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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]”Virginia lawmakers voted Friday to ban firearms at the state Capitol”

Reason and civilization - 1, Beer bellies playing soldiers in woods - 0

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/virginia-lawmakers-set-vote-capitol-gun-ban-68194524[/quote]

I’m sure you thought really hard to conjure up your cute post, but these childish stereotypes don’t reflect reality.[/quote]

No it was really easy really. Most of the cowardly fat dudes you see in the media wearing ill fitting tactical gear they bought from online marketplace barely cover their beer bellies. Most of them have not spent an hour on a combat zone or even in basic training. That’s you average ar-15 extended mag supporter.[/quote]

What is an "ar-15 extended mag"?

Serious question. What is a "normal" ar-15 mag? What makes one an "extended" mag?

Can you shed some light on this? Because not everyone understands this stuff and some of these terms. [/quote]

Not the PP but I will answer. A normal AR15 magazine holds 30 rounds. I would say extended is anything above that.[/quote]

Oh, ok thank you.

Another question, if you don't mind: are all guns that use mags designed to use the same capacity? Frankly, I can't see how that would be possible anyway given that guns are of different sizes. But what decides how many shells a gun holds in the mag? [/quote]

There is a different magazine for almost model of handgun.   Standard capacity handgun magazines are usually between 6 and 20 rounds depending on the model.  Rifles are usually 10-30 although there are exceptions.  The size of the bullet and size of the gun determine capacity in a handgun, in a rifle the magazine size matters most.[/quote]

I think 30 shells is enough for an upper limit, if that is what the gun was designed originally to hold. Or whatever the original design capacity was. I'm ok with the idea of a gun that was designed to hold 15 or 30 shells. I'm not ok with the idea of a gun that was designed to hold 30, but now holds 100 or 200 or more.

Is that a reasonable compromise? [/quote]

Compromise?  If any of you are SERIOUS about offering a compromise, then you need to consider:

- Grandfathering.  Not even California went so far as to turn millions of its residents into criminals overnight.  Banning future sales of magazines going forward is one thing.  But banning legally-owned property (as several of these bills WILL do) is entirely another.  Not to mention: it opens the law to immediate challenge (anyone remember the takings clause from 1st year?).

- Rifles (of any type).  You are far more likely to be killed by a club, rock, or fist than ANY type of rifle in Virginia.  Why attack rifles then?? Doing so only angers hunters and brings them on against these bills.  Exclude rifles from background check laws as they are now (they are simply NOT a problem).

- lawful CCW holders:  these Virginians have all been fingerprinted, background checked (and re-checked every 5 years), gone to the police to give up their info, are logged into a database available in every police cruiser 24/7.  They are 2 to 4% of the civilian population of Virginia and they simply do not commit crimes (these are the good guys following the law).   If you are serious about compromise, then leave them out of redundant background checks (they are already checked and re-checked).

Finally: state preemption.  I get it: you want NOVA to be free to ban & confiscate all guns door to door and you think eliminating preemption will allow that, right?  Careful - this is a double edged sword: most of the southern counties will use this to pass there OWN laws making handguns MORE available (one county has already proposed making every single county resident a "deputized sheriff's deputy" thereby side-stepping all the proposed new gun bans  - and more.  Is that what you want?).

If you want change, you must compromise in politics.  Ignore compromise & you probably wont get anything.  [/quote]

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