Teachers Not Wanting to Go Back in Person

[Anonymous]

At some level, if a large majority of parents are unhappy with public schools, things will change. Slowly, because government. No, an individual parent opinion doesn't matter, but public opinion (eventually) matters, and even small groups of parent opinions can make a difference. This can be true for people who think DL is the new future or people like me who think DL is going to be a very minor part of the future.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in a global pandemic with variants being churned out around the world. The kids have not been vaccinated.

My kids are too young so I have no stakes in this fight but what's so hard to understand about teachers (or office staff) wanting to be safe at work?!

Teachers around here have had the opportunity to be vaccinated for months now.

If you believe the vaccines work, what do you have to be afraid of, as a teacher?

Some of us have serious medical conditions that our specialists believe limit the protection we will get from the virus. My workplace is one of many places that my doctor has advised me to steer clear of and I’m taking him seriously although I would spend less time at a restaurant, church, or the nail salon. I also don’t go to big box stores or anywhere really. I go to the doctor and that’s it.

Than it may be time for you to retire, or find another line of work. The virus is going to stay with us; we're not going to eradicate it, ever. If being in a public-facing job is too dangerous for you in that context, you will need to do something else. The vaccine is it, there's nothing else coming along to provide a better level of protection.

Honest question- if you really can't go back into your workplace safely, do you believe you deserve to continue to draw a salary from that employer?

Luckily those decisions about PP's employment and health are not up to you, Parent With Delusions of Grandeur. And nobody cares what you think anyone else "deserves" or not. Thanks!

Yes, keep up with that attitude, and you'll see how teachers get treated by the public in the future.

You're safe in your little DC area bubble. But, there are plenty of places in this country where the Governor gave teachers two choices (a) go back to work in person, or (b) quit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:At some level, if a large majority of parents are unhappy with public schools, things will change. Slowly, because government. No, an individual parent opinion doesn't matter, but public opinion (eventually) matters, and even small groups of parent opinions can make a difference. This can be true for people who think DL is the new future or people like me who think DL is going to be a very minor part of the future.

It can happen faster than you might think. If people lose confidence in a school system, they'll move elsewhere. Fewer students in a district means fewer teacher jobs.

[Anonymous]

Even considering a 9 mo salary, i do think teacher pay should be restructured

Yeah, restructured DOWN. They are overpaid and entitled.

And i think they should have viable and good ways to earn that 3 month summer salary, if they want to have a 12 month salary.

If they want a fulfilling summer job in the food service industry, that is already open to them!

Oh wait, “viable and good” - that means the taxpayers should fork over even more $$$ to cater to their delusionally inflated sense of self-worth?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in a global pandemic with variants being churned out around the world. The kids have not been vaccinated.

My kids are too young so I have no stakes in this fight but what's so hard to understand about teachers (or office staff) wanting to be safe at work?!

Teachers around here have had the opportunity to be vaccinated for months now.

If you believe the vaccines work, what do you have to be afraid of, as a teacher?

Some of us have serious medical conditions that our specialists believe limit the protection we will get from the virus. My workplace is one of many places that my doctor has advised me to steer clear of and I’m taking him seriously although I would spend less time at a restaurant, church, or the nail salon. I also don’t go to big box stores or anywhere really. I go to the doctor and that’s it.

unfortunately if your job has to be done in person (like teaching) you have no ADA rights to work from home.

Unfortunately, as you already know, it does not HAVE to be done in person, as evidenced by the past many months in school districts all over the country where it has been done NOT in person.

Also unfortunately (for you), you do not get to set the terms of teachers' employment.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We're in a global pandemic with variants being churned out around the world. The kids have not been vaccinated.

My kids are too young so I have no stakes in this fight but what's so hard to understand about teachers (or office staff) wanting to be safe at work?!

Teachers around here have had the opportunity to be vaccinated for months now.

If you believe the vaccines work, what do you have to be afraid of, as a teacher?

Some of us have serious medical conditions that our specialists believe limit the protection we will get from the virus. My workplace is one of many places that my doctor has advised me to steer clear of and I’m taking him seriously although I would spend less time at a restaurant, church, or the nail salon. I also don’t go to big box stores or anywhere really. I go to the doctor and that’s it.

unfortunately if your job has to be done in person (like teaching) you have no ADA rights to work from home.

Unfortunately, as you already know, it does not HAVE to be done in person, as evidenced by the past many months in school districts all over the country where it has been done NOT in person.

Also unfortunately (for you), you do not get to set the terms of teachers' employment.

yes, it does have to be in person. only someone being aggressively disengenous would be making that claim at this point. the kids need to get back to school. the damage is real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Even considering a 9 mo salary, i do think teacher pay should be restructured

Yeah, restructured DOWN. They are overpaid and entitled.

And i think they should have viable and good ways to earn that 3 month summer salary, if they want to have a 12 month salary.

If they want a fulfilling summer job in the food service industry, that is already open to them!

Oh wait, “viable and good” - that means the taxpayers should fork over even more $$$ to cater to their delusionally inflated sense of self-worth?

We can agree to disagree on this. I'm not one bit a fan of how school choices has played out this year. But the problem really isn't that teachers are paid too much, or that there isn't valuable work they could be doing in the summer to further the goal of education, if they wanted to.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We're in a global pandemic with variants being churned out around the world. The kids have not been vaccinated.

My kids are too young so I have no stakes in this fight but what's so hard to understand about teachers (or office staff) wanting to be safe at work?!

Teachers around here have had the opportunity to be vaccinated for months now.

If you believe the vaccines work, what do you have to be afraid of, as a teacher?

Some of us have serious medical conditions that our specialists believe limit the protection we will get from the virus. My workplace is one of many places that my doctor has advised me to steer clear of and I’m taking him seriously although I would spend less time at a restaurant, church, or the nail salon. I also don’t go to big box stores or anywhere really. I go to the doctor and that’s it.

unfortunately if your job has to be done in person (like teaching) you have no ADA rights to work from home.

Unfortunately, as you already know, it does not HAVE to be done in person, as evidenced by the past many months in school districts all over the country where it has been done NOT in person.

Also unfortunately (for you), you do not get to set the terms of teachers' employment.

You are ignoring the part where children have been harmed by this. Learning loss is real and we have data to prove it. A PORTION of teachers' work has been done through teleworking, and it is disingenuous to argue otherwise. It's time to get back to our higher standards.