FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

Just like in the broader boundary study: if you complain loudly enough, they will wuss out and leave you alone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

And the likelihood is that the kid will decide it is more important to go to school with their friends from ES and MS then take an obscure elective some point in time down the line. Especially if the kid is coming from a HS that offers said elective and it is popular. Skyview listened to the FMES families that were asking about Japanese and are offering Japanese at the school. There are enough 9th graders to have a Japanese 3 class. If there is an elective that is popular at Chantilly, that is not one of the Academy electives, let the Admin team know that you are interested. If enough people are and enough kids put it on their class list when they should be taking it, they will try and make it work. I know people from FMES that got phone calls from the Admin team at Skyview to talk to them about Japanese and what other classes parents wanted to make sure were there.

You know, it’s not just going to be like an expensive breakfast buffet where everyone gets to order their own omelet. If they offer Japanese, and only have 800 students, some other elective that families may have assumed would be offered will get cut.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

I don’t think it hinges on RIO, although clearly you’ve decided blaming everything you don’t like on RIO is going to resonate with others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

What I meant is the process not the rationale.

Should the school board members make a boundary decison based on the feedback and announce it without going through formal meetings/discussions?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

And the likelihood is that the kid will decide it is more important to go to school with their friends from ES and MS then take an obscure elective some point in time down the line. Especially if the kid is coming from a HS that offers said elective and it is popular. Skyview listened to the FMES families that were asking about Japanese and are offering Japanese at the school. There are enough 9th graders to have a Japanese 3 class. If there is an elective that is popular at Chantilly, that is not one of the Academy electives, let the Admin team know that you are interested. If enough people are and enough kids put it on their class list when they should be taking it, they will try and make it work. I know people from FMES that got phone calls from the Admin team at Skyview to talk to them about Japanese and what other classes parents wanted to make sure were there.

You know, it’s not just going to be like an expensive breakfast buffet where everyone gets to order their own omelet. If they offer Japanese, and only have 800 students, some other elective that families may have assumed would be offered will get cut.

World languages should be prioritized over other electives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

And the likelihood is that the kid will decide it is more important to go to school with their friends from ES and MS then take an obscure elective some point in time down the line. Especially if the kid is coming from a HS that offers said elective and it is popular. Skyview listened to the FMES families that were asking about Japanese and are offering Japanese at the school. There are enough 9th graders to have a Japanese 3 class. If there is an elective that is popular at Chantilly, that is not one of the Academy electives, let the Admin team know that you are interested. If enough people are and enough kids put it on their class list when they should be taking it, they will try and make it work. I know people from FMES that got phone calls from the Admin team at Skyview to talk to them about Japanese and what other classes parents wanted to make sure were there.

This is great news about Japanese.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

And the likelihood is that the kid will decide it is more important to go to school with their friends from ES and MS then take an obscure elective some point in time down the line. Especially if the kid is coming from a HS that offers said elective and it is popular. Skyview listened to the FMES families that were asking about Japanese and are offering Japanese at the school. There are enough 9th graders to have a Japanese 3 class. If there is an elective that is popular at Chantilly, that is not one of the Academy electives, let the Admin team know that you are interested. If enough people are and enough kids put it on their class list when they should be taking it, they will try and make it work. I know people from FMES that got phone calls from the Admin team at Skyview to talk to them about Japanese and what other classes parents wanted to make sure were there.

You know, it’s not just going to be like an expensive breakfast buffet where everyone gets to order their own omelet. If they offer Japanese, and only have 800 students, some other elective that families may have assumed would be offered will get cut.

World languages should be prioritized over other electives.

I’m sure they will offer a few. Just not all the ones people might like.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

Its exactly the same situation as RIO.

Literally *exactly the same*.
Two different, completely unbiased groups of consultants proposed that it made sense to move these two wealthy, well-connected neighborhoods of single family homes to schools they were very close by that needed seats filled. Residents of both neighborhoods had enormous tantrums and extracted special promises and special treatment from FCPS political hacks.

