren’t worried bc it’s just a cold blows my mind - how many unvaccinated adults are quoted saying this then ending up in the ICU w delta? Kids should definitely be masked, schools should provide kn95 and make every effort to keep kids outside or from congregating.

I've been seeing more infectious, so higher numbers, but not more dangerous for any given infection.

[Anonymous]

If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

[Anonymous]

I mean, six percent of americans also think they could win a fight with a grizzly bear, so optimism has never been lacking on our shores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

[Anonymous]

I hope they stay in person with masks and distancing. Virtual was a disaster for my kid. The teacher didn’t teach, just showed videos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

Before full-fledged in-person school in Northern Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

Before full-fledged in-person school in Northern Virginia.

At least the public schools…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

My whole family including kids are vaccinated so we hope to avoid the worst of this, but I think it's folly to look at kids in ICU wards and not see that Delta can easily mean very serious consequences for kids who aren't vaccinated whereas a year ago such results were anamolous. Still I keep seeing comments online from people who aren't concerned at all either because they haven't reckoned with the deadliness of the Delta strain at all or because they are simply in denial about the new surge it has been bringing. La la la la and meanwhile Florida and Louisiana are out there telling everyone out there "hey, hold my beer!" Sure, we haven't seen these numbers in Virginia yet, but those effects can easily and quickly creep north and east as people and kids come home from their summer camps and vacations (how many posts did I read in the Disney thread three months ago from parents making plans because things would be fine by now and planning to pretend their toddlers were younger than they really are to escape Disney's mask requirements? But I digress.).

Nevertheless, cheers and thanks for the stats; real facts are always helpful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

My whole family including kids are vaccinated so we hope to avoid the worst of this, but I think it's folly to look at kids in ICU wards and not see that Delta can easily mean very serious consequences for kids who aren't vaccinated whereas a year ago such results were anamolous. Still I keep seeing comments online from people who aren't concerned at all either because they haven't reckoned with the deadliness of the Delta strain at all or because they are simply in denial about the new surge it has been bringing. La la la la and meanwhile Florida and Louisiana are out there telling everyone out there "hey, hold my beer!" Sure, we haven't seen these numbers in Virginia yet, but those effects can easily and quickly creep north and east as people and kids come home from their summer camps and vacations (how many posts did I read in the Disney thread three months ago from parents making plans because things would be fine by now and planning to pretend their toddlers were younger than they really are to escape Disney's mask requirements? But I digress.).

Nevertheless, cheers and thanks for the stats; real facts are always helpful.

I don't think this upcoming year is going to be gloom and doom per Smart Restart, but I am preparing for quarantines to happen. I don't know why APS is waiting until Thursday for the final reveal. They should just release the information so that some of you can complain some more.

[Anonymous]

Eight percent of americans think they could beat a tiger in one to one combat (no weapons). It's a miracle any of us are still alive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

My whole family including kids are vaccinated so we hope to avoid the worst of this, but I think it's folly to look at kids in ICU wards and not see that Delta can easily mean very serious consequences for kids who aren't vaccinated whereas a year ago such results were anamolous. Still I keep seeing comments online from people who aren't concerned at all either because they haven't reckoned with the deadliness of the Delta strain at all or because they are simply in denial about the new surge it has been bringing. La la la la and meanwhile Florida and Louisiana are out there telling everyone out there "hey, hold my beer!" Sure, we haven't seen these numbers in Virginia yet, but those effects can easily and quickly creep north and east as people and kids come home from their summer camps and vacations (how many posts did I read in the Disney thread three months ago from parents making plans because things would be fine by now and planning to pretend their toddlers were younger than they really are to escape Disney's mask requirements? But I digress.).

Nevertheless, cheers and thanks for the stats; real facts are always helpful.

Ventilation woman and the panic porn brigade are at it again.

We were just at Disney World last week, maskless (except indoors where it's required). We go maskless here and have been maskless all summer (except where legally required), as is pretty much the majority of the United States (and Europe too since they don't mask kids under 12 there).

