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Anonymous wrote:We got married in our mid 20's, moved to another country for career, had kids, built a life, bought a home, all that without any support network.

And some people are in jail at 20 have a baby in jail and build a life around that.

Why do you think your story is something people want to emulate?

I read your story and I think childhood trauma

We aren't talking about 20 year old prisoners. We are talking about mud 20's educated and employed adults with family support.

No trauma. Just logistics as family was on another continent.

It doesn’t matter what continent of family is on… OP is only available by phone for her son right now and is providing support.

I’m sorry, your family didn’t care enough about you to provide support and yes, that is trauma. Your response shows that you have not done the work.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Enmeshed even worse

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Oh the irony of your bitc6ing about coddling and then calling your adult children “babies.” The jokes write themselves.😂😂😂😂😂

Calling my kids 'babies' isn’t about treating them like they can’t handle life. They’ll always me my babies no matter how old they get. But keep focusing on the small stuff if it helps you avoid the bigger conversation,(that you cannot handle), about why you continue to excuse adult sons from taking responsibility.

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Anonymous wrote:When society keeps telling grown men and women that they are naive kids then why would they act as responsible adults? These are people who are five six years post college, not college freshmen. A sensible couple would've discussed it, explore their options and either quietly had it taken care of if they didn't want it or made an announcement of expecting a baby. In current day and age they don't even have to get married unless there is a religious reason. They don't even have to have a wedding music band, just a trip to city court and a dinner with immediate family and a few friends would suffice.

Let’s say instead of a pregnancy, it’s cancer. Are you saying that a 27-year-old with a cancer diagnosis shouldn’t call and talk to his parents?
What if it was a car accident that really shook him up and he just wants to talk. Are you saying a 27-year-old shouldn’t talk to his parents about a car accident?
What if his girlfriend died? Are you saying a 27-year-old shouldn’t talk to his parents about his girlfriend dying?
I guess the only thing we should talk to our parents about after we are 22 is the weather and what we’re eating at Thanksgiving.

And unexpected pregnancy is not cancer. It's a very big OOPs with lifestyle choices factored in.
I've been in a big car accident at that age. Neither me, nor my eventual dh in that car with me considered calling parents.
And the 27 year old isn't announcing the pregnancy.
He is asking for help and guidance about a very big OOPs.

In this day and age it is not an OOPs.

Luckily women do have choices currently in some states and that is a good thing.

OP is an excellent parent her son is very lucky to have a mom with a brain.

It may not have been an oops for the girlfriend but definitely sounds like it for the son.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Oh the irony of your bitc6ing about coddling and then calling your adult children “babies.” The jokes write themselves.😂😂😂😂😂

Calling my kids 'babies' isn’t about treating them like they can’t handle life. They’ll always me my babies no matter how old they get. But keep focusing on the small stuff if it helps you avoid the bigger conversation,(that you cannot handle), about why you continue to excuse adult sons from taking responsibility.

Who is avoiding responsibility you insufferable moron. He called his mother for advice. He is handling the situation on his own. You even admit that your “babies” are up your ass all day long but have the nerve to tell someone else they shouldn’t talk to their kids. No wonder you have 5 kids. It took you that long to figure out how they’re made.

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I’d probably ask questions. How are you feeling about it? How does she feel about it? What are you both thinking going forward?

Then just listen and tell him they have my full support no matter what.

Definitely would NOT mention a wedding. That’s their decision whether to consider marriage - not anyone else’s.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Oh the irony of your bitc6ing about coddling and then calling your adult children “babies.” The jokes write themselves.😂😂😂😂😂

Calling my kids 'babies' isn’t about treating them like they can’t handle life. They’ll always me my babies no matter how old they get. But keep focusing on the small stuff if it helps you avoid the bigger conversation,(that you cannot handle), about why you continue to excuse adult sons from taking responsibility.

Who is avoiding responsibility you insufferable moron. He called his mother for advice. He is handling the situation on his own. You even admit that your “babies” are up your ass all day long but have the nerve to tell someone else they shouldn’t talk to their kids. No wonder you have 5 kids. It took you that long to figure out how they’re made.

Wow, your pathetic. Which one is it? Am I a crazy, bitter lunatic feminist or a crazy religious conservative? If you could actually read what I’ve said, I never said OP’s son shouldn’t be contacting OP about this. What I said was women need to stop complaining about their husbands being shitty or their sons turning into incels if they’ continue to coddle their sons. And as for my five babies—it’s so sad that makes you feel sad, insecure, jealous, and ruffles your feathers. I know a lot of you people here envy large families, but the reason is because it’s hard for you to understand the kind of special, selfless people it takes to raise five independent, responsible adults, because that could never be you.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Oh the irony of your bitc6ing about coddling and then calling your adult children “babies.” The jokes write themselves.😂😂😂😂😂

Calling my kids 'babies' isn’t about treating them like they can’t handle life. They’ll always me my babies no matter how old they get. But keep focusing on the small stuff if it helps you avoid the bigger conversation,(that you cannot handle), about why you continue to excuse adult sons from taking responsibility.

