Sign Petition Asking for Boundaries Now, Programs Later

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

And you are still here rambling and bullying offering nothing of substance. Different people but why should some kids have access and others not? If it’s unnecessary drop it at all schools.

[Anonymous]

Rambling into the wind.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Fair enough, I guess Whitman kids don't necessarily get an admissions advantage but will be vastly better prepared. Good for them. But let's not pretend that the DCC is this uniquely privileged area when schools like Whitman have massive numbers of advanced math, science and social studies courses that other schools don't have. Taking away the DCC and putting magnets at Whitman and BCC (for Region 1) is absurd and to call that "equity" is beyond offensive.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

No, you are still expected to take them and you don’t get into those majors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Was just going to say that! I have a normal good student at Whitman (mix of honors and AP classes, pre-calc as a junior) and I wish they didn't offer so many advanced courses because it'll look bad for him that he didn't take the most rigorous classes offered.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Fair enough, I guess Whitman kids don't necessarily get an admissions advantage but will be vastly better prepared. Good for them. But let's not pretend that the DCC is this uniquely privileged area when schools like Whitman have massive numbers of advanced math, science and social studies courses that other schools don't have. Taking away the DCC and putting magnets at Whitman and BCC (for Region 1) is absurd and to call that "equity" is beyond offensive.

Whitman has all those classes because they don't need to have very many remedial classes, they have to fill their kid's time so they tailor their offerings to a bunch of high functioning kids. But the counter point is to that is people have always said the remedial kids don't get much attention in the "pressure cooker". If you live in an area that has a specific density of remedial kids and the school is tailored around a lower common denominator, it goes to reason that they may neglect the few advanced kids. It isn't fairness it mechanical but you picked your environment at what point in life is stuff your fault.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Fair enough, I guess Whitman kids don't necessarily get an admissions advantage but will be vastly better prepared. Good for them. But let's not pretend that the DCC is this uniquely privileged area when schools like Whitman have massive numbers of advanced math, science and social studies courses that other schools don't have. Taking away the DCC and putting magnets at Whitman and BCC (for Region 1) is absurd and to call that "equity" is beyond offensive.

100% agree and THAT'S what the petition should focus on, rather than complain that the boundaries for B-CC and Whitman don't change. The regional model and what programs would go where is the real problem, not whether kids zoned for these school who aren't interested in any special programs continue to be assigned to those schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Fair enough, I guess Whitman kids don't necessarily get an admissions advantage but will be vastly better prepared. Good for them. But let's not pretend that the DCC is this uniquely privileged area when schools like Whitman have massive numbers of advanced math, science and social studies courses that other schools don't have. Taking away the DCC and putting magnets at Whitman and BCC (for Region 1) is absurd and to call that "equity" is beyond offensive.

Whitman has all those classes because they don't need to have very many remedial classes, they have to fill their kid's time so they tailor their offerings to a bunch of high functioning kids. But the counter point is to that is people have always said the remedial kids don't get much attention in the "pressure cooker". If you live in an area that has a specific density of remedial kids and the school is tailored around a lower common denominator, it goes to reason that they may neglect the few advanced kids. It isn't fairness it mechanical but you picked your environment at what point in life is stuff your fault.

Frankly, I don't think my kid will need AP Physics or MVC so I'm not sure who you are talking to. I actually went to Whitman and they absolutely need remedial classes given 1 in 5 kids are not even proficient in math. The vast majority are not taking AP Physics or MVC. However, since Whitman already has those advanced classes, they do not need to bus in a bunch of academically advanced kids from other schools for "fairness" or whatever BS excuse MCPS has.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Fair enough, I guess Whitman kids don't necessarily get an admissions advantage but will be vastly better prepared. Good for them. But let's not pretend that the DCC is this uniquely privileged area when schools like Whitman have massive numbers of advanced math, science and social studies courses that other schools don't have. Taking away the DCC and putting magnets at Whitman and BCC (for Region 1) is absurd and to call that "equity" is beyond offensive.

