Don’t vote for Joe Biden, guys, please!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Fascinating to read this thread 4 years later!

Guess the people who said Joe was most electable were proven right, but even in 2020 the general take was Biden is too old.

And yet, he has had the most consequential presidency in many generations, passing the infrastructure and CHIPS bills, recovering the US from COVID and the Trump economic disaster, and re-establishing the US leadership in NATO, all in the face of an obstructionist GOP and a judiciaary stacked against him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fascinating to read this thread 4 years later!

Guess the people who said Joe was most electable were proven right, but even in 2020 the general take was Biden is too old.

And yet, he has had the most consequential presidency in many generations, passing the infrastructure and CHIPS bills, recovering the US from COVID and the Trump economic disaster, and re-establishing the US leadership in NATO, all in the face of an obstructionist GOP and a judiciaary stacked against him.

+1
Not bad for a geezer!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both parties have done a horrible job of finding charismatic candidates who are politically moderate but don’t behave like corporate automatons.

Biden has intentionally flooded our country with illegals (and sued states when they try to protect their own borders with walls).

Democrat-dominated cities such as DC, have encouraged criminality by “decriminalizing” theft, drug dealing, camping on sidewalks, etc., while replacing real police officers with ineffective “violence interruptors.”

Democrats have lost my vote this year.

Do better.

This is a false take. Trump abused a law that he used to justify closing the border, The courts overturned the law, leaving Biden without the same toolkit. Either you want Joe to act as an authoritarian to "close the border" or else you need to get the GOP to pass the legislation that gives him those tools. I don't think we want an authoritarian, so that leaves one option, that Trump (and presumably you) oppose. Ergo, I cannot take this issue seriously, because it clearly isn't the crisis the right makes it out to be.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both parties have done a horrible job of finding charismatic candidates who are politically moderate but don’t behave like corporate automatons.

Biden has intentionally flooded our country with illegals (and sued states when they try to protect their own borders with walls).

Democrat-dominated cities such as DC, have encouraged criminality by “decriminalizing” theft, drug dealing, camping on sidewalks, etc., while replacing real police officers with ineffective “violence interruptors.”

Democrats have lost my vote this year.

Do better.

This is a false take. Trump abused a law that he used to justify closing the border, The courts overturned the law, leaving Biden without the same toolkit. Either you want Joe to act as an authoritarian to "close the border" or else you need to get the GOP to pass the legislation that gives him those tools. I don't think we want an authoritarian, so that leaves one option, that Trump (and presumably you) oppose. Ergo, I cannot take this issue seriously, because it clearly isn't the crisis the right makes it out to be.

+1

Especially when the legislation was their legislation. From the scanty number of posts in some of the newer immigration scare threads, it seems fewer people want to pretend it’s a crisis. You can’t say “fixing this will give my opponent a win, so don’t” and then pretend it’s a crisis.

Republicans want chaos, not solutions. Biden and the Democrats present solutions, compromise, listening and most importantly: democracy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both parties have done a horrible job of finding charismatic candidates who are politically moderate but don’t behave like corporate automatons.

Politics is entertainment. It requires thoughtful mind and cool temperament. It requires compromise. It’s messy and boring.

We got an entertainer. He told us to inject beach and swallow house dewormer. Biden has gotten a he11 of a lot down with the slimmest majorities.

These are just plain old fashion facts. But sure, bOtH SidEs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both parties have done a horrible job of finding charismatic candidates who are politically moderate but don’t behave like corporate automatons.

Politics is entertainment. It requires thoughtful mind and cool temperament. It requires compromise. It’s messy and boring.

We got an entertainer. He told us to inject beach and swallow house dewormer. Biden has gotten a he11 of a lot down with the slimmest majorities.

These are just plain old fashion facts. But sure, bOtH SidEs.

ISN’T entertainment!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both parties have done a horrible job of finding charismatic candidates who are politically moderate but don’t behave like corporate automatons.

Biden has intentionally flooded our country with illegals (and sued states when they try to protect their own borders with walls).

Democrat-dominated cities such as DC, have encouraged criminality by “decriminalizing” theft, drug dealing, camping on sidewalks, etc., while replacing real police officers with ineffective “violence interruptors.”

Democrats have lost my vote this year.

Do better.

LOL, Democrats never had your vote, trollski.

Protip, whether you're creating the Russian propaganda or just mindlessly repeating it because you're too dumb to realize you're being manipulated, at least try not to use ALL the dead giveaways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The he’s electable meme is a narrative based on a fallacy. It’s not true guys.

Let me be very clear about this: I adore Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden is a truly gifted, special person. He’s a national treasure with a real talent for comforting and relating to people.

That said, he is way past his prime, and it’s showing. He’s not up to it, guys, and you know it. Anyone with eyes and ears can tell.