If you don't see how these situations are absolutely identical, then you must be seriously low IQ.

[Anonymous]

It will be incredibly racist and classist if the poor, minority-heavy Bull Run ES neighborhoods that also don't want to move high schools do not get treated the same as the Lees Corner/RIO tantrummers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

And the likelihood is that the kid will decide it is more important to go to school with their friends from ES and MS then take an obscure elective some point in time down the line. Especially if the kid is coming from a HS that offers said elective and it is popular. Skyview listened to the FMES families that were asking about Japanese and are offering Japanese at the school. There are enough 9th graders to have a Japanese 3 class. If there is an elective that is popular at Chantilly, that is not one of the Academy electives, let the Admin team know that you are interested. If enough people are and enough kids put it on their class list when they should be taking it, they will try and make it work. I know people from FMES that got phone calls from the Admin team at Skyview to talk to them about Japanese and what other classes parents wanted to make sure were there.

You know, it’s not just going to be like an expensive breakfast buffet where everyone gets to order their own omelet. If they offer Japanese, and only have 800 students, some other elective that families may have assumed would be offered will get cut.

World languages should be prioritized over other electives.

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Disagree.
The electives that should be prioritized are the ones that they can fill a 32+ HS student class with, in keeping with the county wide staffing formula.

Anything they can't staff can be taken online.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

And the likelihood is that the kid will decide it is more important to go to school with their friends from ES and MS then take an obscure elective some point in time down the line. Especially if the kid is coming from a HS that offers said elective and it is popular. Skyview listened to the FMES families that were asking about Japanese and are offering Japanese at the school. There are enough 9th graders to have a Japanese 3 class. If there is an elective that is popular at Chantilly, that is not one of the Academy electives, let the Admin team know that you are interested. If enough people are and enough kids put it on their class list when they should be taking it, they will try and make it work. I know people from FMES that got phone calls from the Admin team at Skyview to talk to them about Japanese and what other classes parents wanted to make sure were there.

You know, it’s not just going to be like an expensive breakfast buffet where everyone gets to order their own omelet. If they offer Japanese, and only have 800 students, some other elective that families may have assumed would be offered will get cut.

There are enough kids to run a class. If FMES ends up at Skyview there will be between 25-30 students for Japanese 3 and above, Japanese 1 and 2 are full at Carson.

My point is if there is enough interest in an elective it might be offered. Don’t assume that a rare elective at another school might not be available at Skyview. Talk to the Admin and encourage kids to put it on their schedules if they want to take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

I suppose people whose kids are taking obscure electives and AP classes will try to place at another school, but there aren't as many of those as you think.

You can't transfer to another school if your school doesn't offer the electives or AP classes you want. You are just stuck with what your school offers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

What I meant is the process not the rationale.

Should the school board members make a boundary decison based on the feedback and announce it without going through formal meetings/discussions?

Its absolutely crazy that mid-process, SB members are announcing that this school or that school won't be moved, when hired, independent consultants pinpointed those particular neighborhoods as those that made the most sense to move based on the factors they were given by FCPS.

How are the consultants supposed to suggest logical boundaries when the SB is tying their hands by building a moat around the wealthiest, loudest neighborhoods?

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Anonymous wrote:The original opt in, opt out plan was designed because of the lack of sports and electives into the second year. The admin team has said at many of the meetings that if they have close to 1,000 kids in the initial classes that they will have sports in the second year, with the exception of varsity football for safety purposes. That could change the opt out option in the second year but we don't know.

And with opt out, you are more likely to be in the minority staying at your base school. More families are not going to read the emails and end up at Skyview then read their email and chose to opt out. If transportation is provided to Skyview and not the old school, fewer kids are going to opt out of Skyview. It won't be like this year were there were more reasons to stay at the base school. There are going to fully running clubs, there is a list 30 clubs at the moment, sports, full freshman academics, and transportation.

