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Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4
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Anonymous
What did you expect? This is just to give cover to the four holdouts to vote aye. |
Anonymous
| Where are Ford's friends, family, fellow employees, former students? I expected someone to comment on her. How about the contractor who had to put in 2 front doors. It's been radio silence. Seems odd. |
Anonymous
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I was at a family gathering this weekend and everyone was talking about the Kavanaugh case. Everyone there was a Republican and this is what they believed:
- Kavanaugh is an esteemed judge who has undergone 5 background checks -Christine Ford is not lying. She clearly has been through sexual assault and seems indeed like a victim of sexual assault. She is believable and sympathetic BUT is mistaken about the identity of her abuser. - The Democrats are abusing a poor traumatized woman and using her trauma to malign an objectively decent and honorable man. -Dr. Ford is clearly a liberal and a democrat and is happy to play her part to push their agenda -This is a smear campaign used to stop this nomination. My thoughts...what makes them think Dr. Ford is colluding with the Dems to malign Kavanaugh? What evidence do we have that she is mistaken about the identity of the guy who abused her? |
Anonymous
Human nature where threatened - fight or flight. She tried to fight and then she took flight. You are talking about stopping to think about it, and she was in full on panic mode. |
Anonymous
+1 Except I would rewrite #3 to be: 3. #2 doesn't matter bc politicians don't care, as long as they get the end result they want, which is power. |
Anonymous
I had posted about this before and would reiterate this. The prosecutor practiced malpractice by issuing a report based on incomplete investigation. I understand that she was brought in exactly for that reason, and that is besides the point. Here are a few things that made the investigation biased and incomplete. 1. Rachel was hired by GOP to (apparently) question both the victim and accused assaulter. She was not hired a bipartisan basis. So, she was representing the GOP interest. So, she started with the biased perception. 2. She questioned Ford to validate her claim. Ford answered all her questions. 3. She did not cross examine Kavanugh because GOP stopped her as soon as she was getting into uncomfortable territory for Kavanaugh. 4. She did not cross examine the witnesses identified by Ford because GOP did not allow (and subpoena) the witnesses. Letters by them is not sufficient. 5. Kavanaugh did not respond to many questions asked by Democrats. 6. Kavanaugh lied on many answers and the prosecutor does not have any way to know the lies unless there were a investigations before. In the end, this is legal malpractice to say Ford does not have a case, when the hearing looked as if she was being confirmed to and being investigated rather than Kavanaugh. |
Anonymous
She said she does not remember Kavanaugh. I was probably in a group of people in high school at some point and do not remember each person there. This is not conclusive. |
Anonymous
Not telling her friend that she was almost raped is one thing. Not telling her why she left early or how she got home is something else. |
Anonymous
| His actions have consequences. |
Anonymous
| What about how here therapist's notes say she was assaulted in her late teens, not 15 as she claims now? |
Anonymous
I was sexually assaulted while swimming in a lake as a teenager, with my best friend not 10 feet away from me as it happened. I got away from the boy who was doing it without drawing any attention to what happened, then or ever. I didn’t tell my friend what happened out of fear of the incident blowing up, people finding out, and finding myself in the middle of an unforgiving rumor mill that NEVER was a good thing for a girl in the 80s. I have absolutely no recollection of anything else from that day 30 years ago. No car rides, nothing. Maybe my friend thought it was weird at the time that I chose what seemed like a random moment to stop hanging out and having fun in the lake, but that kind of mundane incident (me getting out of the lake while everyone was having fun) is not typically something that sticks with people for 30 years. She might have no memory at all of that day at the lake, and that would in no way be weird or abnormal. I know the person who did it to me, by name. THAT is something that you don’t forget. I have no interest in drawing the incident to anyone’s attention and it wouldn’t surprise me if he didn’t even remember it. But if he were a SCOTUS pick I would definitely consider coming forward. And my friend would probably honestly say that she didn’t remember that specific day in the lake; I wouldn’t want her to lie about that. It doesn’t mean that it didn’t happen or that I would be wrong to come forward. |
Anonymous
IRT your thoughts..... Colluding with the Dems? I don’t think it started out as the two colluding. But, I do think that Feinstein viewed this as an opportunity to stall this nomination. The timing is highly suspect. Not asking Kavanaugh at all about the allegations in her private meeting. Not taking the letter to the FBI immediately and not sharing the information with the Chair of the committee. The leaking of the letter. The effort by Whitehouse to send the RI accuser to the press. The Dems/her attorneys not informing her of the willingness of the committee to come to her. Feinstein referring her to an attorney (this is a biggie, really). Mistaken identity.... Her own “corroborative witnesses” all claim to have no knowledge of such a gathering. She is relying on memories that are 36 years old. Her BFF says she does not know Kavanaugh (and this was a SMALL gathering). Kavanaugh’s reputation throughout his adulthood has been impeccable. No complaints of ANY type of impropriety. She admits to having some psychological issues. Some say the alleged assault were a cause of these. We don’t know if that is the case. Not sharing her therapy notes with the committee. Too many holes in her memory to do any type of investigation to get to the truth. |
Anonymous
If you don't believe her you don't. There will never be proof like so so many sexual assaults. Millions believe her and millions don't. |
Anonymous
People who aren’t in a traumatic situation are always certain, with scant evidence, that they would be heroic in their actions. That is not how the brain works under trauma. Sometimes yes, sometimes no. It doesn’t mean she wasn’t scared. It doesn’t mea;it didn’t happen. |
Anonymous
The problem I have is the line that “We believe her because women are to believed.” This is such a bunch of crap. I am a woman and this kind of thinking simply undermines the cases where a woman is actually assaulted. There are ample very public cases where a woman should not be believed. But, as long as we go about believing every woman who makes a claim of sexual assault or rape, the real assaults become harder to prosecute. |