Who is avoiding responsibility you insufferable moron. He called his mother for advice. He is handling the situation on his own. You even admit that your “babies” are up your ass all day long but have the nerve to tell someone else they shouldn’t talk to their kids. No wonder you have 5 kids. It took you that long to figure out how they’re made.

Wow, your pathetic. Which one is it? Am I a crazy, bitter lunatic feminist or a crazy religious conservative? If you could actually read what I’ve said, I never said OP’s son shouldn’t be contacting OP about this. What I said was women need to stop complaining about their husbands being shitty or their sons turning into incels if they’ continue to coddle their sons. And as for my five babies—it’s so sad that makes you feel sad, insecure, jealous, and ruffles your feathers. I know a lot of you people here envy large families, but the reason is because it’s hard for you to understand the kind of special, selfless people it takes to raise five independent, responsible adults, because that could never be you.

DP. Please just stop. Can you please let it be and give the rest of us a break from your constant noise.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Enmeshed even worse

My kids love spending time with me—calling 24/7, hanging out, traveling—and I love it too. My husband and I raised great kids who love us to death, so why would we push them away?

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Enmeshed even worse

My kids love spending time with me—calling 24/7, hanging out, traveling—and I love it too. My husband and I raised great kids who love us to death, so why would we push them away?

You should educate yourself on a enmeshment. At least do it for your future in-laws.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Enmeshed even worse

My kids love spending time with me—calling 24/7, hanging out, traveling—and I love it too. My husband and I raised great kids who love us to death, so why would we push them away?

You should educate yourself on a enmeshment. At least do it for your future in-laws.

My 25yo daughter is getting married this summer, and our soon-to-be son-in-law is a great fit for our family. My 23yo son also has a wonderful long-term girlfriend. They’re all navigating their relationships beautifully & in mature ways, including my 21yo daughter and 18yo senior son. We have a close, supportive family dynamic, and I’m confident they’re learning to balance family and partners—no enmeshment here, just love.

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Anonymous wrote:Wow, now 27+ are treated as teenagers.

Only on DCUM, and only 27 yo men, not women.

Obviously! Because it’s only the woman’s fault to get pregnant- how dare she

PP. The hypocrisy on this site is crazy. Moms here are raising the man children & incels they complain about. And they say they support women, yeah no.

A son calling his mother to let her know he might be having a child is "raising an incel?" WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU????

That’s okay, but if it the GFs mom posted this, the replies here would be very different.

I agree with that. No one would be bashing the daughter for calling her mother.

Nope they’d be blaming her, calling her slurs, and telling her to figure it out, not coddling & excusing. No one here has expressed an ounce of sympathy for the girlfriend.

Stop making shit up. OP's son got a ton of hate (including from you).

I don’t see the issue with a 27yo son or daughter (or whatever age) telling their mother that they might be having a baby soon, but there is a clear pattern of coddling male adult children on this forum.

Sorry you're so bitter about nothing. Bless your heart.

I know that the truth really hurts.
I have an adult 23yo son of my own, I know what I’m talking about it.

So do I and no you don't.

It’s clear. All I did was call out hypocrisy and very blatant double standards. If moms want things to change, than it starts with their sons, otherwise don’t complain about your DH on here or run here for sympathy when your son is having a hard time finding a women to marry.

Cool story. Feel better now?

Ofc…..better than any enabling & bad mother ever will feel.

Sure, sure....something tells me your children avoid you like the plague. Such a surprise since you're such a lovely person.

You wish. My five lovely and wonderful babies are 25, 23, 21, 18, & 16, and that’s nowhere near the case. They can’t stop blowing up my phone all day and night, and they even take time off work just to spend time with me. Guess not everyone’s as lucky to have such amazing kids.

Enmeshed even worse

My kids love spending time with me—calling 24/7, hanging out, traveling—and I love it too. My husband and I raised great kids who love us to death, so why would we push them away?

You should educate yourself on a enmeshment. At least do it for your future in-laws.

My 25yo daughter is getting married this summer, and our soon-to-be son-in-law is a great fit for our family. My 23yo son also has a wonderful long-term girlfriend. They’re all navigating their relationships beautifully & in mature ways, including my 21yo daughter and 18yo senior son. We have a close, supportive family dynamic, and I’m confident they’re learning to balance family and partners—no enmeshment here, just love.

Let’s talk in 10 years. Hon.

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Anonymous wrote:I’d probably ask questions. How are you feeling about it? How does she feel about it? What are you both thinking going forward?

Then just listen and tell him they have my full support no matter what.

Definitely would NOT mention a wedding. That’s their decision whether to consider marriage - not anyone else’s.

This is how I would respond as well, but I don’t think OP is wrong in any way. It’s wonderful that her son feels loved and accepted enough to seek her advice and support. It’s bonkers to me that anyone is critical of that. Everyone should be so lucky to have family relationships like that.

OP, I wish you, your son, and his GF the best. Whatever the outcome this won’t be an easy time. I’m glad you’re a supportive mom.

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If I like the gf I offer my help and to keep the baby. If I don’t, I say that I can’t help but support whatever decision they make

[Anonymous]

mid 20s is a perfectly normal age to get married and have a kid.