War with Iran Part II

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:this is a good plan, america should take over the straight just like the panama canal

This plan does not give us control of the strait, are you nuts

The MAGAs are so desperate for this to be anything other than a total humiliation for Trump and his idiotic war.

Iran really pissed of their neighbors by closing a straight that is not theirs to close. Iran is now hated by all the neighboring Muslim countries

Iran has *always* been hated by its neighbors. All it does is fund terrorism in other countries.

That’s not true. Israel is hated by its neighbors for funding terrorism not Iran.

Yup, attacking or invading 7 or 8 countries at the same time all while using terrorist proxy groups like ISIS to promote terrorism has made Israel the pariah rogue terrorist state of the Middle East.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to

Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.

THIS IS FALSE.

The US has NOT agreed to this!

Yes they have. All of the things list can only be changed if the US and Israel want to invade. These are the same demand Iran has had from the beginning of the war.

Here is the wording of what the president said.
“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to NEGOTIATE.”
IOW - this has NOT been accepted. It is a basis for negotiations. Trump will never allow Iran to continue to enrich Uranium.

And, my prediction is that ships will transit the strait WITHOUT paying a fee.

But if Iran does not stop bombing Israel like it is currently doing, all bets are off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, it is sooooo much worse

- we've solved the artificial crisis we created
- at least 13 American servicemembera KIA to say nothing of unknown WIA
- Hormuz no longer free to transit ($2M/ship)
- Iran gets $$$ and benefits from taking the strait
- Iran assumes they can keep their uranium and enrich it

Do NOT believe the shit other people are posting. They are pulling it off social media from Iran’s talking points. It is false.

DP. True, but this entire forum has been full of this crap since the war started. Tons of trolls pushing idiotic social media garbage, much of it Iranian propaganda.

Oh no don’t like the winning? Trump is walking away and will he will never talk about this again. The US will quietly start shutting down the 13 bases in the regime over the next year or so. Good luck, Israeli. You are on your own.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to

Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.

THIS IS FALSE.

The US has NOT agreed to this!

Yes they have. All of the things list can only be changed if the US and Israel want to invade. These are the same demand Iran has had from the beginning of the war.

Here is the wording of what the president said.
“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to NEGOTIATE.”
IOW - this has NOT been accepted. It is a basis for negotiations. Trump will never allow Iran to continue to enrich Uranium.

And, my prediction is that ships will transit the strait WITHOUT paying a fee.

But if Iran does not stop bombing Israel like it is currently doing, all bets are off.

Tell me what points will Iran give up in negotiations? Remember you have just bombed them for over a months and not one of their demands has changed. Iran holds all the cards. These points are not demands they are facts on the ground.

F Israel. Israel is never honors a ceasefire. Israel needs a good kick in the head.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it is sooooo much worse

- we've solved the artificial crisis we created
- at least 13 American servicemembera KIA to say nothing of unknown WIA
- Hormuz no longer free to transit ($2M/ship)
- Iran gets $$$ and benefits from taking the strait
- Iran assumes they can keep their uranium and enrich it

Do NOT believe the shit other people are posting. They are pulling it off social media from Iran’s talking points. It is false.

Oh sure because Trump and Hegseth have been so honest and forthright. It's not like they threatened newspapers for honoring our American dead and insisted satellites to be turned off in the region.

[Anonymous]

My fears truly are over the Isrealis because they WILL not accept this. They are getting bombed left and right and their daddy has a ceasefire with the iranians. They might just nuke sombody because of this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to

Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.

THIS IS FALSE.

The US has NOT agreed to this!

Yes they have. All of the things list can only be changed if the US and Israel want to invade. These are the same demand Iran has had from the beginning of the war.

Here is the wording of what the president said.
“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to NEGOTIATE.”
IOW - this has NOT been accepted. It is a basis for negotiations. Trump will never allow Iran to continue to enrich Uranium.

And, my prediction is that ships will transit the strait WITHOUT paying a fee.

But if Iran does not stop bombing Israel like it is currently doing, all bets are off.

Tell me what points will Iran give up in negotiations? Remember you have just bombed them for over a months and not one of their demands has changed. Iran holds all the cards. These points are not demands they are facts on the ground.

F Israel. Israel is never honors a ceasefire. Israel needs a good kick in the head.

Iran has no navy. They have no Air Force. Their leadership and 2nd tier leadership is dead. They have been made a pariah in the region. And you think they hold all the cards?? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

And if you’re not paying attention, Israel is not the one violating the ceasefire right now. That would be Iran.

