STOP COMING IN SICK

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Anonymous wrote:Ugh. This would drive me NUTS. Especially in a world where you get plenty of paid sick days AND you can telework. There is absolutely no reason at all to be coming in sick in that situation.

Honestly, when she said "I guess I'm breaking the rules, haha!" I would have straight up deadpanned. "Yeah, and it's really rude. I don't want your germs, you should go home."

Cold as ice, no laughing it off. At least make her squirm.

Professional worker's tasks just pile up if they don't work. Sure, they might have lots of leave, but they'll never finish all their work if they take it.

Shift workers often don't have that issue, but they're less likely to have plenty of leave or the ability to telework.

Why have you all turned this thread into something it's not?

It's not about shift workers, it's not about professional workers' with no telework or PTO. It's about professional workers with the option to work from home NOT staying home when sick.

I know you probably think you understand other people's jobs better than they do, but the reality is that you don't. You don't know what things they have to do, or what the impact would be of attempting to do it from home versus the office.

All other things being equal, most people would probably refer to telework if they're not feeling great. But its often more complicated than that, whether you want to admit it or not.

What do you do that’s so important that you cannot take off when sick? Outside of court, nothing. A doctor should take off and not get their patients sick.

If you really believe it is that simple, then I don't even know what to say. But you must frequently be confused by the decisions of others.

DP but yeah, it is kind of confusing how an adult with the option to telework insists on coming in sick.

At my work we have limited telework weeks and we have to use a full week if we choose to use telecommute time. So people do come in a little sick.

If we had unlimited telework and sick time and were encouraged to use it, I would use it much more often.

[Anonymous]

Please God Stop. I just got over a destructive nasal infection, and I'm trying to heal my nose and sinuses.

Today in a meeting, in walks someone with a bright red nose, sniffing and coughing, wiping their face with their hand. I eventually had to get up and leave as I just couldn't risk another infection. And this in a place where you don't even have to come in.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I’m coming in sick unless I literally cannot. Not wasting my limited telework on that. In fairness, I will wear a mask.

Which will do practically nothing. But thanks for your consideration.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please God Stop. I just got over a destructive nasal infection, and I'm trying to heal my nose and sinuses.

Today in a meeting, in walks someone with a bright red nose, sniffing and coughing, wiping their face with their hand. I eventually had to get up and leave as I just couldn't risk another infection. And this in a place where you don't even have to come in.

Put on a mask if you're that worried.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I’m coming in sick unless I literally cannot. Not wasting my limited telework on that. In fairness, I will wear a mask.

Which will do practically nothing. But thanks for your consideration.

Yes, masks help. And if you’re so scared you can also wear a mask which provides even more protection.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I’m coming in sick unless I literally cannot. Not wasting my limited telework on that. In fairness, I will wear a mask.

Which will do practically nothing. But thanks for your consideration.

Yes, masks help. And if you’re so scared you can also wear a mask which provides even more protection.

Of course masks help. I'm fortunate my co-workers are considerate about this, and I'm happy to pop one on as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Please God Stop. I just got over a destructive nasal infection, and I'm trying to heal my nose and sinuses.

Today in a meeting, in walks someone with a bright red nose, sniffing and coughing, wiping their face with their hand. I eventually had to get up and leave as I just couldn't risk another infection. And this in a place where you don't even have to come in.

Put on a mask if you're that worried.

As well all know, masks have only a marginal effect on transmission risk, meaning they reduce but do not even come close to eliminating it. There is no risk of transmission if a carrier stays home. If there is no or low cost to staying home, then the obvious solution is to stay home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I’m coming in sick unless I literally cannot. Not wasting my limited telework on that. In fairness, I will wear a mask.

Which will do practically nothing. But thanks for your consideration.

Yes, masks help. And if you’re so scared you can also wear a mask which provides even more protection.

Of course masks help. I'm fortunate my co-workers are considerate about this, and I'm happy to pop one on as well.

Or you could do what actual considerate people do, which is to stay home. Why do you have to be in the office when you're sick? I'm just curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I’m coming in sick unless I literally cannot. Not wasting my limited telework on that. In fairness, I will wear a mask.

Which will do practically nothing. But thanks for your consideration.

Yes, masks help. And if you’re so scared you can also wear a mask which provides even more protection.

Of course masks help. I'm fortunate my co-workers are considerate about this, and I'm happy to pop one on as well.

Or you could do what actual considerate people do, which is to stay home. Why do you have to be in the office when you're sick? I'm just curious.

I have limited sick leave, most of which is lost to my kids. If I have mild symptoms and no telework option, I just have to do the best I can. I wish the system were different, but I am as considerate as possible.

[Anonymous]

I am all for staying home when sick. It's great when offices are generous with telework, otherwise the it's hard to do it. That said when I get a cold it can drag on for weeks. So the office culture has to be such that it's viewed as ok to telework that much. In a lot of offices it's just not. Don't blame the individual employee. Employers wanted RTO and these policies and expectations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please God Stop. I just got over a destructive nasal infection, and I'm trying to heal my nose and sinuses.

Today in a meeting, in walks someone with a bright red nose, sniffing and coughing, wiping their face with their hand. I eventually had to get up and leave as I just couldn't risk another infection. And this in a place where you don't even have to come in.

Put on a mask if you're that worried.

So you're totally fine with spreading whatever you have to unsuspecting people, even though it could have dire consequences for them or their family members?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Please God Stop. I just got over a destructive nasal infection, and I'm trying to heal my nose and sinuses.

Today in a meeting, in walks someone with a bright red nose, sniffing and coughing, wiping their face with their hand. I eventually had to get up and leave as I just couldn't risk another infection. And this in a place where you don't even have to come in.

Put on a mask if you're that worried.

So you're totally fine with spreading whatever you have to unsuspecting people, even though it could have dire consequences for them or their family members?

Another issue here is masks help significantly at the margin, when you're mingling or passing someone in the hall. But there are other transmission methods, including anything someone touches. Also, when you're sitting in a meeting with a person for an hour, or yapping cubicle to cubicle, masked or unmasked, every minute you're in the room with that spreader your risk of infection is increasing. Masked or unmasked, if you hang around with the infected long enough, you're highly likely to be hit. Hopefully when people come in to work as spreaders, they are isolating themselves as much as possible, and informing their colleagues of the risk.

[Anonymous]

I just want everyone to understand, that I picked up the flu from a coworker three weeks ago, and unknowingly prior to symptoms, spread it to my 80 year old mom. She was hospitalized a couple days in, but thankfully was released after four days. But thank you for making sure your seat was occupied in your office.

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Anonymous wrote:I am all for staying home when sick. It's great when offices are generous with telework, otherwise the it's hard to do it. That said when I get a cold it can drag on for weeks. So the office culture has to be such that it's viewed as ok to telework that much. In a lot of offices it's just not. Don't blame the individual employee. Employers wanted RTO and these policies and expectations.

I completely understand this situation. And I've had to do it myself after a week or more. I just don't like the casual attitude some people display. Oh, just wear a mask. Well, we all know transmission risk is far more complex than just wearing a mask.

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Anonymous wrote:Yeah I’m coming in sick unless I literally cannot. Not wasting my limited telework on that. In fairness, I will wear a mask.

Which will do practically nothing. But thanks for your consideration.

Yes, masks help. And if you’re so scared you can also wear a mask which provides even more protection.

Of course masks help. I'm fortunate my co-workers are considerate about this, and I'm happy to pop one on as well.

Unfortunately the PPP (and others) don’t seem to understand masks do help since they said “Which will do practically nothing.” in response to someone saying they mask.