Think she cheated on her SAT?

[Anonymous]

300 point score increase in her scoring bracket is not flag-worthy. If she had the same right answers as neighbors, I would say the same. Eve, if she had most of the same wrong answers, I wouldn't think it should be flagged -- ETS puts in obvious choices on harder problems to lure test takers into choosing a wrong answer. BUT, if she had ALL the same wring answers, that would be very suspicious.

I would hate to have to retake the test, but if it's true that if she scores within 100 points, ETS will reinstate her original scores, that sounds like the only plan if all her wrong answers were the same. Does ETS know where students sat in relation to other students on a given test session?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Funny how so many in this thread are SURE there was no racism here and describe evidence of her cheating as “strong” when literally NO evidence has come out. We need a question administered before people can be ruled qualified to post in this thread:

Which is not evidence:

(a) your opinion
(b) anecdotes you pulled out of your ass
(c) anonymous posts online
(d) all of the above

Same can be said about the racism claims. What evidence do you have that she was flagged solely because of her race?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like she cheated by copying answers from someone nearby. The computers detected a similar answer pattern and she was flagged. If she studied and was able to make a 300 point increase, she should be able to score a similar score upon retaking the test. I’m guessing that she knows she wouldn’t be able to get the same score again and has turned to the media to avoid retaking the test.

And your guess is of the same value as the lint in your belly button.

[Anonymous]

Of course she cheated. I can’t believe some of you think she didn’t. CB won’t flag them unless they are very sure. 300+ improvement at her score range is HIGHLY unlikely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:300 point score increase in her scoring bracket is not flag-worthy. If she had the same right answers as neighbors, I would say the same. Eve, if she had most of the same wrong answers, I wouldn't think it should be flagged -- ETS puts in obvious choices on harder problems to lure test takers into choosing a wrong answer. BUT, if she had ALL the same wring answers, that would be very suspicious.

I would hate to have to retake the test, but if it's true that if she scores within 100 points, ETS will reinstate her original scores, that sounds like the only plan if all her wrong answers were the same. Does ETS know where students sat in relation to other students on a given test session?

Why do people think their worthless opinions are somehow more valuable than the actual algorithmic data that ETS uses to analyze performance? Are people really that stupid?

[Anonymous]

http://spr.ly/6019EM6zb

Clarifying the College Board’s Score Review Process
College Board Communications
01/04/19

We take extremely seriously the concerns raised about our score review process. Behind every score is a young person with a future ahead of them. We take the utmost care because students’ lives are directly involved.

In the review process, we give the benefit of the doubt to the student and we never hold or cancel scores unless there is very strong evidence. We do our best to honor the work students do and ensure we have all the evidence that should inform decisions about score reviews.

We strongly celebrate students of all backgrounds soaring on the SAT and claiming their future. We created Official SAT Practice on Khan Academy to give all students the chance to receive free, personalized practice. We recently celebrated that 100,000 students improved their SAT score by 200 points through free practice on Khan Academy. These gains were consistent across students of every background, regardless of race, income, and gender.

We hope that what follows clarifies some of the aspects of the process that we must follow when we see concerning evidence around scores.

Student scores are never held or cancelled simply because of score gains. Score reviews are triggered by a range of factors that cast doubt on the validity of a score. We follow the same process for reviewing scores for all students; race, ethnicity, or any other personal attributes have no role in this process.
Here are some of the types of evidence that can prompt a score review or suggest invalidity:
A student’s answer sheet resembles another student’s, or more concerningly, a group of students who have very similar answers, including the same wrong answers.
The same group includes students whose scores have been canceled for irregularities in the past.
The group of students’ answers match not only one another’s, but an answer key or “cheat sheet” that has been found circulating among students.
There is an absence of any scratch work in the student’s testing booklet.
Each of these factors and other similar evidence are rare. In combination, they are extremely rare and establish very strongly that a score is not valid.

Any student can confirm their original score by promptly taking a retest, and the student only needs to score within the range of the original score to have it released. For example, in many cases, if a student scores within 120-150 points of their reviewed score in both the Reading and Math sections, the student can confirm the score that was under review.
Students can also submit evidence throughout the review process, and they always have the option of a hearing with a neutral arbitrator. We want to ensure that all of the evidence is considered before making determinations that can impact a student’s score.
Let us be more than clear. We celebrate score gains by students and have dedicated scholarships for students who improve. We have released data to the public celebrating score gains from students of all backgrounds.