They’re not putting anything new at BCC (IB is already there) and you’re getting a new magnet at your school, actually you will have multiple magnets in different areas (medical AND visual arts) plus you will retain IB just for zoned students at Einstein. And your overcrowding will be relieved. And you can access ANY of the magnets at the schools in your region, some of which are much better than Einstein and offer 3 physics classes and MVC. But you are unsatisfied.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Fair enough, I guess Whitman kids don't necessarily get an admissions advantage but will be vastly better prepared. Good for them. But let's not pretend that the DCC is this uniquely privileged area when schools like Whitman have massive numbers of advanced math, science and social studies courses that other schools don't have. Taking away the DCC and putting magnets at Whitman and BCC (for Region 1) is absurd and to call that "equity" is beyond offensive.

They’re not putting anything new at BCC (IB is already there) and you’re getting a new magnet at your school, actually you will have multiple magnets in different areas (medical AND visual arts) plus you will retain IB just for zoned students at Einstein. And your overcrowding will be relieved. And you can access ANY of the magnets at the schools in your region, some of which are much better than Einstein and offer 3 physics classes and MVC. But you are unsatisfied.

Oh and you are in the region with Blair and can also access SMCS with reduced competition. It’s hard to understand what more you could possibly want other than Einstein offering bespoke classes for their 1 percenters.

[Anonymous]

It's as much and more about the different educational experiences we, as a county, are publicly providing in high school than about publicly providing differential college application profiles.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

Fair enough, I guess Whitman kids don't necessarily get an admissions advantage but will be vastly better prepared. Good for them. But let's not pretend that the DCC is this uniquely privileged area when schools like Whitman have massive numbers of advanced math, science and social studies courses that other schools don't have. Taking away the DCC and putting magnets at Whitman and BCC (for Region 1) is absurd and to call that "equity" is beyond offensive.

They’re not putting anything new at BCC (IB is already there) and you’re getting a new magnet at your school, actually you will have multiple magnets in different areas (medical AND visual arts) plus you will retain IB just for zoned students at Einstein. And your overcrowding will be relieved. And you can access ANY of the magnets at the schools in your region, some of which are much better than Einstein and offer 3 physics classes and MVC. But you are unsatisfied.

1. New magnet at Einstein - sure great, after Einstein complained they gave us Biomedical, but that is only meaningful if they actually provide resources for it, but they've told us they basically wont do that
2. The VAC already exists but is being downgraded
3. Knowing the size of the current IB program at Einstein it seems highly unlikely it will survive for various reasons (lower enrollment, no DCC choice, kids going to BCC)
4. Many Einstein kids will not be able to swing the commute to other high schools, especially Whitman, so to say Einstein kids "can access" those classes there is pretty disingenuous. Those that do will be disproportionately White and Wealthy. Whitman does not need more White and Wealthy kids.

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[Anonymous]

Btw the BCC IB program will be bigger. It will attract 200 high performing kids from other schools, which will give them additional teacher allocations (no this won't be counterbalanced by BCC kids going to other schools, big shock BCC kids don't typically go to other schools because they have what they need where they are), and it will become a 4 year program instead of a 2 year program

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:MVC lady has moved on the linear algebra. The point is the same.

I'm not the MVC lady.

Whitman has 3 different AP physics classes while many schools have none. That is just one example.

That seems a little unnecessary?

Apparently these are good classes to do if you want to get into a good engineering program. Too bad if your school offers none of them.

Ok but colleges know if your school doesn’t have these classes and wouldn’t expect you to have taken them.

No, you are still expected to take them and you don’t get into those majors.

I don't know about "expected to take them," but those posting that a kid from Einstein accessing the highest level classes available there being evaluated by top-25 institutions the same as a similarly profiled (in all other respects) kid from Whitman, in the same school system, accessing the highest level classes available there is blowing smoke. Anyone having worked in or near a college admissions office at these institutions could tell you that when it comes down to brass tacks, with all other things being equal, they take the one having accessed the higher classes.