Is this going too far? Always removes Venus symbol to acknowledge transmen who menstruate

[Anonymous]

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It's fine for trans men (or anyone) to express what they want in product marketing. Lord knows that trans men aren't alone in disliking gender stereotypes in marketing. However, it's NOT bigoted to be annoyed that trans men essentially want to hijack and outlaw an entire way of speaking (and erase entire, very important categories of identity) just because they claim it excludes them. I get it, some parturients do not identify as women. But to forbid anyone from saying "pregnant woman" or talk about motherhood as a general experience is to basically erase the experience of women and not allow them to talk about it ... including the ways they experience subjugation due to their sex.

Motherhood isn't a general experience.

But if you nonetheless want to talk about motherhood as a general experience, you may do so.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These conversations are so bizarre. Trans men identify as men, but that doesn’t change their female biology, which is exactly why they are TRANS men rather than CIS. Likewise, menstruation is a fact of female biology, which stands apart from gender identity.

Is this fact bigoted? Is acknowledging it bigoted? If so, I don’t know what to say, save that the denial of facts in favor of ideological commitment doesn’t strike me as virtuous.

No but understanding your 1st paragraph to be true and wanting trans men to not express what they want for menstrual
Products is bigoted.

It's fine for trans men (or anyone) to express what they want in product marketing. Lord knows that trans men aren't alone in disliking gender stereotypes in marketing. However, it's NOT bigoted to be annoyed that trans men essentially want to hijack and outlaw an entire way of speaking (and erase entire, very important categories of identity) just because they claim it excludes them. I get it, some parturients do not identify as women. But to forbid anyone from saying "pregnant woman" or talk about motherhood as a general experience is to basically erase the experience of women and not allow them to talk about it ... including the ways they experience subjugation due to their sex.

Language evolves. Do you disagree?

Do you still say fag? Retarded? Gay? Colored?

Keep up!

No, you keep up. There's a HUGE difference between slurs intended to hurt the target, and deciding that language that applies to a group is offensive because it excludes a tiny, tiny minority.To claim that saying "pregnant women" is as offensive as saying "fag" is just absurd. Hopefully you can see that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

It's fine for trans men (or anyone) to express what they want in product marketing. Lord knows that trans men aren't alone in disliking gender stereotypes in marketing. However, it's NOT bigoted to be annoyed that trans men essentially want to hijack and outlaw an entire way of speaking (and erase entire, very important categories of identity) just because they claim it excludes them. I get it, some parturients do not identify as women. But to forbid anyone from saying "pregnant woman" or talk about motherhood as a general experience is to basically erase the experience of women and not allow them to talk about it ... including the ways they experience subjugation due to their sex.

Motherhood isn't a general experience.

But if you nonetheless want to talk about motherhood as a general experience, you may do so.

Right, so your agenda is to silence the experience of a historically disadvantaged minority (mothers). Got it.

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Transmen who argue they aren't female, and thus the female symbol does not apply to them and should be removed from feminine hygiene products they require.
Transwomen who argue they aren't male, and thus can fairly participate in sex segregated sports for females.

Naw, that's not scientific facts. That's your opinion. Which you're entitled to have.

Lol. Science deniers

Also no. Here, I'll help you out.

Scientific fact: typically, humans who are female have two X chromosomes.
Not a scientific fact: it's not fair for transwomen to compete in sex-segregated sports with ciswomen.

This opinion is based in scientific fact - for example, a study in the Journal of Applied Physiology found that men had an average of 26 lbs. (12 kilograms) more skeletal muscle mass than women. Women also exhibited about 40 percent less upper-body strength and 33 percent less lower-body strength, on average.

So the stance that “it’s not fair” has merit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you going to boycott their product because of this? Private company, they can do what they want.

I do. I absolutely don’t care about the packaging. If they would simply remove the Venus sign, I would continue to buy their product. If they made a political statement, no. As a pp stated, the packaging design done for the low IQ people. I don’t care if my pads will be wrapped in a plain brown paper as long as they do the work. However, I do care about the agenda that this company is trying to push on me. As a mother of three young girls, I don’t want to support the company who promotes equality between women and transgender men. One day, one of this transgender men will be competing against one of my girls in sports if I continue quietly with this propaganda just because it simply doesn’t hurts me now, like some of the posters said. Also, as a taxpayer, I don’t want to pay for any of the voluntary elective hormone replacement therapy, and for all the health consequences of this treatment that these transgenders will be facing in 20-30 years . This is just two examples, I have few more reasons, just don’t have time.

I think people who have this mentality “ If it doesn’t hurt me, I don’t care” are very narrow minded and failing to see a bigger picture.

And here we have the anti-trans language from the extremist group in Shirlington — American Principles Project.