We have no way of knowing now how many families will opt out of Skyview if they have an option. It depends largely on how the boundaries are drawn, how many students within the boundary have older siblings at other schools, and how Skyview functions in its first year. The new staff seems dedicated, but the roll-out has been chaotic; FCPS has not met its enrollment targets; and FCPS may be faced with a difficult decision to cut back on what Skyview offers or, conversely, spend far more per student at Skyview than at other schools and face criticism for that decision.

450 ninth graders opted in this year before they opened enrollment up to kids outside of the 5 schools. Do you really think that there is going to be a large number of people opting out next year? They have 800 kids enrolled at Skyview and have been upfront that they cannot offer as many electives the first year because they won't have the student numbers for some electives. That said, they mainly need electives that are available to freshman and sophomores so they don't need a full slate of electives. There will be more options in the second year because they will have 400-500 more kids.

I think it is safe to say that there are a good number of parents who don't pay attention to the school emails and will not be opting out simply because they don't read their emails. There have been parents asking about opt-in options from the 5 original schools targeted since March 1 because they never looked at the emails.

With a brand new school, a year under it's belt, an enthusiastic staff, and sports I suspect you will find more people wanting to attend Skyview. And there will be people who send their kids because it means they have transportation even if they would slightly prefer the old school. Does it really matter that your kids are at the same school if you end up having to drive one to school for 2-3 years because they are being pupil placed and transportation for your neighborhood no longer exists?

The kids opting out will be in the minority. They want to be at school with their friends and it will be more convenient for most families. And it is shiny and new.

Shiny and new doesn’t matter to people as much as whether a school can offer what a family wants, compared to the available alternatives. The verdict is still out on what the Skyview experience will look like in a year. Limited electives might not matter much at a middle school, but that will be a bigger concern at a high school.

I agree there will be plenty of families in boundary for Skyview who’ll ignore school communications so their kids will end up there by default. Others will pay more attention.

And the likelihood is that the kid will decide it is more important to go to school with their friends from ES and MS then take an obscure elective some point in time down the line. Especially if the kid is coming from a HS that offers said elective and it is popular. Skyview listened to the FMES families that were asking about Japanese and are offering Japanese at the school. There are enough 9th graders to have a Japanese 3 class. If there is an elective that is popular at Chantilly, that is not one of the Academy electives, let the Admin team know that you are interested. If enough people are and enough kids put it on their class list when they should be taking it, they will try and make it work. I know people from FMES that got phone calls from the Admin team at Skyview to talk to them about Japanese and what other classes parents wanted to make sure were there.

You know, it’s not just going to be like an expensive breakfast buffet where everyone gets to order their own omelet. If they offer Japanese, and only have 800 students, some other elective that families may have assumed would be offered will get cut.

There are enough kids to run a class. If FMES ends up at Skyview there will be between 25-30 students for Japanese 3 and above, Japanese 1 and 2 are full at Carson.

My point is if there is enough interest in an elective it might be offered. Don’t assume that a rare elective at another school might not be available at Skyview. Talk to the Admin and encourage kids to put it on their schedules if they want to take it.

I take your point, but it’s a very imperfect way to interest kids in a new school. Maybe a group of kids who know each other march largely in lock step and come up with their preferred electives in a group chat. That leaves a lot of others on the outside looking in. Meanwhile you can at least access a course catalog at your current base school.

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Anonymous wrote:McDaniel:

Based on the feedback from the Lees Corner community, it is our expectation that Lees Corner remains within the Chantilly High School pyramid.

Can he and Dixit unilaterally decide that LC is not moving? Based on the feedback?

This is worse than the RIO situation.

The school board makes the final decision. And, no, this is not like RIO at all. Lees Corner has valid reasons to object that are based in reality, not emotion. They would not be in the mix but for RIO.

Its exactly the same situation as RIO.

No. Look at a map.