what is wrong with modern kids and no motivation to shovel?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

[Anonymous]

My 17 yo went out and shoveled Sunday and Monday. He did ours and his grandpas with DH. In past years, he also helped with an elderly neighbor (as did his brother who is now at college). He was exhausted and near his breaking point by the time he finished Monday. He has several friends who shovel for money in the neighborhood so there are definitely teens out there but they are in high demand and the jobs are taking 3-4x as long as a typical snow. This storm was brutal to clear even for the young and healthy. I don’t think it’s fair to criticize kids who choose not to clear for what most people are willing to pay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

Are you the same parent who claimed your kid got only $10 and was so mature about it? But now we learn you had to bribe him to stop complaining?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Shoveling snow isn't like a lot of jobs and it's so cold today. My teen got stopped by a neighbor while shoveling another house who asked him to do their house today. That house hasn't been shoveled at all, not Sunday, not Monday, and they gave him a crappy plastic shovel and no salt/de-icing agent and gave him 30$ to do a fairly large sidewalk, driveway and stairs. I can see him from our house chipping away slowly at the ice.

He came back to our house to get our metal shovel and our de-icing agent, and it's ok to me because they're neighbors (even if they're not very near neighbors), but some people just don't understand what is involved in getting rid of snow. 30$ isn't enough for a big house where they don't even have their own salt to de-ice in weather like this.

I would not let my kid do this, sorry. Return that $30 and save your back, kid.

You are wise. My kid returned sore and unhappy and our good metal shovel's handle is now broken from chipping away at that ice. They gave him $40 rather than $30 because they felt bad about the shovel, but basically we have to go out this weekend and buy a new shovel and probably some more de-icing agent to get through the next storms. Sigh.

Basically you're out money after trying to help a neighbor. No good deed goes unpunished.

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Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

Are you the same parent who claimed your kid got only $10 and was so mature about it? But now we learn you had to bribe him to stop complaining?

If you're so cheap, shovel your snow yourself and keep your $10!

[Anonymous]

My teen just made $50 shoveling for a few hours. He is psyched and just asked me to put up an ad on our neighborhood listserv. He is 15 and doesn’t get an allowance. I probably wouldn’t want to shovel either if my parents gave me an allowance.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

Minimum wage is like $15 an hour. $20 for a term is good money. Mine just finished and probably got the equivalent of $17-18 an hour and he was happy as a clam. He can’t wait until this summer when he will be old enough for a job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My teen just made $50 shoveling for a few hours. He is psyched and just asked me to put up an ad on our neighborhood listserv. He is 15 and doesn’t get an allowance. I probably wouldn’t want to shovel either if my parents gave me an allowance.

My 15 yo does soccer refereeing on weekends and that pays better than shoveling.

[Anonymous]

Why can’t you shovel yourself? My teens did ours and a few neighbors who couldn’t for free. That was plenty. Not everything is about money. My kids still have schoolwork and studying. Stop being lazy and shovel yourself.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My teen just made $50 shoveling for a few hours. He is psyched and just asked me to put up an ad on our neighborhood listserv. He is 15 and doesn’t get an allowance. I probably wouldn’t want to shovel either if my parents gave me an allowance.

My 15 yo does soccer refereeing on weekends and that pays better than shoveling.

That’s great. My kid doesn’t play sports because he was bullied on the few teams he played on. Kids (and their parents) can be real a-holes. He can’t wait to go out tomorrow and I’m happy for him.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

This x1000. If they are boomers, they will pay even less if the kid is younger. My aunt was complaining that the boy Nextdoor she hired to water her outdoor plants, sweep their porch, bring in mail, take trash cans to the curb etc was not reliable and she was paying him a full dollar! A dollar, a cold buck!

My poor kid had an elderly neighbor who asked him last year to shovel, and for an hour's work for a fairly large house/driveway, he was paid 10$. I told my kid not to complain and paid him an extra 20$. But he didn't shovel for that neighbor this year again.

A decent teen would do an elderly neighbor for free. Mine did. One day you will need the help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you shovel yourself? My teens did ours and a few neighbors who couldn’t for free. That was plenty. Not everything is about money. My kids still have schoolwork and studying. Stop being lazy and shovel yourself.

All four of us have shoveled 2-3 times a day for the past two days and we still haven’t finished. It’s a lot. First someone chisels the snow and then we pick it up and throw it out of the way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

Minimum wage is like $15 an hour. $20 for a term is good money. Mine just finished and probably got the equivalent of $17-18 an hour and he was happy as a clam. He can’t wait until this summer when he will be old enough for a job.

Um - do you live here? it's more than an hour for most driveways with this storm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College age kids went out with a group of friends (6 in total) and shoveled Sunday/Monday. They each made over $250/day.

There weren't many other offering so they had to decline several jobs due to time/cold/difficulty.

If your kid wanted to, the money was sitting there.

BS - the money is on the easy snow removal. This is hard work and maybe they were actually paid an appropriate wage by some homeowners, but the people complaining want to pay well below the market rate for some random "local kids". I know because I shoveled my long driveway myself over the course of 2 days.

Lol. Ok, you can call BS all you want. It WAS hard work (DH and I did our house while they were making money.) They came home exhausted both nights. But $500 is a lot to college kids. They got rave reviews on our neighborhood listserve and their phone was blowing up with people wanting to hire them since they could walk to homes. Our neighborhood is big on hiring 'local kids' and supporting kids who have grown up in the neighborhood.

You live in a rich community that is actually paying a fair wage. Most of the people complaining want the neighbor next door to do it for $20

Minimum wage is like $15 an hour. $20 for a term is good money. Mine just finished and probably got the equivalent of $17-18 an hour and he was happy as a clam. He can’t wait until this summer when he will be old enough for a job.

LOL, maybe for 9-5, but you actually need "emergency work". See how much the going rate is for that in your area.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was also an unusually nasty storm with the ice making things heavy. Much harder to shovel.

And a lot of the snow shovels could not handle Monday's snow. We broke 2 of our 5 shovels.