Question about re zoning elementary schools in S. Arlington

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These poor scores are stunning. You would expect that poors would have FEWER kids than non-poors, but the opposite is true. And how is it even possible to be poor — on a long term basis — in the Northern Virginia with all the jobs? Our non-English speaking nanny and her non-English speaking husband have been in this country for all of 3 years and make over $150k between the two of them. As long as CB and SB continue to legitimize and incentivize poors and the poor lifestyle, the schools will continue to deteriorate. In 5 years if things keep going the way they are, this forrest fire that is devastating the schools in the south will jump Route 50 to schools in NA and in a decade the entire public school system will be ablaze, north and south.

This a joke right? I mean, I’m as irritated with Arlington’s housing and school policies as the next south arlignton homeowner, but I’m not just making crap up to besmirch poor people. Get educated.

Why don’t you point to something you disagree with? The poor numbers, eg, 60-70, 80% sound about right to you? Its reasonable to you that this portion of kids in these south arlington schools have parents that don't make $40k a year or whatever it is not to be poor? Does that say anything about those parents- the types of decisions they make? The county wants to build more Barcroft 1300 unit low income apartments so more destitute can come here and have kids to flood the school systems. Any semi-literate, able-bodied person can make $40k a year by working full time. How do you think this story ends? How many more Barcrofts? 3, 5, 10 before it starts to bleed over route 50?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

Your attitude is not surprising.
This is exactly what I meant when I said nothing will change until the supposedly liberal majority in NA feels the consequences of the decisions made by the leaders they, not SA, elect. NA is completely insulated from the consequences of their policies, which they foist upon SA at will. The decision to "save Barcroft apartments" by buying up the development rights and prohibiting townhouse redevelopment along the Pike has costs. One of those costs is borne by Randolph Elementary. That school is, to be blunt, never going to improve.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

This poster's attitude is also symptomatic of the downside of segregation for those in N. Arlington. Lack of exposure to people with different backgrounds and cultures and socioeconomic status leads to entitled attitudes and lead to further problems at the college level or in the workforce. While perhaps the downside is less defined and extreme for those in the most segregated N. Arlington schools, it's not good for anyone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

Your attitude is not surprising.
This is exactly what I meant when I said nothing will change until the supposedly liberal majority in NA feels the consequences of the decisions made by the leaders they, not SA, elect. NA is completely insulated from the consequences of their policies, which they foist upon SA at will. The decision to "save Barcroft apartments" by buying up the development rights and prohibiting townhouse redevelopment along the Pike has costs. One of those costs is borne by Randolph Elementary. That school is, to be blunt, never going to improve.

It doesn't need to improve. What it needs to do is serve ALL the kids living in its neighborhood. It's okay if 80% of the kids don't speak English and have specialized instruction that focus on those needs. If it's going to do that, it must also serve the other 20% of native English speakers as well as Jamestown. If it means those 20% are segregated off from the other 80%, no problem. I'll vote for that in a heartbeat, and there are plenty of NA parents who would agree with me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

This poster's attitude is also symptomatic of the downside of segregation for those in N. Arlington. Lack of exposure to people with different backgrounds and cultures and socioeconomic status leads to entitled attitudes and lead to further problems at the college level or in the workforce. While perhaps the downside is less defined and extreme for those in the most segregated N. Arlington schools, it's not good for anyone.

Stop with the sociology. I just want my kids to be able to read and count. I suppose in your world that means im a racist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

So everyone on this board should realize that the above pp (the one immediately above me) is a troll.
I am at a NA school, and of course I care that people can't read or count. That's ridiculous. I've never heard anyone put down a SA school IRL, in fact I didn't even know that there was such a dychotomy until I started hanging out on DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

So everyone on this board should realize that the above pp (the one immediately above me) is a troll.
I am at a NA school, and of course I care that people can't read or count. That's ridiculous. I've never heard anyone put down a SA school IRL, in fact I didn't even know that there was such a dychotomy until I started hanging out on DCUM.

So this pearl clutcher knows every parent in NA and she says all of the posts by NA parents on this thread are false. We can all go home. Bless your heart honey.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

You may be terrible, but at least you're honest. There are plenty of NA parents who pretend to be accepting and have "everyone is welcome here" signs in their yards but could care less about the children a few miles south. If we're going to welcome everyone we should help them with the same educational opportunities as everyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

A number of NA elementary schools raise money on behalf of or sponsor (pay for) joint activities between NA and SA schools (e.g., visiting authors and other Enrichment). I know many NA parents who participate in SA online auctions to raise money for those PTAs. Other support is to do schoolwide drives to pay for summer school fees or summer enrichment tuition - or to fulfill wishlists of children and grocery store gift certificates at the holidays (organized by the school social worker). Do you want those parents and schools to stop doing that? Is that kind of help offensive to you?

Serious question.

I can’t change what the County and School Boards do with bad policy. I chose to live in NA for schools, to be near my office, and because I liked my house. Am I automatically a bad person?

