75,000 Pro-Gun Demonstrators in Richmond For "Lobby Day"?

[Anonymous]

VA legislature and Northam should chip away at the gun nuts bit by bit. An omnibus gun restriction bill will get tons of concerted pushback. But individual bills that put tighter restrictions will lead to legislative fatigue among the more radical gun extremists. They can't get to Richmond every few weeks to protest another bill that would implement red flag laws, mental health requirements, gun insurance, etc.

In short, grind down the NRA and their wackjob supporters.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VA legislature and Northam should chip away at the gun nuts bit by bit. An omnibus gun restriction bill will get tons of concerted pushback. But individual bills that put tighter restrictions will lead to legislative fatigue among the more radical gun extremists. They can't get to Richmond every few weeks to protest another bill that would implement red flag laws, mental health requirements, gun insurance, etc.

In short, grind down the NRA and their wackjob supporters.

This protest is one sponsored by a Virgina gun rights organization, the NRA hasn't provided leadership on this issue.

It's surprising since the NRA hq is in Fairfax, and there is proposed legislation to shut down their gun range too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VA legislature and Northam should chip away at the gun nuts bit by bit. An omnibus gun restriction bill will get tons of concerted pushback. But individual bills that put tighter restrictions will lead to legislative fatigue among the more radical gun extremists. They can't get to Richmond every few weeks to protest another bill that would implement red flag laws, mental health requirements, gun insurance, etc.

In short, grind down the NRA and their wackjob supporters.

This protest is one sponsored by a Virgina gun rights organization, the NRA hasn't provided leadership on this issue.

It's surprising since the NRA hq is in Fairfax, and there is proposed legislation to shut down their gun range too.

How much support is NRA providing behind the scenes? Where does that "rights group" get its funding? All of this sounds astroturf'd, TBH.

[Anonymous]

3 white supremacists on way to rally arrested by FBI

https://wtop.com/local/2020/01/fbi-arrests-3-white-supremacists-ahead-of-pro-gun-rally/?fbclid=IwAR1Ak9gSAIy3OqunPTC9wDAkjAyCy6_LG6aGzBzQAXCSIkrF6pBGaRGqQw8

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3 white supremacists on way to rally arrested by FBI

https://wtop.com/local/2020/01/fbi-arrests-3-white-supremacists-ahead-of-pro-gun-rally/?fbclid=IwAR1Ak9gSAIy3OqunPTC9wDAkjAyCy6_LG6aGzBzQAXCSIkrF6pBGaRGqQw8

Disgusting that you want to make it easy for "very fine people" like this to buy guns and ammunition.

[Anonymous]

Seems to me the Governors declaration of a state of emergency is justified

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:”Virginia lawmakers voted Friday to ban firearms at the state Capitol”

Reason and civilization - 1, Beer bellies playing soldiers in woods - 0


https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/virginia-lawmakers-set-vote-capitol-gun-ban-68194524

I’m sure you thought really hard to conjure up your cute post, but these childish stereotypes don’t reflect reality.

No it was really easy really. Most of the cowardly fat dudes you see in the media wearing ill fitting tactical gear they bought from online marketplace barely cover their beer bellies. Most of them have not spent an hour on a combat zone or even in basic training. That’s you average ar-15 extended mag supporter.

What is an "ar-15 extended mag"?

Serious question. What is a "normal" ar-15 mag? What makes one an "extended" mag?

Can you shed some light on this? Because not everyone understands this stuff and some of these terms.

Not the PP but I will answer. A normal AR15 magazine holds 30 rounds. I would say extended is anything above that.

Oh, ok thank you.

Another question, if you don't mind: are all guns that use mags designed to use the same capacity? Frankly, I can't see how that would be possible anyway given that guns are of different sizes. But what decides how many shells a gun holds in the mag?

