Record number of high schoolers swapping the Ivy League for the SEC thanks to sunshine, campus culture - The Times

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Anonymous wrote:I also hear people say that there are too many immigrants or children of immigrants at Ivy league schools from alot of parents and kids, i hear it from Black and White families to be honest.

The Ivy league testing is a bad way to judge who gets in, in my opinion it should be 50% weighted and 25% leadership, and 25% Extravehicular,

Let's be honest the immigrants who are 35% of the ivy league are great at taking test, but are horrible at applying those skills as leaders in industry

The leaders of Google, Nvidia, Meta’s Super Intelligence group (who sold his company to Meta for $15BN) and countless other companies would disagree.

Folks…you can’t both claim SEC schools are incredible, but then ignore that the most transformative companies in existence are founded, run and filled with grads of the top schools for the most part.

The SEC frenzy started less than ten years ago. Give it time. By the time you’re in a nursing home things will have changed.

That's always the answer....give it time...you can give it as much time as you want, and I guarantee you things won't change.

No offense, but all the kids i know at SEC schools (my sample size of like 10)...they aren't kids who aspire to found companies or change the world, which is fine. They want to get a nice job and have a nice life, perfectly fine.

Truth. The ivies attract and cultivate the development of future leaders in research, law, medicine, industry, nonprofits etc, regardless of that student's race or background. The pursuit of excellence and the raw ambition is palpable when you talk to students from these schools, and get to know many by having your own kids attend. IVY+ are not for everyone, and the SEC is not for most of the students who have what it takes to get accepted to IVY+.
Different students fit in different places, it is not rocket science.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ivy League is 40% Asian

Ivy League Plus is 30% Asian

Public Ivies are 20% Asian


Sec schools seem to be a safe place for many, seems like conservatives have buyers remorse on Affirmative Action repeal

Huh? Admission should be intelligence/merit based, and if that leads to 40, 50, 60% asian so what. My white unhooked kid is glad to be surrounded by many equally smart asians and other people who do not look the same as they do. They are all friends. The SEC schools would not provide the right intellectual environment to push them because they do not have close to the level of peer intelligence to lead to growth for these kids.

I would say leadership based like west point

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So tired of all this “future leader” and leadership-promotion rhetoric.

Everyday people are suffering because of poor leadership in every area of life—layoffs, affordability issues, drugs, poverty, you name it. Decades of so-called leadership, yet the problems keep getting worse.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ivy League is 40% Asian

Ivy League Plus is 30% Asian

Public Ivies are 20% Asian


Sec schools seem to be a safe place for many, seems like conservatives have buyers remorse on Affirmative Action repeal

Huh? Admission should be intelligence/merit based, and if that leads to 40, 50, 60% asian so what. My white unhooked kid is glad to be surrounded by many equally smart asians and other people who do not look the same as they do. They are all friends. The SEC schools would not provide the right intellectual environment to push them because they do not have close to the level of peer intelligence to lead to growth for these kids.

Let the Asians have the Private and Public Ivy league Plus, and let the Blacks and Whites have the Sec, let's see who wins

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Anonymous wrote:I also hear people say that there are too many immigrants or children of immigrants at Ivy league schools from alot of parents and kids, i hear it from Black and White families to be honest.

The Ivy league testing is a bad way to judge who gets in, in my opinion it should be 50% weighted and 25% leadership, and 25% Extravehicular,

Let's be honest the immigrants who are 35% of the ivy league are great at taking test, but are horrible at applying those skills as leaders in industry

The leaders of Google, Nvidia, Meta’s Super Intelligence group (who sold his company to Meta for $15BN) and countless other companies would disagree.

Folks…you can’t both claim SEC schools are incredible, but then ignore that the most transformative companies in existence are founded, run and filled with grads of the top schools for the most part.

The SEC frenzy started less than ten years ago. Give it time. By the time you’re in a nursing home things will have changed.

That's always the answer....give it time...you can give it as much time as you want, and I guarantee you things won't change.

No offense, but all the kids i know at SEC schools (my sample size of like 10)...they aren't kids who aspire to found companies or change the world, which is fine. They want to get a nice job and have a nice life, perfectly fine.

Truth. The ivies attract and cultivate the development of future leaders in research, law, medicine, industry, nonprofits etc, regardless of that student's race or background. The pursuit of excellence and the raw ambition is palpable when you talk to students from these schools, and get to know many by having your own kids attend. IVY+ are not for everyone, and the SEC is not for most of the students who have what it takes to get accepted to IVY+.
Different students fit in different places, it is not rocket science.

lol. C'mon. That can be said about many colleges. Give me a break.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Nice phony Troll job. Try better next time.

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At least Black people have HBCU, Whites have nothing, Asians could wipe us out, China has really taken over America

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Nice phony Troll job. Try better next time.

DP. That's completely consistent with what I hear from a cousin who teaches at an SEC school.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Thank you for your post in this thread.

Do you teach any sections in the Honors College at your SEC university ? If yes, any difference with respect to students and regarding material covered ?

Is it safe to assume that you do not teach at Vanderbilt or at the University of Georgia ?

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Nice phony Troll job. Try better next time.

DP. That's completely consistent with what I hear from a cousin who teaches at an SEC school.

Sec Schools look like America

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Nice phony Troll job. Try better next time.

DP. That's completely consistent with what I hear from a cousin who teaches at an SEC school.

Which SEC school ? TIA

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Remember that all (or almost all) SEC schools have Honors Colleges and honors courses for honors students. This could make a difference.

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Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Sure, Jan

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Thank you for your post in this thread.

Do you teach any sections in the Honors College at your SEC university ? If yes, any difference with respect to students and regarding material covered ?

Is it safe to assume that you do not teach at Vanderbilt or at the University of Georgia ?

Don’t feed this troll. At least have Jeff check the IP to see if this “professor” is outside the beltway.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The parents who comment about attractiveness of students at warm weather schools may be referring to happiness & fitness due to active outdoor lifestyle found at these schools.

This. Don’t make something a problem that isn’t. SEC kids simply take care of themselves and take pride in their appearance. They’re happy and outgoing, all American kids. Again, something that was once the status quo at “top” colleges before they got taken over by dorks.

Good for you genius. You figured out you don't belong in some top "dork" college. Enjoy the SEC.

Aww looks like you’re triggered. Sorry you wouldn’t fit in with the fun, outgoing, fit kids in the SEC. They’ll be married with rich, beautiful families and amazing careers while you’re still coping.

I teach at an average SEC school and the party/fun-filled/non-academic culture is so strong that half the class don't bother to show up to a 10:30am lecture after the first few weeks. Many faculty members especially newer ones have expressed shock/disappointment at how weak the student body is. When our classes are filled with <22 ACT and <1100 SAT, there is only so much we can do to educate. We need to slow down, cover less (often much less than the same course at schools we did our Ph.D.), give fewer/easier assignments, and make exam questions very similar to previous ones (even then many don't have a prayer because they didn't care to study). That's SEC-level of education for you.

Thank you for your post in this thread.

Do you teach any sections in the Honors College at your SEC university ? If yes, any difference with respect to students and regarding material covered ?

Is it safe to assume that you do not teach at Vanderbilt or at the University of Georgia ?

Those two are not remotely similar.