Hopefully you are getting paid to spread this hateful PROPAGANDA.

How is not wanting a biological male to compete against a biological female propaganda?

Why don’t you head over to Shirlington and ask them yourself?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/03/us/politics/kentucky-transgender-school-sports.html

Bathroom fearmongering didn’t work so now you’re trying sports. Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Are you going to boycott their product because of this? Private company, they can do what they want.

I do. I absolutely don’t care about the packaging. If they would simply remove the Venus sign, I would continue to buy their product. If they made a political statement, no. As a pp stated, the packaging design done for the low IQ people. I don’t care if my pads will be wrapped in a plain brown paper as long as they do the work. However, I do care about the agenda that this company is trying to push on me. As a mother of three young girls, I don’t want to support the company who promotes equality between women and transgender men. One day, one of this transgender men will be competing against one of my girls in sports if I continue quietly with this propaganda just because it simply doesn’t hurts me now, like some of the posters said. Also, as a taxpayer, I don’t want to pay for any of the voluntary elective hormone replacement therapy, and for all the health consequences of this treatment that these transgenders will be facing in 20-30 years . This is just two examples, I have few more reasons, just don’t have time.

I think people who have this mentality “ If it doesn’t hurt me, I don’t care” are very narrow minded and failing to see a bigger picture.

And here we have the anti-trans language from the extremist group in Shirlington — American Principles Project.

Hopefully you are getting paid to spread this hateful PROPAGANDA.

How is not wanting a biological male to compete against a biological female propaganda?

Why don’t you head over to Shirlington and ask them yourself?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/03/us/politics/kentucky-transgender-school-sports.html

Bathroom fearmongering didn’t work so now you’re trying sports. Got it.

So does this mean you can’t answer the question?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are you going to boycott their product because of this? Private company, they can do what they want.

I do. I absolutely don’t care about the packaging. If they would simply remove the Venus sign, I would continue to buy their product. If they made a political statement, no. As a pp stated, the packaging design done for the low IQ people. I don’t care if my pads will be wrapped in a plain brown paper as long as they do the work. However, I do care about the agenda that this company is trying to push on me. As a mother of three young girls, I don’t want to support the company who promotes equality between women and transgender men. One day, one of this transgender men will be competing against one of my girls in sports if I continue quietly with this propaganda just because it simply doesn’t hurts me now, like some of the posters said. Also, as a taxpayer, I don’t want to pay for any of the voluntary elective hormone replacement therapy, and for all the health consequences of this treatment that these transgenders will be facing in 20-30 years . This is just two examples, I have few more reasons, just don’t have time.

I think people who have this mentality “ If it doesn’t hurt me, I don’t care” are very narrow minded and failing to see a bigger picture.

And here we have the anti-trans language from the extremist group in Shirlington — American Principles Project.

Hopefully you are getting paid to spread this hateful PROPAGANDA.

How is not wanting a biological male to compete against a biological female propaganda?

Why don’t you head over to Shirlington and ask them yourself?

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/03/us/politics/kentucky-transgender-school-sports.html

Bathroom fearmongering didn’t work so now you’re trying sports. Got it.

Im not pp but im super over you denying women their ability to discuss a movement specifically aimed at erasing the language of their identity by conflating that concern with bigots who are worried about bathrooms.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's fine for trans men (or anyone) to express what they want in product marketing. Lord knows that trans men aren't alone in disliking gender stereotypes in marketing. However, it's NOT bigoted to be annoyed that trans men essentially want to hijack and outlaw an entire way of speaking (and erase entire, very important categories of identity) just because they claim it excludes them. I get it, some parturients do not identify as women. But to forbid anyone from saying "pregnant woman" or talk about motherhood as a general experience is to basically erase the experience of women and not allow them to talk about it ... including the ways they experience subjugation due to their sex.

Motherhood isn't a general experience.

But if you nonetheless want to talk about motherhood as a general experience, you may do so.

Right, so your agenda is to silence the experience of a historically disadvantaged minority (mothers). Got it.

My personal agenda at this moment is to point out that motherhood is not, in fact, a general experience for women. Don't you know any women who don't have children? In 2018, 15% of women aged 45-50 didn't have any children.

[Anonymous]

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Im not pp but im super over you denying women their ability to discuss a movement specifically aimed at erasing the language of their identity by conflating that concern with bigots who are worried about bathrooms.

I'm sorry that you feel erased by people saying "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women". I really am.

[Anonymous]

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Im not pp but im super over you denying women their ability to discuss a movement specifically aimed at erasing the language of their identity by conflating that concern with bigots who are worried about bathrooms.

I'm sorry that you feel erased by people saying "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women". I really am.

