Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

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Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

Oh good, we’re back to “it’s a panini” and no one has to do their jobs. I really look forward to when we’re 5 days a week in person in the fall and you can’t fall back on those old talking points anymore.

The governor of NJ has just said schools won’t be allowed to offer virtual options in the fall. So glad we can all dispense with the fiction that virtual school is school.

Sorry your kid can only learn in one way. My kid is doing awesome in DL. So are her teachers.

[Anonymous]

It's just wholly laughable that anyone is arguing that teachers can educate elementary school kids through screens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just wholly laughable that anyone is arguing that teachers can educate elementary school kids through screens.

Shockingly Australia and Alaska educated children through radio for generations.

[Anonymous]

Radio with textbooks would be preferable to google slides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

True. We all know many parents want in person school for various reasons. As a teacher, I care infinitely more about my safety than what you claim is most effective. If communities want school, then they can collectively stop participating in indoor dining and flying and otherwise spreading the virus. They won’t, though, so they must just not want it that much.

Stop gaslighting! NOTHING anyone does makes school more or less likely. I mean we were at very low case numbers this late summer and early fall and we still didn’t get school.

YOUR child’s school didn’t open. My district did, and did not close even when numbers were really bad this winter. Which is when and why I got a medical accommodation to work remotely and so did many of my colleagues. I’m not going to put my family at risk because you prefer in person learning during a global crisis. Not sorry. People whine and whine that teachers don’t want to be exposed to COVID without actually acknowledging that if the virus were under control we’d be in a different position. They seem to think that by threatening and insulting teachers they can just bully us into submission. It’s not going to work, even a year later. Grow up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

They are not. They are educating. "Supervision", as you appear to define it, is a tangential part of the job.

Said no teacher ever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

True. We all know many parents want in person school for various reasons. As a teacher, I care infinitely more about my safety than what you claim is most effective. If communities want school, then they can collectively stop participating in indoor dining and flying and otherwise spreading the virus. They won’t, though, so they must just not want it that much.

Stop gaslighting! NOTHING anyone does makes school more or less likely. I mean we were at very low case numbers this late summer and early fall and we still didn’t get school.

YOUR child’s school didn’t open. My district did, and did not close even when numbers were really bad this winter. Which is when and why I got a medical accommodation to work remotely and so did many of my colleagues. I’m not going to put my family at risk because you prefer in person learning during a global crisis. Not sorry. People whine and whine that teachers don’t want to be exposed to COVID without actually acknowledging that if the virus were under control we’d be in a different position. They seem to think that by threatening and insulting teachers they can just bully us into submission. It’s not going to work, even a year later. Grow up.

Right on- I hope you are able to continue working at home as long as needed. Maybe even permanently so you have a leg up on the next pandemic. Will be here before you know it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

True. We all know many parents want in person school for various reasons. As a teacher, I care infinitely more about my safety than what you claim is most effective. If communities want school, then they can collectively stop participating in indoor dining and flying and otherwise spreading the virus. They won’t, though, so they must just not want it that much.

Stop gaslighting! NOTHING anyone does makes school more or less likely. I mean we were at very low case numbers this late summer and early fall and we still didn’t get school.

YOUR child’s school didn’t open. My district did, and did not close even when numbers were really bad this winter. Which is when and why I got a medical accommodation to work remotely and so did many of my colleagues. I’m not going to put my family at risk because you prefer in person learning during a global crisis. Not sorry. People whine and whine that teachers don’t want to be exposed to COVID without actually acknowledging that if the virus were under control we’d be in a different position. They seem to think that by threatening and insulting teachers they can just bully us into submission. It’s not going to work, even a year later. Grow up.

Oh so you’re not even posting from this area and therefore your experience is totally different. Great. Go back to Utah Urban Moms or wherever.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

They are not. They are educating. "Supervision", as you appear to define it, is a tangential part of the job.

^^ here is a person who doesn't understand that schools have multiple social functions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's just wholly laughable that anyone is arguing that teachers can educate elementary school kids through screens.

Shockingly Australia and Alaska educated children through radio for generations.

+1 Here's the thing...it isn't the delivery vehicle. It's the person on the receiving end.

What we're seeing here in all the 'DL doesn't work' crap is that some people can't adapt and have no ability to be resourceful and resilient. They're the ones who cannot and will not flex so of course it isn't working for them. They need it delivered one way and one way only because of their own limitations.

The kids in Australia and Alaska referenced above are resilient, resourceful, flexible and adaptable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's just wholly laughable that anyone is arguing that teachers can educate elementary school kids through screens.

Shockingly Australia and Alaska educated children through radio for generations.

+1 Here's the thing...it isn't the delivery vehicle. It's the person on the receiving end.

What we're seeing here in all the 'DL doesn't work' crap is that some people can't adapt and have no ability to be resourceful and resilient. They're the ones who cannot and will not flex so of course it isn't working for them. They need it delivered one way and one way only because of their own limitations.

The kids in Australia and Alaska referenced above are resilient, resourceful, flexible and adaptable.

DP, and LOL. Yes, I'm sure the *quality* of the radio-delivered education was outstanding. Those Alaskans and Australian children must be infinitely malleable, with brains that change on a dime in response to their mothers' dulcet words of encouragement. Whatever was thrown at them, they had no negative response to, ever, because they were *resilient*.

-Said no person who actually understands anything about resilience, brain development, children, or long-term outcomes

[Anonymous]

Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

And the mindless yammering still goes on and on and on
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Note: Teacher's have been back in the school's since March 1st and all will be back in ES after SB. You can shut up now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

DW and I, both ES teachers, would have preferred to have been face to face since August. I don’t know anybody who wouldn’t prefer otherwise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is: teachers needs to get vaccinated and get back to school and teach our kids. No more excuses and BS. I am a single Mom, working full time from home, and I am not my kids' teacher. It's impossible to work from home and supervise my two ES kids at the same time. How long do you teachers want to stay home and teach via DL? Like forever? It has been more than a year now. How are working parents supposed to work and not go crazy? Do teachers who do not want to go back to teach at school even care about the kids' development and mental health? C'mon !

DW and I, both ES teachers, would have preferred to have been face to face since August. I don’t know anybody who wouldn’t prefer otherwise.

Our district surveyed teachers, and 75% did not want to go back.

Then the state passed a law forcing them to open. Elementary back full time. Never thought I'd say this, but thank you, Republicans!