Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

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Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Construction is different as you are in a persons home or building and separated. Much easier to keep safe than with 30+ students to a room. You sound entitled. Hire a nanny.

Construction workers are not in people’s homes, and they can’t pay for nannies.

If you can’t do, teach.

Construction workers work in large spaces with adults, often outside. Teachers work in enclosed petri dishes with kids who won't cooperate and admin who won't allow them to be made to cooperate. Google "prolonged indoor exposure + COVID" and maybe then you'll understand the difference between construction work and teaching in a pandemic. Thanks ever so.

If you went to school 20-30 years ago, it doesn't mean you know jack about the profession of teaching, including that idiotic backwards bumper sticker slogan you just dropped. How embarrassing for you.

Princess, that is not what a construction site is like at all. Workers put on hardhats and masks that fall off while they work in close contact. The work they do is not distanced. It's clear that you are too sheltered to have ever seen a construction site. How embarrassing for you.

Oh, so you're a sexist, too. What a shocker.

Well, sweetie-kins, teachers can work remotely and construction workers cannot. Their employers set the terms of their employment, not mobs of torchwaving parents.

If you don't like it, feel free to sign up to become a teacher. Problem solved!

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Haha seriously.

If 60% of MS students are now failing math, MS teachers cannot do it remotely either. Stop the charade.

Or parents can parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

I would be ashamed to point that out as a reasonable expectation. It’s really indecent that we expect people to not be able to go to the bathroom. Is a teacher expected to sh!t on themselves in your opinion?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

Oh good, we’re back to “it’s a panini” and no one has to do their jobs. I really look forward to when we’re 5 days a week in person in the fall and you can’t fall back on those old talking points anymore.

[Anonymous]

Many kids failed prior to covid. If kids aren't logging in, paying attention, doing the assignments, attending the extra help sessions as needed, and cannot get a basic passing grade, its partly on the parents. Teachers can be available to teach but its on the parents to get them engaged and logged on just like its on the parents to get them to physical school daily. It amazes me how checked out some parents are and don't see education and child care as their responsibility.

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Because construction is usually more distant, more outdoors, and as you can imagine, it's a much harsher profession where workers can easily get fired for requesting the most basic protections.

I'm a parent, not a teacher, but I don't fault teachers for wanting more security in a roomful of little Covid spreaders...

ewww. Little covid spreaders? Have the MSM really made you think of children as disease itself? You should be ashames or at least never allowed around a child alone.

[Anonymous]

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Because construction is usually more distant, more outdoors, and as you can imagine, it's a much harsher profession where workers can easily get fired for requesting the most basic protections.

I'm a parent, not a teacher, but I don't fault teachers for wanting more security in a roomful of little Covid spreaders...

ewww. Little covid spreaders? Have the MSM really made you think of children as disease itself? You should be ashames or at least never allowed around a child alone.

It really is a weirdly dehumanizing way of speaking about children. This is not a healthy mindset for a parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many kids failed prior to covid. If kids aren't logging in, paying attention, doing the assignments, attending the extra help sessions as needed, and cannot get a basic passing grade, its partly on the parents. Teachers can be available to teach but its on the parents to get them engaged and logged on just like its on the parents to get them to physical school daily. It amazes me how checked out some parents are and don't see education and child care as their responsibility.

1. The failure rate has increased significantly, which is a salient point.
2. Even children with bad, inattentive parents who don't value education deserve an education.

[Anonymous]

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Because construction is usually more distant, more outdoors, and as you can imagine, it's a much harsher profession where workers can easily get fired for requesting the most basic protections.

I'm a parent, not a teacher, but I don't fault teachers for wanting more security in a roomful of little Covid spreaders...

ewww. Little covid spreaders? Have the MSM really made you think of children as disease itself? You should be ashames or at least never allowed around a child alone.

Its kinda true. Kids will not be vaccinated and spread covid. But, hey, its ok because even if other parents aren't vaccinated you are and that's all that matters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

Oh good, we’re back to “it’s a panini” and no one has to do their jobs. I really look forward to when we’re 5 days a week in person in the fall and you can’t fall back on those old talking points anymore.

The governor of NJ has just said schools won’t be allowed to offer virtual options in the fall. So glad we can all dispense with the fiction that virtual school is school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Teachers working and teachers being effective are two different things.

I believe some teachers are working at least as hard as they would normally. The delivery is not successful to a large degree, particularly for ES kids.

Stop lying that DL is effective education.

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Matches my post at 18:23.

ES Teacher

And I appreciate you! I have several ES teacher friends and family members who say the same.

Thanks. I do think is the prevalent view of most ES teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

True. We all know many parents want in person school for various reasons. As a teacher, I care infinitely more about my safety than what you claim is most effective. If communities want school, then they can collectively stop participating in indoor dining and flying and otherwise spreading the virus. They won’t, though, so they must just not want it that much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

Nope. Not required during a pandemic. Their employers set their conditions of employment, not you.

True. We all know many parents want in person school for various reasons. As a teacher, I care infinitely more about my safety than what you claim is most effective. If communities want school, then they can collectively stop participating in indoor dining and flying and otherwise spreading the virus. They won’t, though, so they must just not want it that much.

Stop gaslighting! NOTHING anyone does makes school more or less likely. I mean we were at very low case numbers this late summer and early fall and we still didn’t get school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Can we just drop the argument that elementary teachers can do their jobs remotely? If doing your job remotely requires 20-25 other adults to constantly monitor and assist the children who are supposed to be under your care, you are not able to do your job remotely.

Seriously.

Schools are not childcare facilities. Those 20-25 adults are actually called “parents”. Monitoring and assisting your children is called parenting.

Except that they are. Supervision is a part of the job. What happens if a first grade teacher gets up and leaves the classroom for ten minutes so she can drop a deuce? That's right, she can't do that. Because she is supposed to be providing supervision as a function of her job.

They are not. They are educating. "Supervision", as you appear to define it, is a tangential part of the job.