My kids also flew in a plane, rode in a car and went swimming in the ocean, lakes and pools. Those activities probably entailed more risk than COVID. Did we consider not doing them? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

My whole family including kids are vaccinated so we hope to avoid the worst of this, but I think it's folly to look at kids in ICU wards and not see that Delta can easily mean very serious consequences for kids who aren't vaccinated whereas a year ago such results were anamolous. Still I keep seeing comments online from people who aren't concerned at all either because they haven't reckoned with the deadliness of the Delta strain at all or because they are simply in denial about the new surge it has been bringing. La la la la and meanwhile Florida and Louisiana are out there telling everyone out there "hey, hold my beer!" Sure, we haven't seen these numbers in Virginia yet, but those effects can easily and quickly creep north and east as people and kids come home from their summer camps and vacations (how many posts did I read in the Disney thread three months ago from parents making plans because things would be fine by now and planning to pretend their toddlers were younger than they really are to escape Disney's mask requirements? But I digress.).

Nevertheless, cheers and thanks for the stats; real facts are always helpful.

Ventilation woman and the panic porn brigade are at it again.

We were just at Disney World last week, maskless (except indoors where it's required). We go maskless here and have been maskless all summer (except where legally required), as is pretty much the majority of the United States (and Europe too since they don't mask kids under 12 there).

My kids also flew in a plane, rode in a car and went swimming in the ocean, lakes and pools. Those activities probably entailed more risk than COVID. Did we consider not doing them? No.

Yep and this is why we are where we are with rising numbers. thanks a bunch.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, I mean CDC is clocking about every Florida county rate of Covid transmission as "very high" whereas Northern Virginia has mostly been holding steady at "substantial" but I'm sure with your attitude we can get those numbers up like winners. https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#county-view

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it's not more dangerous for kids, then why are we seeing tweets about 12 kids in the emergency room in Texas or Florida where previously kids scraped through without even going to the hospital? We know it is certainly more dangerous for adults, and it seems unduly confident, given this other evidence, not to assume it is also more dangerous for kids, but I'd understand why parents want to believe everything is going to be fine.

Don't look for tweets to confirm your own anxiety. I'm not saying "everything is going to be fine," but it is important to remember that Twitter posts are designed to get lots and lots of clicks. Take a deep breath and evaluate your own situation.

Here are some numbers available at the VDH for children 0-9 years old:

25,572 total cases
296 kids hospitalized
2 deaths

My whole family including kids are vaccinated so we hope to avoid the worst of this, but I think it's folly to look at kids in ICU wards and not see that Delta can easily mean very serious consequences for kids who aren't vaccinated whereas a year ago such results were anamolous. Still I keep seeing comments online from people who aren't concerned at all either because they haven't reckoned with the deadliness of the Delta strain at all or because they are simply in denial about the new surge it has been bringing. La la la la and meanwhile Florida and Louisiana are out there telling everyone out there "hey, hold my beer!" Sure, we haven't seen these numbers in Virginia yet, but those effects can easily and quickly creep north and east as people and kids come home from their summer camps and vacations (how many posts did I read in the Disney thread three months ago from parents making plans because things would be fine by now and planning to pretend their toddlers were younger than they really are to escape Disney's mask requirements? But I digress.).

Nevertheless, cheers and thanks for the stats; real facts are always helpful.

Ventilation woman and the panic porn brigade are at it again.

We were just at Disney World last week, maskless (except indoors where it's required). We go maskless here and have been maskless all summer (except where legally required), as is pretty much the majority of the United States (and Europe too since they don't mask kids under 12 there).

My kids also flew in a plane, rode in a car and went swimming in the ocean, lakes and pools. Those activities probably entailed more risk than COVID. Did we consider not doing them? No.

Is it same person that keeps saying “panic porn” and “fear porn” all the time? Baby, you are “obsessed” porn. I worry about you. You need something else to do. This, too, shall pass.