There is a different magazine for almost model of handgun. Standard capacity handgun magazines are usually between 6 and 20 rounds depending on the model. Rifles are usually 10-30 although there are exceptions. The size of the bullet and size of the gun determine capacity in a handgun, in a rifle the magazine size matters most.

I think 30 shells is enough for an upper limit, if that is what the gun was designed originally to hold. Or whatever the original design capacity was. I'm ok with the idea of a gun that was designed to hold 15 or 30 shells. I'm not ok with the idea of a gun that was designed to hold 30, but now holds 100 or 200 or more.

Is that a reasonable compromise?

Compromise? If any of you are SERIOUS about offering a compromise, then you need to consider:

- Grandfathering. Not even California went so far as to turn millions of its residents into criminals overnight. Banning future sales of magazines going forward is one thing. But banning legally-owned property (as several of these bills WILL do) is entirely another. Not to mention: it opens the law to immediate challenge (anyone remember the takings clause from 1st year?).

- Rifles (of any type). You are far more likely to be killed by a club, rock, or fist than ANY type of rifle in Virginia. Why attack rifles then?? Doing so only angers hunters and brings them on against these bills. Exclude rifles from background check laws as they are now (they are simply NOT a problem).

- lawful CCW holders: these Virginians have all been fingerprinted, background checked (and re-checked every 5 years), gone to the police to give up their info, are logged into a database available in every police cruiser 24/7. They are 2 to 4% of the civilian population of Virginia and they simply do not commit crimes (these are the good guys following the law). If you are serious about compromise, then leave them out of redundant background checks (they are already checked and re-checked).

Finally: state preemption. I get it: you want NOVA to be free to ban & confiscate all guns door to door and you think eliminating preemption will allow that, right? Careful - this is a double edged sword: most of the southern counties will use this to pass there OWN laws making handguns MORE available (one county has already proposed making every single county resident a "deputized sheriff's deputy" thereby side-stepping all the proposed new gun bans - and more. Is that what you want?).

If you want change, you must compromise in politics. Ignore compromise & you probably wont get anything.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:3 white supremacists on way to rally arrested by FBI

https://wtop.com/local/2020/01/fbi-arrests-3-white-supremacists-ahead-of-pro-gun-rally/?fbclid=IwAR1Ak9gSAIy3OqunPTC9wDAkjAyCy6_LG6aGzBzQAXCSIkrF6pBGaRGqQw8

Disgusting that you want to make it easy for "very fine people" like this to buy guns and ammunition.

And so much for the " you have nothing to worry about they are all 'antifa' " fake news poster. Steer clear of Richmond if you don't have to be there this weekend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:VA legislature and Northam should chip away at the gun nuts bit by bit. An omnibus gun restriction bill will get tons of concerted pushback. But individual bills that put tighter restrictions will lead to legislative fatigue among the more radical gun extremists. They can't get to Richmond every few weeks to protest another bill that would implement red flag laws, mental health requirements, gun insurance, etc.

In short, grind down the NRA and their wackjob supporters.

3 passed in the VA Senate today...

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/851968.page

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:3 white supremacists on way to rally arrested by FBI

https://wtop.com/local/2020/01/fbi-arrests-3-white-supremacists-ahead-of-pro-gun-rally/?fbclid=IwAR1Ak9gSAIy3OqunPTC9wDAkjAyCy6_LG6aGzBzQAXCSIkrF6pBGaRGqQw8

Disgusting that you want to make it easy for "very fine people" like this to buy guns and ammunition.

And so much for the " you have nothing to worry about they are all 'antifa' " fake news poster. Steer clear of Richmond if you don't have to be there this weekend.

Obviously. I try to avoid gun nuts at all costs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:VA legislature and Northam should chip away at the gun nuts bit by bit. An omnibus gun restriction bill will get tons of concerted pushback. But individual bills that put tighter restrictions will lead to legislative fatigue among the more radical gun extremists. They can't get to Richmond every few weeks to protest another bill that would implement red flag laws, mental health requirements, gun insurance, etc.

