Move TSP to G for a bit?

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Anonymous wrote:I tuned out of this thread for a while because I thought our resident market timer was trolling.

I got weak and checked.

Bud, you’re like a broken clock that’s right twice a day. You’re convinced you’re correct but you’re not. You will lose out in the long run if you continue to try and time the market.

Op here. lol. It lives rent free in your head that I was right about G.

I’m still waiting it out. You can enjoy the downtrend. I’ll move into C and I when it’s 30% lower and it will go that much lower. Sorry you weren’t able to see the obvious market down turn coming.

https://thehill.com/opinion/finance/5814974-middle-class-decline-permanent-crisis/

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read whole thread, but I put about 30% into G when Trump started his madness back in 2035. Only regret is that I didn’t put more there. I truly think he is hellbent on ruining this country. He knows he is hated and this is his middle finger to us.

What a bad decision. Hopefully you are near retirement, otherwise that is likely a very costly mistake.

Preserving capital until there is more clarity on world events is never a mistake.

This is market timing. Of course it is a mistake.

OP had good instincts, but as a rule don’t use feelings or hunches. Same with the people agreeing with him that use Trump as part of their reasoning. Don’t let your bias sway your investing.

The actual data supports OP. The SP500 broke down and is now in a a downward trend below the 200 day MA. Don’t be swayed by big up days. The biggest up days often come in downtrends. It is ok to miss those. People like to give the stats when you miss the biggest up days, but never seem to give them when you miss the biggest down days. Nobody was better off for being fully invested on Black Monday. That’s just nuts. It didn’t come out of nowhere either, the market was dropping for over a month before it.

Ask your favorite AI how growth stocks behave with rising inflation and rising long duration bonds like we have right now.

Also, Buffet is sitting on his largest cash balance ever. I guess he is just a novice investor that doesn’t know anything, but I think he probably understands what the Buffet indicator and CAPE ratio mean.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read whole thread, but I put about 30% into G when Trump started his madness back in 2035. Only regret is that I didn’t put more there. I truly think he is hellbent on ruining this country. He knows he is hated and this is his middle finger to us.

What a bad decision. Hopefully you are near retirement, otherwise that is likely a very costly mistake.

Preserving capital until there is more clarity on world events is never a mistake.

This is market timing. Of course it is a mistake.

What you call market timing, I call reducing risk. I don't care to go down with the ship 20, 30, 50%. I can easily get back in once things resolve.

It’s just as likely or more likely to go up 20, 30, 50 percent in the next year. Point is you don’t know. You can’t time it.

Time in market > timing the market. They'll get the lesson when they're hesitant to jump back in and miss plenty of gains. Or they'll time this perfectly and get an inflated sense of importance and completely miss the next big move when they mistime it.

You don't even understand what you own. You have been spoiled from the fantastic run since 2008. These type of returns are atypical and I do not believe they can continue indefinitely. There have been periods of time where stocks went nowhere for 10+ years. The last one was the early 2000's. I believe we are entering another one of these phases. Why on earth would I put my money in something that I believe is overvalued? It's not "timing the market". It's common sense. There will be a better time and place to invest my money.

You don’t know anything and neither do I. It’s why I don’t time the market - I dollar cost average into the market to take advantage down periods. You’re strategy is not smart because you dont know when that better time and place will be. My strategy doesn’t require a “better time and place.”

I stated previously I know how to read a stock chart. This one is in downtrend, below 200 day moving average, after a broad topping pattern. There's also been no sign of capitulation that typically marks bottoms. Until any of that changes, cash is king my friend.

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Anonymous wrote:Didn’t read whole thread, but I put about 30% into G when Trump started his madness back in 2035. Only regret is that I didn’t put more there. I truly think he is hellbent on ruining this country. He knows he is hated and this is his middle finger to us.

What a bad decision. Hopefully you are near retirement, otherwise that is likely a very costly mistake.

Preserving capital until there is more clarity on world events is never a mistake.

This is market timing. Of course it is a mistake.

What you call market timing, I call reducing risk. I don't care to go down with the ship 20, 30, 50%. I can easily get back in once things resolve.

It’s just as likely or more likely to go up 20, 30, 50 percent in the next year. Point is you don’t know. You can’t time it.

Time in market > timing the market. They'll get the lesson when they're hesitant to jump back in and miss plenty of gains. Or they'll time this perfectly and get an inflated sense of importance and completely miss the next big move when they mistime it.