We would prefer never to have to hold or cancel scores, but we must hold students to certain standards to ensure that all students have a fair chance to show their best work and that the scores we deliver to colleges are valid.

[Anonymous]

Great post ^

So of course she cheated

Anyone who thinks otherwise..has some special agenda

[Anonymous]

I suspect PP sees a special agenda every time someone disagreed with her.

[Anonymous]

The CB's response seems very reasonable. She should retake the test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great post ^

So of course she cheated

Anyone who thinks otherwise..has some special agenda

No one "thinks otherwise".

Just some are not willing to judge without having seen the evidence.

You are not burdened by that value.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great post ^

So of course she cheated

Anyone who thinks otherwise..has some special agenda

No one "thinks otherwise".

Just some are not willing to judge without having seen the evidence.

You are not burdened by that value.

Do you mean I can't judge until I see the answers side by side myself?

Or I should assume college board is lying when they said there is substantial agreement between her answers and another test takers answers? Or what?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great post ^

So of course she cheated

Anyone who thinks otherwise..has some special agenda

No one "thinks otherwise".

Just some are not willing to judge without having seen the evidence.

You are not burdened by that value.

You clearly haven’t read the thread. There are MANY posts saying she did not cheat and that her score increase can be explained by her test prep.

[Anonymous]

Scoring within 150 points at that range shouldn’t be a big deal at all. I think that’s a very reasonable requirement given the circumstances.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:http://spr.ly/6019EM6zb

Clarifying the College Board’s Score Review Process
College Board Communications
01/04/19

We take extremely seriously the concerns raised about our score review process. Behind every score is a young person with a future ahead of them. We take the utmost care because students’ lives are directly involved.

In the review process, we give the benefit of the doubt to the student and we never hold or cancel scores unless there is very strong evidence. We do our best to honor the work students do and ensure we have all the evidence that should inform decisions about score reviews.

We strongly celebrate students of all backgrounds soaring on the SAT and claiming their future. We created Official SAT Practice on Khan Academy to give all students the chance to receive free, personalized practice. We recently celebrated that 100,000 students improved their SAT score by 200 points through free practice on Khan Academy. These gains were consistent across students of every background, regardless of race, income, and gender.

We hope that what follows clarifies some of the aspects of the process that we must follow when we see concerning evidence around scores.

Student scores are never held or cancelled simply because of score gains. Score reviews are triggered by a range of factors that cast doubt on the validity of a score. We follow the same process for reviewing scores for all students; race, ethnicity, or any other personal attributes have no role in this process.
Here are some of the types of evidence that can prompt a score review or suggest invalidity:
A student’s answer sheet resembles another student’s, or more concerningly, a group of students who have very similar answers, including the same wrong answers.
The same group includes students whose scores have been canceled for irregularities in the past.
The group of students’ answers match not only one another’s, but an answer key or “cheat sheet” that has been found circulating among students.
There is an absence of any scratch work in the student’s testing booklet.
Each of these factors and other similar evidence are rare. In combination, they are extremely rare and establish very strongly that a score is not valid.

Any student can confirm their original score by promptly taking a retest, and the student only needs to score within the range of the original score to have it released. For example, in many cases, if a student scores within 120-150 points of their reviewed score in both the Reading and Math sections, the student can confirm the score that was under review.
Students can also submit evidence throughout the review process, and they always have the option of a hearing with a neutral arbitrator. We want to ensure that all of the evidence is considered before making determinations that can impact a student’s score.
Let us be more than clear. We celebrate score gains by students and have dedicated scholarships for students who improve. We have released data to the public celebrating score gains from students of all backgrounds.

We would prefer never to have to hold or cancel scores, but we must hold students to certain standards to ensure that all students have a fair chance to show their best work and that the scores we deliver to colleges are valid.

This seems eminently reasonable and appears that they have a thorough system in place that guides them to make these decisions. It does not seem capricious or arbitrary at all. Isn't this what we all want for the administrators of this test?? Would you want your child to take such an important test that did not have these kinds of standards and methods??

As much as it sucks to have to re-take the test, it does seem its the easiest and fastest way to settle the question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great post ^

So of course she cheated

Anyone who thinks otherwise..has some special agenda

No one "thinks otherwise".

Just some are not willing to judge without having seen the evidence.

You are not burdened by that value.

You clearly haven’t read the thread. There are MANY posts saying she did not cheat and that her score increase can be explained by her test prep.

Many feel it could explain it. But I haven’t seen one post that said she defintely did not cheat. Can you point them out to me?