In short, grind down the NRA and their wackjob supporters.

This protest is one sponsored by a Virgina gun rights organization, the NRA hasn't provided leadership on this issue.

It's surprising since the NRA hq is in Fairfax, and there is proposed legislation to shut down their gun range too.

How much support is NRA providing behind the scenes? Where does that "rights group" get its funding? All of this sounds astroturf'd, TBH.

The vcsl has been around for years. It's member funded.

This event is their yearly lobby day. NRA had theirs last week.

[Anonymous]

Assault weapons ban already failed and was withdrawn. Even before that, grandfathering was added to the bill.

Here’s what’s going to happen — feel free to bump this in 6 months.

We are getting background checks, red flag laws, 1-handgun-a-month, and possibly some other restrictions. None of these will do anything to reduce gun violence, of course. But there will be no assault weapons ban or seizures of property (other than red flag). This is going to seriously derail the rest of the Dem agenda, and it’s going to tie up the courts for awhile. Afterwards, look for a re-reddening of a lot these districts. This gun control crusade will ultimately be very, very good for Republicans and possibly even for Trump in 2020.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:VA legislature and Northam should chip away at the gun nuts bit by bit. An omnibus gun restriction bill will get tons of concerted pushback. But individual bills that put tighter restrictions will lead to legislative fatigue among the more radical gun extremists. They can't get to Richmond every few weeks to protest another bill that would implement red flag laws, mental health requirements, gun insurance, etc.

In short, grind down the NRA and their wackjob supporters.

This protest is one sponsored by a Virgina gun rights organization, the NRA hasn't provided leadership on this issue.

It's surprising since the NRA hq is in Fairfax, and there is proposed legislation to shut down their gun range too.

How much support is NRA providing behind the scenes? Where does that "rights group" get its funding? All of this sounds astroturf'd, TBH.

The vcsl has been around for years. It's member funded.

This event is their yearly lobby day. NRA had theirs last week.

Even the NRA is trying to disassociate itself from these crazies. More on the neo-Nazis the FBI arrested here:
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51142752

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:3 white supremacists on way to rally arrested by FBI

https://wtop.com/local/2020/01/fbi-arrests-3-white-supremacists-ahead-of-pro-gun-rally/?fbclid=IwAR1Ak9gSAIy3OqunPTC9wDAkjAyCy6_LG6aGzBzQAXCSIkrF6pBGaRGqQw8

So they've been on their way to this rally since last October? Before the election?

So are white supremacists also blessed with psychic powers? How'd they know back then?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Assault weapons ban already failed and was withdrawn. Even before that, grandfathering was added to the bill.

Here’s what’s going to happen — feel free to bump this in 6 months.

We are getting background checks, red flag laws, 1-handgun-a-month, and possibly some other restrictions. None of these will do anything to reduce gun violence, of course. But there will be no assault weapons ban or seizures of property (other than red flag). This is going to seriously derail the rest of the Dem agenda, and it’s going to tie up the courts for awhile. Afterwards, look for a re-reddening of a lot these districts. This gun control crusade will ultimately be very, very good for Republicans and possibly even for Trump in 2020.

Last paragraph nails it.

This was a giant overreach by Governor Blackface, and dems are going to lose seats over this. Possibly even their majorities. 2020 and 2021 are going to be payback years for VA gun owners who were lackadaisical about voting. When 95% of your state declares itself a second amendment sanctuary in just a few weeks, that doesn't bode well for the reelection of many dems in those places.

People learned a lasting lesson here. Not just people in Virginia, but all over the country. They learned that when dems get power, the very first they do is start a gun grab. Before they did anything help poor people, to protect the environment, to build a better economy, or anything else to address the real everyday needs of Virginians, they set about taking guns away from people who weren't criminals.

That's dems. That's what they do.

Their number one priority is taking guns away from people who aren't criminals.