Im sorry you resort to hyperbole designed to silence women when confronted with legitimate concerns and debate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's fine for trans men (or anyone) to express what they want in product marketing. Lord knows that trans men aren't alone in disliking gender stereotypes in marketing. However, it's NOT bigoted to be annoyed that trans men essentially want to hijack and outlaw an entire way of speaking (and erase entire, very important categories of identity) just because they claim it excludes them. I get it, some parturients do not identify as women. But to forbid anyone from saying "pregnant woman" or talk about motherhood as a general experience is to basically erase the experience of women and not allow them to talk about it ... including the ways they experience subjugation due to their sex.

Motherhood isn't a general experience.

But if you nonetheless want to talk about motherhood as a general experience, you may do so.

Right, so your agenda is to silence the experience of a historically disadvantaged minority (mothers). Got it.

My personal agenda at this moment is to point out that motherhood is not, in fact, a general experience for women. Don't you know any women who don't have children? In 2018, 15% of women aged 45-50 didn't have any children.

Confronting motherhood or the possibility of it is foundational to the female experience today and historically. It is the aspect of our bodies that has made us subject to men's whims and discrimination throughout history. That has put us in danger and also bonded us together. Some women can't have children, some can, some choose not to, but we all go through the process of discovering our bodies, what they are capable of and what they put us at risk for.

If you don't understand that then im not convinced you are a biological woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's fine for trans men (or anyone) to express what they want in product marketing. Lord knows that trans men aren't alone in disliking gender stereotypes in marketing. However, it's NOT bigoted to be annoyed that trans men essentially want to hijack and outlaw an entire way of speaking (and erase entire, very important categories of identity) just because they claim it excludes them. I get it, some parturients do not identify as women. But to forbid anyone from saying "pregnant woman" or talk about motherhood as a general experience is to basically erase the experience of women and not allow them to talk about it ... including the ways they experience subjugation due to their sex.

Motherhood isn't a general experience.

But if you nonetheless want to talk about motherhood as a general experience, you may do so.

Right, so your agenda is to silence the experience of a historically disadvantaged minority (mothers). Got it.

My personal agenda at this moment is to point out that motherhood is not, in fact, a general experience for women. Don't you know any women who don't have children? In 2018, 15% of women aged 45-50 didn't have any children.

what's your point, again? if you're not a mother, you don't have to be on a mommy blog talking about motherhood. it's fine. But based on the logic of trans activists, I guess it would be tenable fora trans person to trash a mommy blog for using the word mommy and discussing motherhood, since not all women are mothers, not all mothers are women, and some mothers are now actually fathers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Im not pp but im super over you denying women their ability to discuss a movement specifically aimed at erasing the language of their identity by conflating that concern with bigots who are worried about bathrooms.

I'm sorry that you feel erased by people saying "pregnant people" instead of "pregnant women". I really am.

You're laughable. Well ok, if language doesn't matter at all, let's put the venus symbol back on the damn pads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

It's fine for trans men (or anyone) to express what they want in product marketing. Lord knows that trans men aren't alone in disliking gender stereotypes in marketing. However, it's NOT bigoted to be annoyed that trans men essentially want to hijack and outlaw an entire way of speaking (and erase entire, very important categories of identity) just because they claim it excludes them. I get it, some parturients do not identify as women. But to forbid anyone from saying "pregnant woman" or talk about motherhood as a general experience is to basically erase the experience of women and not allow them to talk about it ... including the ways they experience subjugation due to their sex.

Motherhood isn't a general experience.

But if you nonetheless want to talk about motherhood as a general experience, you may do so.

Right, so your agenda is to silence the experience of a historically disadvantaged minority (mothers). Got it.

My personal agenda at this moment is to point out that motherhood is not, in fact, a general experience for women. Don't you know any women who don't have children? In 2018, 15% of women aged 45-50 didn't have any children.

what's your point, again? if you're not a mother, you don't have to be on a mommy blog talking about motherhood. it's fine. But based on the logic of trans activists, I guess it would be tenable fora trans person to trash a mommy blog for using the word mommy and discussing motherhood, since not all women are mothers, not all mothers are women, and some mothers are now actually fathers.

Wow, that's a very defensive response to a post stating the fact that motherhood is not a general experience for women.

[Anonymous]

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Confronting motherhood or the possibility of it is foundational to the female experience today and historically. It is the aspect of our bodies that has made us subject to men's whims and discrimination throughout history. That has put us in danger and also bonded us together. Some women can't have children, some can, some choose not to, but we all go through the process of discovering our bodies, what they are capable of and what they put us at risk for.

If you don't understand that then im not convinced you are a biological woman.

Kinda tired of people telling me what being a woman is like for all women.

-a woman