Birthright Citizenship

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

Because we don’t need nor want 2.5 million additional uneducated, illiterate, unskilled cash pay illegal economic migrants a year nor their 4.38 anchor babies per female.

This.

That was your ancestors 120 years ago and here you are!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Riddle us this:
Why WOULD a developed country want Citizenship by Birth in this day and age?

Why not? I would argue that NOT allowing citizenship by birth indicates a country that sees itself as having an ethnic identity that cannot be acquired unless one is descended from that ethnicity.

Or fill out the immigration application paperwork like millions do.

Or are you talking about Japan or China where there are extremely low fixed numbers of cultural visas, student visas, work visas, etc.?

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m just glad that I was a green card holder when my oldest was born and a citizen when the youngest was born. And that their father is American by birth as well.

Yes being a legal immigration visa holder, on the books, is a requirement to live indefinitely in most well-functioning countries.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

Because we don’t need nor want 2.5 million additional uneducated, illiterate, unskilled cash pay illegal economic migrants a year nor their 4.38 anchor babies per female.

This. If we really want (or need) a lot of citizens from other countries then we should officially say that and open up a big application system to find smart, healthy, educated, talented and law abiding people from other countries who share our values, have the ability to support themselves and are willing to follow our rules.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

Because we don’t need nor want 2.5 million additional uneducated, illiterate, unskilled cash pay illegal economic migrants a year nor their 4.38 anchor babies per female.

Rich Democrats need invaders for their cheap labor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

Because we don’t need nor want 2.5 million additional uneducated, illiterate, unskilled cash pay illegal economic migrants a year nor their 4.38 anchor babies per female.

This.

That was your ancestors 120 years ago and here you are!

Nope they were legal immigrants literate in their own language, educated and skilled.

No ESOL or welfare available for their children.

Plus extensive welfare, tax, and social and public good systems in American did not yet exist. Neither did all 50 states.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

Because we don’t need nor want 2.5 million additional uneducated, illiterate, unskilled cash pay illegal economic migrants a year nor their 4.38 anchor babies per female.

This.

That was your ancestors 120 years ago and here you are!

Nope they were legal immigrants literate in their own language, educated and skilled.

No ESOL or welfare available for their children.

Plus extensive welfare, tax, and social and public good systems in American did not yet exist. Neither did all 50 states.

You mean they were white Europeans, just go ahead and say it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My neighbors who are both citizens (but naturalized originally from other countries) had their brother and pregnant wife visit.

They came in early January. I only saw the wife once walking and when I met the brother I said hello introduced myself and asked how long they were staying. He said they were leaving in a couple weeks.

Saw neighbors again a few weeks later and brother was still there. Neighbor told me how the wife was pregnant but they were keeping it secret because of Trump. Brother and wife were not US citizens and from India. I honestly couldn’t believe what I was hearing.

They had a baby in late spring and baby has US citizenship and Indian citizenship. They left a couple weeks after baby was born.

This to me is totally wrong. They lied and so did my neighbors (who are wealthy and have graduate degrees including PhDs).

I am not pro Trump but I was alarmed by the way this was handled by all of them.

My sibling lived in another country (years ago) and knew of countless people who came to the US so their baby could also be a US citizen. They knew to come not right when close to due date either. I thought my sibling was exaggerating until I saw what happened with my neighbors.

Something needs to change.

There is a process outlined in the constitution for changing the constitution.

Good luck repealing part of the 14th amendment.

So cool! Guess we’re stuck with millions of annual illegal immigrants, anchor babies, and birth tourism forever.

Come one, come all!

I didn’t write 14A, so spare me the attitude.

If you don’t like an amendment, then work to amend the Constitution. Like I said, we have a process for changing the Constitution.

Golly jee. Guess our schools, hospitals, roads and cheap labor parking lots will just always be filled to the brim with illegals forever.
Everyone legal just throw your hands up and keep paying in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

Because we don’t need nor want 2.5 million additional uneducated, illiterate, unskilled cash pay illegal economic migrants a year nor their 4.38 anchor babies per female.

This.

That was your ancestors 120 years ago and here you are!

