Don’t vote for Joe Biden, guys, please!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agreed, OP. The other candidates all have their weaknesses but they also seem to have a core constituency that gets excited about them.

No one seems truly excited about Biden.

I am looking forward to a period of calm. To a time of recovery from the past 4 years of frenetic lawlessness. To some healing.

[Anonymous]

I will not vote for Biden not he primary but will absolutely vote for him if he is the nominee - as you should.

[Anonymous]

Why are we all acting like klobachar isn’t a candidate? She’s the best bet.

[Anonymous]

The subject line is so obnoxious. There ARE some of us who like him, hello. And many more than me since he’s polling fairly highly. Agree that he’s too darn old, but so is Bernie & Trump, and that doesn’t seem to bother people so...

[Anonymous]

OP The only viable “young and fresh” candidate is Buttigieg and I just don’t see that happening. Or do you mean Andrew Yang?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP The only viable “young and fresh” candidate is Buttigieg and I just don’t see that happening. Or do you mean Andrew Yang?

Could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that OP is strongly in favor of Buttigieg. I like him, too, but he doesn’t have the recognition or experience of someone like Biden. I have reservations about Biden, but I’ll probably vote for him in the primary since he seems to have the widest appeal nationwide. Biden should be fine as long as he chooses a younger, charismatic VP who could take over. I was hoping that Harris would get more traction, but she didn’t. Abrams was robbed, but she lacks the experience to be President. Buttigieg would be great, but two moderate white guys isn’t going to cut it. There must be some up and coming Obama-like politician that Biden could choose, but I don’t know who that is.

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Anonymous wrote:The he’s electable meme is a narrative based on a fallacy. It’s not true guys.

Let me be very clear about this: I adore Joe Biden. I think Joe Biden is a truly gifted, special person. He’s a national treasure with a real talent for comforting and relating to people.

That said, he is way past his prime, and it’s showing. He’s not up to it, guys, and you know it. Anyone with eyes and ears can tell.

Maybe the bigger issue is, as an establishment guy with a very long—and controversial—political history, he will not inspire people to vote for him. A bunch of older poll respondents say they’ll vote for him. That’s great, but young people (black, white, whomever) will not come out for this guy. Yes, even young black people will not come out for him.

Young people come out for candidates that excite them. That is not Joe Biden.

I’m against all octogenarians being president, frankly. I’m most worried about Joe, though, because people are believing this false narrative that he’s the most electable.

Just look at history, and you'll see that democrats win with young, fresh candidates that excite the electorate.

By the way, Hillary Clinton was the most electable, too...


—A black woman who cares

I agree 100%. I have no idea why the media and party establishment is pushing this narrative. Joe has run twice before and dropped out one other time before it began. He was a 1-2% candidate. He did not get any better since he last ran.

Excellent point, which I failed to mention in my OP. Joe is a proven loser candidate.

I am so scared we’re going to make the same mistake again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The subject line is so obnoxious. There ARE some of us who like him, hello. And many more than me since he’s polling fairly highly. Agree that he’s too darn old, but so is Bernie & Trump, and that doesn’t seem to bother people so...

It bothers me, and many others. As I said in the OP, I’m against all octogenarians—including Warren.

The other oldsters aren’t getting tagged with this most electable label—at least not with an real credibility. Joe is, and it’s incredibly wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP The only viable “young and fresh” candidate is Buttigieg and I just don’t see that happening. Or do you mean Andrew Yang?

I’m not at all here to ask you to vote for my preferred candidate. Sincerely, I’m not. I’m saying please don’t vote for Biden solely because you think he’s “the most electable.”

I’d ask that you vote for the person who excites you. Vote for the person who’s ideas you love. Vote for a person who is more than a placeholder for 4 years. Vote for the person who will most likely live to see the results of their policies. Vote for the person who has an awareness of current ideas, beliefs, trends, culture...or, at the very least, an interest and ability to learn.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that OP is strongly in favor of Buttigieg. I like him, too, but he doesn’t have the recognition or experience of someone like Biden. I have reservations about Biden, but I’ll probably vote for him in the primary since he seems to have the widest appeal nationwide. Biden should be fine as long as he chooses a younger, charismatic VP who could take over. I was hoping that Harris would get more traction, but she didn’t. Abrams was robbed, but she lacks the experience to be President. Buttigieg would be great, but two moderate white guys isn’t going to cut it. There must be some up and coming Obama-like politician that Biden could choose, but I don’t know who that is.

This mentality will ensure we lose.

[Anonymous]

Having talked to people involved w the campaigns, Joe Biden will almost certainly be the nominee. Only threat is if Bernie wins BOTH Iowa and New Hampshire. Get used to the idea of Biden as your nominee folks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The subject line is so obnoxious. There ARE some of us who like him, hello. And many more than me since he’s polling fairly highly. Agree that he’s too darn old, but so is Bernie & Trump, and that doesn’t seem to bother people so...

It bothers me, and many others. As I said in the OP,[b] I’m against all octogenarians—including Warren.

The other oldsters aren’t getting tagged with this most electable label—at least not with an real credibility. Joe is, and it’s incredibly wrong.

At least get the facts right - Warren just turned 70. Believe it or not, not everyone over 65 is a mentally deficient old codger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that OP is strongly in favor of Buttigieg. I like him, too, but he doesn’t have the recognition or experience of someone like Biden. I have reservations about Biden, but I’ll probably vote for him in the primary since he seems to have the widest appeal nationwide. Biden should be fine as long as he chooses a younger, charismatic VP who could take over. I was hoping that Harris would get more traction, but she didn’t. Abrams was robbed, but she lacks the experience to be President. Buttigieg would be great, but two moderate white guys isn’t going to cut it. There must be some up and coming Obama-like politician that Biden could choose, but I don’t know who that is.

This mentality will ensure we lose.

Oh yes, picking someone popular like Biden will ensure we will lose. Got it
Newsflash: dems might lose no matter who gets elected.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The subject line is so obnoxious. There ARE some of us who like him, hello. And many more than me since he’s polling fairly highly. Agree that he’s too darn old, but so is Bernie & Trump, and that doesn’t seem to bother people so...

It bothers me, and many others. As I said in the OP, I’m against all octogenarians—including Warren.

The other oldsters aren’t getting tagged with this most electable label—at least not with an real credibility. Joe is, and it’s incredibly wrong.

At least get the facts right - Warren just turned 70. Believe it or not, not everyone over 65 is a mentally deficient old codger.

Fair enough; she’s not near 80. At 70, she’s still too old. Not a mentally deficient old codger isn’t the line we draw for POTUS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that OP is strongly in favor of Buttigieg. I like him, too, but he doesn’t have the recognition or experience of someone like Biden. I have reservations about Biden, but I’ll probably vote for him in the primary since he seems to have the widest appeal nationwide. Biden should be fine as long as he chooses a younger, charismatic VP who could take over. I was hoping that Harris would get more traction, but she didn’t. Abrams was robbed, but she lacks the experience to be President. Buttigieg would be great, but two moderate white guys isn’t going to cut it. There must be some up and coming Obama-like politician that Biden could choose, but I don’t know who that is.

This mentality will ensure we lose.

Oh yes, picking someone popular like Biden will ensure we will lose. Got it
Newsflash: dems might lose no matter who gets elected.

Picking someone because—even though you know he doesn’t excite you—you think he appeals to others is a recipe for picking a dud candidate.