Maybe the bigger issue is, as an establishment guy with a very long—and controversial—political history, he will not inspire people to vote for him. A bunch of older poll respondents say they’ll vote for him. That’s great, but young people (black, white, whomever) will not come out for this guy. Yes, even young black people will not come out for him.

Young people come out for candidates that excite them. That is not Joe Biden.

I’m against all octogenarians being president, frankly. I’m most worried about Joe, though, because people are believing this false narrative that he’s the most electable.

Just look at history, and you'll see that democrats win with young, fresh candidates that excite the electorate.

By the way, Hillary Clinton was the most electable, too...


—A black woman who cares

Well, there aren't any young candidates who excite the electorate . Phillips barely got 2% of NH voted and while Haley gets 40%, Trump gets 60%. So, who, and where, are these exciting young candidates? Apparently, you don't give a tinkler's dam about dictator trump would love to declare all minorities subhumans. Why would a black person vote for a man who was sued because he would not rent to black people? You are delusional.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fascinating to read this thread 4 years later!

Guess the people who said Joe was most electable were proven right, but even in 2020 the general take was Biden is too old.

And yet, he has had the most consequential presidency in many generations, passing the infrastructure and CHIPS bills, recovering the US from COVID and the Trump economic disaster, and re-establishing the US leadership in NATO, all in the face of an obstructionist GOP and a judiciaary stacked against him.

+1
Not bad for a geezer!

+2. I’m very grateful for Biden. The presidency is grueling and truly think it was an act of service that he ran at his age to save the country from Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe is the best choice. If he asked Kamala to be his running mate and told her he'd only serve one term, that would be amazing.

I am voting for Joe in the primary but will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. Even Bernie. UGH.

Biden is the best choice (if you are a MAGA and want trump to win).

On the contrary, Biden is the only one that can stop Trump. If Trump would drop out, so would Biden. He explicitly said so. And unlike Trump, he actually keeps his word more often than not. Trump has a horrible record (almost nil) of keeping his promises.

Trump may be having a landslide in the Republican primaries, but he is no longer capable of being elected in a general election. In two prior elections, he has not achieved a plurality of the votes. The only reason he won the one election he won was by taking advantage of a loophole in the electoral college and one that Clinton did not anticipate. Biden was watching the electoral college and prevented that from happening again. Trump will not sneak by again with this type of subterfuge. He will once again, lose the election.

Actually Haley would be much more dangerous for Biden in the general. And if Trump drops out, I guess Biden would drop out and we'd have two completely different choices for November.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe is the best choice. If he asked Kamala to be his running mate and told her he'd only serve one term, that would be amazing.

I am voting for Joe in the primary but will vote for the Democratic nominee no matter who it is. Even Bernie. UGH.

Biden is the best choice (if you are a MAGA and want trump to win).

On the contrary, Biden is the only one that can stop Trump. If Trump would drop out, so would Biden. He explicitly said so. And unlike Trump, he actually keeps his word more often than not. Trump has a horrible record (almost nil) of keeping his promises.

Trump may be having a landslide in the Republican primaries, but he is no longer capable of being elected in a general election. In two prior elections, he has not achieved a plurality of the votes. The only reason he won the one election he won was by taking advantage of a loophole in the electoral college and one that Clinton did not anticipate. Biden was watching the electoral college and prevented that from happening again. Trump will not sneak by again with this type of subterfuge. He will once again, lose the election.

Actually Haley would be much more dangerous for Biden in the general. And if Trump drops out, I guess Biden would drop out and we'd have two completely different choices for November.

Dp...he has been getting ~60% of the votes in what is essentially a two person race. That is nothing close to a landslide. It actually portends to big trouble for him and the GOP in a general election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both parties have done a horrible job of finding charismatic candidates who are politically moderate but don’t behave like corporate automatons.

Biden has intentionally flooded our country with illegals (and sued states when they try to protect their own borders with walls).

Democrat-dominated cities such as DC, have encouraged criminality by “decriminalizing” theft, drug dealing, camping on sidewalks, etc., while replacing real police officers with ineffective “violence interruptors.”

Democrats have lost my vote this year.

Do better.

+100
These are my top issues this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Both parties have done a horrible job of finding charismatic candidates who are politically moderate but don’t behave like corporate automatons.

Biden has intentionally flooded our country with illegals (and sued states when they try to protect their own borders with walls).

Democrat-dominated cities such as DC, have encouraged criminality by “decriminalizing” theft, drug dealing, camping on sidewalks, etc., while replacing real police officers with ineffective “violence interruptors.”

Democrats have lost my vote this year.

Do better.

+100
These are my top issues this year.

You’re both Republicans.

[Anonymous]

I will be voting for Biden again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I will be voting for Biden again.

Me too. And I’m going to vote for him in the primary, too. If you’re a true American and understand the danger presented by the GOP fascist party, there is only one person to vote for and that’s Joe Biden.