Sign Petition Asking for Boundaries Now, Programs Later

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Anonymous wrote:I think the real issue is the DCC has masked all the east county neighborhoods zoned to bellow avg schools that when perspective buyers look at the zoned schools young parents think they can pick a better school even though all the choices are meh and the best of what is available is often over capacity. I bet if you looked under the covers here you would find a bunch of sacred home owners using poor kids as their proxies even though they will never use any of the advanced programs or choices in measurable percentages.

The lowest ranked DCC schools would do a little better when more kids stay home and the middle ranked schools like Blair will do much worse when the influx dries up. Its funny the DCC doesn't want to empower the equity bounce internally within its system that they want from the richer schools. I always said be careful what you wish for in redistricting which the East county has cried for years for, Slice up Whitman all you want in any direction you will only get different rich kids, a few blocks can completely change an east county schools makeup and rarely for the better. Truth is the strongest gerrymandering is in the east county when it comes to SFH areas vs Apts.

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Sounds like west county folk trying to silence advocacy from east county folk. 50% of this thread is this foolishness. It's very transparent.

Most rich kids are not advanced. Most poor kids are not advanced. The specific percentages are different, certainly, but all advanced kids should have access to challenging coursework. Still, when talking about criteria based magnet programs which is where a lot of the concerns about the regional program proposal lie, we're not talking about the majority of kids at any school, nor are we talking about programs that are aimed at or likely to improve math or literacy proficiency rates. So in the end this entire discussion is not about addressing MCPS's fundamental problems, but it is about programs that serve kids of all backgrounds,.though certainly a group that is disproportionately wealthy, White and Asian and in which Black and Latino kids and kids with lower incomes are underrepresented.

it's fun that the petition was co-authored by a BCC parent (one of those demonic west county folk trying to silence advocacy by.....writing a petition to advocate).

You're saying because someone from west county doesn't hate the DCC we can't call out those that do? Stfu

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Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Probably the opposite, given resources are provided and divided at the school level.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I teach in a school that currently feeds into the DCC. We do have some high children and they will have access to higher classes as they continue through MCPS. However, the numbers are way (way, way) lower than at other elementary schools, and it is not due to a lack of good teaching. We have amazing and dedicated educators, a fantastic principal, wonderful parents. Really, it's a great place to work. But the majority of the very well-intentioned parents are not educated themselves. It's not a situation of them not knowing English- that's an easy fix. But they were never educated in their home countries. Children are starting at such a disadvantage between lack of language, but also since we know that parents are their first and most important teacher. Parents can't teach what they don't know themselves. So schools fit their population. As 90% of our school is below grade level, then most of our resources are used in that way. Advanced kids will still have acccess to the advanced classes, but not the same peer group which is a very important piece of the puzzle.

Kids in the DCC will have access to the higher classes, but the resources need to be spent on the 90% and not the 10%. If your child is in that 10% and need higher than what is offered, then yes, you will need to be creative. Which means community college. How amazing is it that MCPS students can take dual enrollment classes for FREE so that every student can get the challenge they need.

THANK YOU

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.

Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

It wants to allocate them to things it perceives as higher needs for the school (getting kids to grade level).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.

Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.

Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.

Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.

Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?

Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.

Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.

Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?

Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.

If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?

If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.

Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.

Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?

Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.

If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?

If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.

But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.

Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.

Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?

Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.

If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?

If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.

But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.

No one "needs" ceramics or yoga either, but many schools offer them because enough students are interested in them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Btw the notion that MCPS shouldn't invest in advanced courses in majority Black and Brown schools is racist. Their take is Black and Brown students are dumb based on their race and don't need these courses. The reality is Black and Brown students are underrepresented in these courses for a variety of reasons, some of which are MCPS's own fault. One of those reasons is simply not offering these courses in majority Black and Brown schools.

Nobody has said that. What has been repeated is that if there are only 5-10 kids in one school who qualify for a class, then the county does not have the resources to offer it in house- though those kids can access it through MC. Color of the skin is not a barrier for anyone in MCPS.

It does have the resources. It just doesn't want to allocate them in that way.

Exactly! If there only a few kids with interest or who qualify for a class, MCPS should NOT allocate funds in that way. Funds should be allocated for the biggest bang for the buck. And each school SHOULD determine what that is for their school population.

Educating smart kids has a massive "bang for the buck", especially those from low income communities whose parents can't afford or swing enrichment outside of school.

Transporting half the academically advanced cohort from a low income school to a high income school has a negative bang for the buck because it makes it harder to offer appropriate courses for the kids who are left behind. Their education suffers.

Any research supporting this hypothesis? Whose buck is it?

Any research supporting paying to teach MVC to Whitman students? Why are MY tax dollars paying for this? Humph.

If there is a full class of kids at any school, it makes sense for a math teacher to teach it. If there is not a full class of kids, it does not make sense. So, why don’t you ask the county for how many kids are requesting it at each school and go from there?

If there are not enough kids at Whitman, then absolutely it should be dropped. It doesn’t matter which school it is. It doesn’t matter the color of kid’s skin. All that matters is that it is for a full class of students who need that level of class.

But they don't need it. We know they don't need it because most qualified students in MCPS don't have access to it. Surely there is a better use of resources.

No one "needs" ceramics or yoga either, but many schools offer them because enough students are interested in them.

If a school doesn't offer ceramics, how will.the school know when enough students are interested in it to offer it?