What the hell is wrong with you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My fears truly are over the Isrealis because they WILL not accept this. They are getting bombed left and right and their daddy has a ceasefire with the iranians. They might just nuke sombody because of this.

Just stop.
You are sounding like you hope they do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to

Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.

THIS IS FALSE.

The US has NOT agreed to this!

Yes they have. All of the things list can only be changed if the US and Israel want to invade. These are the same demand Iran has had from the beginning of the war.

Here is the wording of what the president said.
“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to NEGOTIATE.”
IOW - this has NOT been accepted. It is a basis for negotiations. Trump will never allow Iran to continue to enrich Uranium.

And, my prediction is that ships will transit the strait WITHOUT paying a fee.

But if Iran does not stop bombing Israel like it is currently doing, all bets are off.

Tell me what points will Iran give up in negotiations? Remember you have just bombed them for over a months and not one of their demands has changed. Iran holds all the cards. These points are not demands they are facts on the ground.

F Israel. Israel is never honors a ceasefire. Israel needs a good kick in the head.

Iran has no navy. They have no Air Force. Their leadership and 2nd tier leadership is dead. They have been made a pariah in the region. And you think they hold all the cards?? Ha ha ha ha ha ha.

And if you’re not paying attention, Israel is not the one violating the ceasefire right now. That would be Iran.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Umm, how many times has Israel violated the ceasefire in Lebanon this past year? Yeah, that's what I thought

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to

Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.

THIS IS FALSE.

The US has NOT agreed to this!

Yes they have. All of the things list can only be changed if the US and Israel want to invade. These are the same demand Iran has had from the beginning of the war.

Here is the wording of what the president said.
“We received a 10 point proposal from Iran, and believe it is a workable basis on which to NEGOTIATE.”
IOW - this has NOT been accepted. It is a basis for negotiations. Trump will never allow Iran to continue to enrich Uranium.

And, my prediction is that ships will transit the strait WITHOUT paying a fee.

But if Iran does not stop bombing Israel like it is currently doing, all bets are off.

Care you revise your prediction?

"The two-week ceasefire plan includes allowing both Iran and Oman to charge fees on ships transiting through the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow mouth of the Persian Gulf, a regional official said Wednesday.

The official said Iran would use the money it raised for reconstruction. It wasn’t immediately clear what Oman would use its money for.

The strait is in the territorial waters of both Oman and Iran. The world had considered the passage an international waterway and never paid tolls before.

The official, who had been directly involved in the negotiations, spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss internal deliberations."

https://apnews.com/live/iran-war-israel-trump-04-07-2026#0000019d-6a85-d1f7-a9bf-6adf0b450000

[Anonymous]

Let's hope the US-Israel parasitic relationship will be dramatically revised once the dust settles. And that the rest of the world treats Israel as the global pariah that it is.

Otherwise this conflict will never end and we'll start having to look at Turkey next.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Wow, it is sooooo much worse

- we've solved the artificial crisis we created
- at least 13 American servicemembera KIA to say nothing of unknown WIA
- Hormuz no longer free to transit ($2M/ship)
- Iran gets $$$ and benefits from taking the strait
- Iran assumes they can keep their uranium and enrich it

Do NOT believe the shit other people are posting. They are pulling it off social media from Iran’s talking points. It is false.

Post what the U.S. agreed to then.

1. Cease fire

2. Open Strait

That's it. Everything else is up for negotiation during the cease fire.

[Anonymous]

AP:

JUST IN: Abu Dhabi officials say its Habshan gas-processing facility is ablaze after earlier reporting incoming Iranian fir

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These are the things Trump has agree to

Key Points of the Proposal
Security Guarantees: A permanent end to the war and a formal guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again.
Sanctions Relief: The immediate lifting of all U.S. and international sanctions.
Regional De-escalation: An end to Israeli strikes in Lebanon and against other Iranian allies.
Strait of Hormuz Reopening: Iran agrees to reopen the vital shipping route under specific protocols.
Transit Fees: Implementation of a $2 million fee per ship transiting the Strait. Iran proposes splitting these proceeds with Oman.
Reconstruction Funding: Iran plans to use its share of the shipping fees to fund the reconstruction of infrastructure destroyed during the conflict instead of seeking direct reparations.
Nuclear Commitment: A reported commitment by Iran to not seek nuclear weapons and a request for recognition of its right to enrich uranium for peaceful purposes.
Frozen Assets: The release of all Iranian funds and assets frozen by the United States.

THIS IS FALSE.

The US has NOT agreed to this!

Trump will agree to this because he boxed himself into a corner. His hubris and arrogance has gotten us here. if it weren’t so devastating for the world I would be laughing.