You don't even understand what you own. You have been spoiled from the fantastic run since 2008. These type of returns are atypical and I do not believe they can continue indefinitely. There have been periods of time where stocks went nowhere for 10+ years. The last one was the early 2000's. I believe we are entering another one of these phases. Why on earth would I put my money in something that I believe is overvalued? It's not "timing the market". It's common sense. There will be a better time and place to invest my money.

You don’t know anything and neither do I. It’s why I don’t time the market - I dollar cost average into the market to take advantage down periods. You’re strategy is not smart because you dont know when that better time and place will be. My strategy doesn’t require a “better time and place.”

In the long, long run you will probably be okay and you will be up.

But right now being in G or in bonds or SGOV or similar and not in equities is probably the smarter play. We’ve had a few big red days and are in correction territory. I think we have further down to go. The decisions being made right now are fking idiotic. I’m gonna stay on the sidelines for a few weeks or longer. “Oh well” if the market magically shoots up. It won’t, but oh well. We are due for a massive correction after this decade run.

Don’t assume bonds are safe if inflation spikes. Yields are already rising. You should be thankful you have the option for G fund and can get a risk free 3.5 or 4%.

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OP is a troll.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll.

I’m not trolling. This entire thread is about how I was asking if anyone else got very concerned about recent events, stats and economic trends and sad “fk it” and moved their tsp to G to preserve their gains. The G fund does not lose capital.

I did a month ago and have no regrets and am basically fending off annoying bogleheads on here irate because I was able to “time the market”. It’s not even timing. There just isn’t a good economic case right now to be buying equities unless they’re defensive things like commodities and consumer staples. Even then it may be smarter to hold cash in SGOV and to just be cautious. I think we have a lot further down for the stock market to fall.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is a troll.

I’m not trolling. This entire thread is about how I was asking if anyone else got very concerned about recent events, stats and economic trends and sad “fk it” and moved their tsp to G to preserve their gains. The G fund does not lose capital.

I did a month ago and have no regrets and am basically fending off annoying bogleheads on here irate because I was able to “time the market”. It’s not even timing. There just isn’t a good economic case right now to be buying equities unless they’re defensive things like commodities and consumer staples. Even then it may be smarter to hold cash in SGOV and to just be cautious. I think we have a lot further down for the stock market to fall.

The S&P 500 is down a few percentage points. I don’t understand how you are even claiming victory…

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The highly sophisticated investors on this thread are now comparing themselves to Warren Buffet!

Massive egos or delusional?

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Anonymous wrote:The highly sophisticated investors on this thread are now comparing themselves to Warren Buffet!

Massive egos or delusional?

And you think adamantly taking the opposite view of Biffet doesn’t make you sound delusional? Your ego is so large you need to prove you make better investment decisions that Buffet?

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Anonymous wrote:The highly sophisticated investors on this thread are now comparing themselves to Warren Buffet!

Massive egos or delusional?

And you think adamantly taking the opposite view of Biffet doesn’t make you sound delusional? Your ego is so large you need to prove you make better investment decisions that Buffet?

Buffet is sitting on like a 340bn cash stock pile right now, so my sitting in G is not a bad call. I am holding G because I really do want to be in C or I or a combo, but I think I can park my money in G for a while while the market keeps falling. I think I am right about this. I have been right the last 30 days since I moved from I to G and I think time will prove me right. If not, you cucks on here can laugh at my expense. However, you all read the news I hope. You see the pessimism, lack of jobs, inflation, oil prices and the like. You all really think the S&P is just itching to rally over the next few years? I don’t. I think we are headed for a massive recession or at best a hard economic time. Once I feel the market is in sufficiently down, I will move to C or I and have been able to buy more shares because I sat in G and didn’t lose principle. It ain’t that crazy.

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Anonymous wrote:The highly sophisticated investors on this thread are now comparing themselves to Warren Buffet!

Massive egos or delusional?

And you think adamantly taking the opposite view of Biffet doesn’t make you sound delusional? Your ego is so large you need to prove you make better investment decisions that Buffet?

Buffet is sitting on like a 340bn cash stock pile right now, so my sitting in G is not a bad call. I am holding G because I really do want to be in C or I or a combo, but I think I can park my money in G for a while while the market keeps falling. I think I am right about this. I have been right the last 30 days since I moved from I to G and I think time will prove me right. If not, you cucks on here can laugh at my expense. However, you all read the news I hope. You see the pessimism, lack of jobs, inflation, oil prices and the like. You all really think the S&P is just itching to rally over the next few years? I don’t. I think we are headed for a massive recession or at best a hard economic time. Once I feel the market is in sufficiently down, I will move to C or I and have been able to buy more shares because I sat in G and didn’t lose principle. It ain’t that crazy.

