what is wrong with modern kids and no motivation to shovel?

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.


BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.



Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.


You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20


This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!


My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.


A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.


Exactly. Not to mention many elderly are on a fixed income and $10 is huge for them
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Anonymous wrote:Kids still do this in our neighborhood in MoCo. They also go around in the summer and offer to wash your car.


And now your lawn. Good to know some kids are still being raised right.
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Anonymous wrote:It's the parents.
The same parents who think their little darling deserves to be paid like a professional nanny for babysitting but complain about actually paying a nanny a proper rate.

Spoiled.


Box of donuts says this clown is the type to complain about tipping at a restaurant.


You'd be out a box of donuts.
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Anonymous wrote:Well, when mommy and daddy are still giving them monthly allowances all the way through college.... My DS goes to college with a lot of wealthy kids and he tells me stories about his roommates whining to their parents that their monthly allowance isn't enough. One of them said his was $300/month and the other one said his way $500. They live in on-campus apartments and have meal plans. They don't understand that my son spends his evenings and weekends working at a PT job and that I don't give him an allowance.


Just take a look at the adult child forum so many willing to let their college graduates offspring move back in and not work. Generation coddled.
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My 15yo was out with DH and me on Sunday and Monday shoveling our driveway/sidewalk and our neighbor's (elderly-ish with history of cardiac issues). Today he's been out all afternoon with a friend digging out some other neighbors. It's hard work with all of the ice, it's not like a normal snowstorm!
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Anonymous wrote:Many of these kids are studying because that is their full time job and they carry heavy academic loads that include tons of honors and AP classes. So let them study OP, they want to work smart and not hard when they grow up. Besides many neighborhoods have crews to come in and do that hard work.


Kids can do multiple things.
And they are not learning to work smarter. They are learning to be lazy and entitled. The results are in a gen x sucks as parents
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My son and his friend (along with help from 3 adults) shoveled 5 houses in our neighborhood. They would have loved to do more, but it was brutal work and not something they ever could have done on their own.
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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.


BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.



Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.


You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20


This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!


My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.


A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.


Exactly. Not to mention many elderly are on a fixed income and $10 is huge for them


Go ahead and post your number here and we’ll have the elderly call you so you can work instead of calling hardworking teenagers “indecent” for not wanting to shovel for 10$/hr. It’s brutal out there and paying a teen 10$/hr to shovel is abusive. It’s not even minimum wage.
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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.


BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.



Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.


You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20


This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!


My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.


A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.


Exactly. Not to mention many elderly are on a fixed income and $10 is huge for them


Well, then have your own kids and grandkids shovel for you for free, whom you so lovingly raised.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.


BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.



Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.


You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20


This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!


My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.


A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.


Exactly. Not to mention many elderly are on a fixed income and $10 is huge for them


Well, then have your own kids and grandkids shovel for you for free, whom you so lovingly raised.


+1. Seriously. It’s so obnoxious to call kids “not decent” for being unhappy to be paid a slave wage for backbreaking work. I would tell my kid to ask for more money because that is not correct behavior, even from an elderly person.

If someone has a house in the urban DMV area, which is costly, they can afford to pay more than 10$/hr for emergency work that an adult would charge 50$-80$ for. If not, they should move into somewhere smaller and cheaper that requires less maintenance.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.


BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.



Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.


You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20


Minimum wage is like $15 an hour. $20 for a term is good money. Mine just finished and probably got the equivalent of $17-18 an hour and he was happy as a clam. He can’t wait until this summer when he will be old enough for a job.


Um - do you live here? it's more than an hour for most driveways with this storm.



Yes. If your kid turns his nose up at being paid more than minimum wage to shovel, take a look at yourself. Most kids would love to make $17-18 an hour. I guess if you give them whatever they want, I understand why they aren’t motivated. And stop with the “they are too busy studying” BS. Public school is easy these days. Even private school isn’t more than a few hours of work each day. What are they doing with the rest of their time?
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Anonymous wrote:If you didn't have teens in your neighborhood shoveling it says more about where you chose to live than it says about teens "these days"... teens and tweens were out all day here shoveling.


Economic segregation.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.


BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.



Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.


You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20


This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!


My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.


A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.


Actually, a decent family would shovel an elderly neighbors walk together. A decent family is not sending their teen out by themselves to do charity work to feel good about themselves. They take a few hours off of work and they do it with them.
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Anonymous wrote:If you didn't have teens in your neighborhood shoveling it says more about where you chose to live than it says about teens "these days"... teens and tweens were out all day here shoveling.


Economic segregation.


Nope

Morality segregation
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.


BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.



Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.


You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20


This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!


My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.


A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.


Actually, a decent family would shovel an elderly neighbors walk together. A decent family is not sending their teen out by themselves to do charity work to feel good about themselves. They take a few hours off of work and they do it with them.


+1 Wtf. If you want to do volunteer work, go and do it. Don’t blame a hardworking teenager for being annoyed by stingy grandpa who thinks that shoveling is only worth 10$ an hour.
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