No, you're not automatically a bad person. And you may not be a bad person at all. But the question was why should someone up north care about a kid in under-performing south. It's great that some north arlington folks participate in other school's auctions and help pay for a few summer school fees or enrichment classes, etc. Those things are not offensive; but they are mini-bandaids that do not eliminate the inequities and do not address the core problem. They maintain the status quo. You can help change bad policies by advocating and recruiting/voting for candidates who support change - or run yourself and work to implement change. You can help bad policy by rounding people up to support staff proposals that move things in the right direction instead of letting the SB stop all progress because it's upsetting others.

How about taking those PTA efforts farther and actually partnering with a school and splitting funds 50/50?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

A number of NA elementary schools raise money on behalf of or sponsor (pay for) joint activities between NA and SA schools (e.g., visiting authors and other Enrichment). I know many NA parents who participate in SA online auctions to raise money for those PTAs. Other support is to do schoolwide drives to pay for summer school fees or summer enrichment tuition - or to fulfill wishlists of children and grocery store gift certificates at the holidays (organized by the school social worker). Do you want those parents and schools to stop doing that? Is that kind of help offensive to you?

Serious question.

I can’t change what the County and School Boards do with bad policy. I chose to live in NA for schools, to be near my office, and because I liked my house. Am I automatically a bad person?

No, you're not. But your vote matters more than mine so it'd be helpful if you looked out for SA every now and then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

You seriously think Taylor kids won't be able to count if 15% of the students are eligible for FRL and/or are ELL? I'm fine with you being terrible, too - because you're Taylor and I don't expect Taylor to ever contribute to the greater good of the County.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

So everyone on this board should realize that the above pp (the one immediately above me) is a troll.
I am at a NA school, and of course I care that people can't read or count. That's ridiculous. I've never heard anyone put down a SA school IRL, in fact I didn't even know that there was such a dychotomy until I started hanging out on DCUM.

And THAT's a big part of the problem to be added to that list above about how NA has nothing to do with it: ignorance. People in this County need to get out of their own neighborhoods and sub-communities more - cross route 50 once in a while and hang out. We do have some restaurants, libraries, community centers, outdoor summer movies, Blues Festival and the Drafthouse.

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Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

So everyone on this board should realize that the above pp (the one immediately above me) is a troll.
I am at a NA school, and of course I care that people can't read or count. That's ridiculous. I've never heard anyone put down a SA school IRL, in fact I didn't even know that there was such a dychotomy until I started hanging out on DCUM.

So this pearl clutcher knows every parent in NA and she says all of the posts by NA parents on this thread are false. We can all go home. Bless your heart honey.

So I don't even own a pair of pearls. And yes, I think that a lot of the posts by "NA parents" on this thread are trolls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:this is an Arlington County problem, not a N/S problem. Route 50 isn't a wall of some sort. Its disgusting that people continue to perpetuate this idea that it is only S Arlington and the S Arlington UMC's problem to solve.

Except that the problem has absolutely nothing to do with NA. why should parents at taylor, for instance, care whether kids at hoffman boston can read? I dont really care. Do you?

It has a LOT to do with north Arlington:
NA's pushback against significant affordable housing in or near their neighborhoods.
NA's pushback on any efforts at boundaries that even slightly move the needle toward more balanced demographics across schools.
NA's persistent argument that SA parents need to speak up and demand more.
NA's persistent commentaries that you get what you pay for.
NA's persistent "advice" to move to NA if you want a better school.
NA parents who specifically bought, buy, and will buy only in NA to avoid SA.
NA parents rallying around a north arlington school cheated out of $80K but who don't rally around SA schools whose PTA budgets for 5 or more years cumulatively don't add up to the earnings of one NA school fundraiser.
NA not giving a crap that kids at hoffman boston can't read.
NA's attitude that as long as their kids are getting what they want them to have, nothing else matters - until what they have is somehow even slightly threatened.
NA's constant put-downs about SA schools.
NA parents who don't even know the ELL stats in schools and think Randolph's student body has only 22%

Why should people at Taylor care about Hoffman Boston? Because they live in Arlington; it's Arlington Public Schools; the reputation of APS affects them, too; it's the right thing to do; they'll need people to be able to read their adds for housekeepers and nannies they want to hire; because they have contributed to the perpetuation of the problem; and their "not my problem" perspective prohibits solutions to the problem.

Sorry, still not my problem. It becomes my problem. Whether or not the kids at Randolph can count is not even a blip on my radar screen. I do get concerned when people propose things that will lead to the kids at Taylor not being able to count. I know you must think Im terrible, but Im fine with it.

So everyone on this board should realize that the above pp (the one immediately above me) is a troll.
I am at a NA school, and of course I care that people can't read or count. That's ridiculous. I've never heard anyone put down a SA school IRL, in fact I didn't even know that there was such a dychotomy until I started hanging out on DCUM.

And THAT's a big part of the problem to be added to that list above about how NA has nothing to do with it: ignorance. People in this County need to get out of their own neighborhoods and sub-communities more - cross route 50 once in a while and hang out. We do have some restaurants, libraries, community centers, outdoor summer movies, Blues Festival and the Drafthouse.

So I lived in sa until I had kids, and then moved to na to be closer to work.
I think you need to understand that really only nw Arlington has any sway. 22207. 22201 is getting screwed — we got booted from both of our neighborhood schools (other than Lyon village, they of course will be fine). Try living in the east part of the county where every school within a mile of your house is an option school.
And no one is rallying around glebe.