Buffet is using that cash pile to buy businesses at attractive valuations. Your cash pile is just sitting there.

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Anonymous wrote:The highly sophisticated investors on this thread are now comparing themselves to Warren Buffet!

Massive egos or delusional?

And you think adamantly taking the opposite view of Biffet doesn’t make you sound delusional? Your ego is so large you need to prove you make better investment decisions that Buffet?

Buffet is sitting on like a 340bn cash stock pile right now, so my sitting in G is not a bad call. I am holding G because I really do want to be in C or I or a combo, but I think I can park my money in G for a while while the market keeps falling. I think I am right about this. I have been right the last 30 days since I moved from I to G and I think time will prove me right. If not, you cucks on here can laugh at my expense. However, you all read the news I hope. You see the pessimism, lack of jobs, inflation, oil prices and the like. You all really think the S&P is just itching to rally over the next few years? I don’t. I think we are headed for a massive recession or at best a hard economic time. Once I feel the market is in sufficiently down, I will move to C or I and have been able to buy more shares because I sat in G and didn’t lose principle. It ain’t that crazy.

Buffet is using that cash pile to buy businesses at attractive valuations. Your cash pile is just sitting there.

Sitting in G not losing value while the market drops from global issues, tariff impacts, cpi, PPI, and oil shocks…yeah I’m fine. It feels great. I’m sure Fox is telling you all about great things are. I’m gonna hang out and chill. Have fun on the downtrend.

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Anonymous wrote:The highly sophisticated investors on this thread are now comparing themselves to Warren Buffet!

Massive egos or delusional?

And you think adamantly taking the opposite view of Biffet doesn’t make you sound delusional? Your ego is so large you need to prove you make better investment decisions that Buffet?

Buffet is sitting on like a 340bn cash stock pile right now, so my sitting in G is not a bad call. I am holding G because I really do want to be in C or I or a combo, but I think I can park my money in G for a while while the market keeps falling. I think I am right about this. I have been right the last 30 days since I moved from I to G and I think time will prove me right. If not, you cucks on here can laugh at my expense. However, you all read the news I hope. You see the pessimism, lack of jobs, inflation, oil prices and the like. You all really think the S&P is just itching to rally over the next few years? I don’t. I think we are headed for a massive recession or at best a hard economic time. Once I feel the market is in sufficiently down, I will move to C or I and have been able to buy more shares because I sat in G and didn’t lose principle. It ain’t that crazy.

Buffet is using that cash pile to buy businesses at attractive valuations. Your cash pile is just sitting there.

Sitting in G not losing value while the market drops from global issues, tariff impacts, cpi, PPI, and oil shocks…yeah I’m fine. It feels great. I’m sure Fox is telling you all about great things are. I’m gonna hang out and chill. Have fun on the downtrend.

Can't lose with this strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:The highly sophisticated investors on this thread are now comparing themselves to Warren Buffet!

Massive egos or delusional?

And you think adamantly taking the opposite view of Biffet doesn’t make you sound delusional? Your ego is so large you need to prove you make better investment decisions that Buffet?

Buffet is sitting on like a 340bn cash stock pile right now, so my sitting in G is not a bad call. I am holding G because I really do want to be in C or I or a combo, but I think I can park my money in G for a while while the market keeps falling. I think I am right about this. I have been right the last 30 days since I moved from I to G and I think time will prove me right. If not, you cucks on here can laugh at my expense. However, you all read the news I hope. You see the pessimism, lack of jobs, inflation, oil prices and the like. You all really think the S&P is just itching to rally over the next few years? I don’t. I think we are headed for a massive recession or at best a hard economic time. Once I feel the market is in sufficiently down, I will move to C or I and have been able to buy more shares because I sat in G and didn’t lose principle. It ain’t that crazy.

Buffet is using that cash pile to buy businesses at attractive valuations. Your cash pile is just sitting there.

Sitting in G not losing value while the market drops from global issues, tariff impacts, cpi, PPI, and oil shocks…yeah I’m fine. It feels great. I’m sure Fox is telling you all about great things are. I’m gonna hang out and chill. Have fun on the downtrend.

Bleeding heart liberal who knows market timing is stupid, but thanks for your concern.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s going to crash on Monday

Wrong yet again.