Nope they were legal immigrants literate in their own language, educated and skilled.

No ESOL or welfare available for their children.

Plus extensive welfare, tax, and social and public good systems in American did not yet exist. Neither did all 50 states.

+1 every wave of legal immigration was increasingly so.
Every decade America has more sophistication, economics growth, and public systems.

Meanwhile constant illegal immigration is the opposite. Central America doesn’t even require schooling beyond 6 years, and most families don’t even do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Riddle us this:
Why WOULD a developed country want Citizenship by Birth in this day and age?

Why not? I would argue that NOT allowing citizenship by birth indicates a country that sees itself as having an ethnic identity that cannot be acquired unless one is descended from that ethnicity.

Or fill out the immigration application paperwork like millions do.

Or are you talking about Japan or China where there are extremely low fixed numbers of cultural visas, student visas, work visas, etc.?

Exactly.

DP are you filling out your application? Ending birth right citizenship means there are not citizens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

[i]Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

I agree and this is why republicans can't say they are pro life-they are NOT! MAGA is the party of white christian nationalists... read project 2025. They want white women having more babies which is why they are working hard to take away women's choices/rights to healthcare-they want women out of the work place and in the home raising white christian babies. They are just getting started....think Germany for those of you who are educated and actually paid attention is school and you know read books (read more before they are banned).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

[i]Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

I agree and this is why republicans can't say they are pro life-they are NOT! MAGA is the party of white christian nationalists... read project 2025. They want white women having more babies which is why they are working hard to take away women's choices/rights to healthcare-they want women out of the work place and in the home raising white christian babies. They are just getting started....think Germany for those of you who are educated and actually paid attention is school and you know read books (read more before they are banned).

Because the illegal aliens from the last few years are a net negative on this country. They are takers. Illiterate. Uneducated. The women don't work - just have babies that we have to pay for and who will not grow up to contribute. Our schools are overwhelmed and deteriorating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

[i]Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

I agree and this is why republicans can't say they are pro life-they are NOT! MAGA is the party of white christian nationalists... read project 2025. They want white women having more babies which is why they are working hard to take away women's choices/rights to healthcare-they want women out of the work place and in the home raising white christian babies. They are just getting started....think Germany for those of you who are educated and actually paid attention is school and you know read books (read more before they are banned).

DP. I lived in Japan for years. I would rather have a stagnant economy and peaceful living than the chaos taking place in the U.S., Britain and European countries that have had crazy migration inflows. Growth is overrated. In spite of the challenges Japan is facing, the vast majority of Japanese are not clamoring for more immigration.

“But we need growth!” Is especially rich coming from the same people who also belong to the climate change religion.
No, we don’t. We need to consume less and have simpler lives closer to our homes and families. Not dual big job incomes with cars and commutes and outsourcing everything and conspicuous consumption.

“But social security!”
No, not this either. Stop the growth dependent Ponzi scheme. No one has the right to a leisurely and luxurious retirement starting at 62. Not saying to do away with it altogether but by all means, nudge the slider over and make it sustainable without relying on population growth.

“But my 401k!”
Nope. Not this either. We need to fix our system so that we don’t have to put our money in stocks (and maximizing shareholder gains at the expense of everyday workers) in order to have security later in life.

We don’t need growth at all. For the benefit of families, we do need stability and for more leverage to be shifted back over to everyday workers for better pay and working conditions. We cannot do that by importing millions of illiterate people willing to do harder and harder work for less and less.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why do folks not want more citizens? Our birthrate is declining. Immigration can save us from the grey spiral. Do folks not look around? Look at Europe and Japan (even China now). Their declining broth rates are going to destroy their economies. We have (had) hope with immigration.

Because they used to be white but now they're brown.

Because we don’t need nor want 2.5 million additional uneducated, illiterate, unskilled cash pay illegal economic migrants a year nor their 4.38 anchor babies per female.

Rich Democrats need invaders for their cheap labor.

So rich Republicans don’t employ illegals immigrants? I don’t think anyone believes that; you must be a troll.

[Anonymous]

Aren’t we all birthright citizens with the American Indian being the only true citizens?