Tufts student detained by ICE

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:At this point ANY student here on a student visa should immediately leave the country.

There is no rule of law here for them any longer. (or for any of us). There is no due process for them and no recourse.

We cannot keep them safe.

Sadly, if I was in their shoes or my child was, I would have to agree. These individuals are not even afforded an opportunity to leave voluntarily.

The remaining agitators are, however, being sent a message. Conduct yourself like a guest in our country, or leave now voluntarily, or wait until you're evicted in consequence of your activity. Seems like fair warning at this point.

Your attitude is frightening. What you're advocating is what exchange students to China are told to do. We are better than that.

Nope. Most of us know how to conduct ourselves and don't have to worry. I've never disrupted campus life or classes in my life. Stay in your own country if you don't like how our universities operate.

Sounds like you'd be a perfect fit for some cosmopolitican Moscow living.

Not at all. I love the USA and all the freedoms we have. I worked hard in college and had a part-time job. I was appreciative for the opportunity to get a college degree from an excellent university.

Non native speaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have spent most of my life abroad.

Middle East, South America mostly.

Good bit in Europe and Australia.

Really, while shocking to people who do not travel; even in Australia visa holders do not get away with what US Visa holders have.

Social media is monitored; forget about campus take overs pretty much anywhere in the world on a visa.

Sorry, just a reality check and kind of how the world works.
Except US universities.

Exactly what part of the fact that these abductions are being orchestrated in blatant, pathetic servitude to a foreign state and its grotesquely un-American interests escapes you?

Tufts is a private institution. Nobody has flagged this individual for doing anything within a country mile of what you described as “campus takeovers”. Therefore, who do YOU think set DHS and our corrupt-as-corrupt-gets friends at State on this particular individual?

[Anonymous]

Guys, stop replying to Svetlana. She's a distraction.

[Anonymous]

How would you feel if student visa holders came here and aligned with the KKK and wrote op-eds supporting racist ideology? But it’s ok to come to the US and promote anti-Jewish protests?

No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How would you feel if student visa holders came here and aligned with the KKK and wrote op-eds supporting racist ideology? But it’s ok to come to the US and promote anti-Jewish protests?

No.

The free market handles that without your doxxing, reputation smearing and insatiable thirst for vengeance.

Also, you don’t speak for Jewish people. The best Jewish Americans reject this fascism. The ones who don’t and anyone else outside the U.S., whether Jewish or not? Well, who cares what they think?

[Anonymous]

We need to find a way to coordinate so those at risk for this can sound the alarm (literally) in real time. There were other people on the street.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How would you feel if student visa holders came here and aligned with the KKK and wrote op-eds supporting racist ideology? But it’s ok to come to the US and promote anti-Jewish protests?

No.

Are you Russian?

Americans understand the concept of defending freedom of speech, even when that speech is abhorant.

It is a cornerstone of our democracy, actually. We learn about this important civil liberty as children, in our elementary schools, where we pledge allegiance to our flag, and to, not just our Republic, for which it stands, but implicitly, to our CONSTITUTION, and the BILL OF RIGHTS.

How we "feel" about the speech being protected is irrelevant. Our country is not run based on our feelings, but on the Constitution, the Bill of Rights, and the rule of law.

So yeah, if a foreign student came to the US on a student visa to study at a university, and then started opining hateful, racist things? I do NOT think the US government should deport them. Not for expressing an opinion.

Would their university decide to revoke enrollment? That would be up to the institution, which could have rules of conduct or rules to qualify for scholarships, fellowships, etc.

But the state should not censor people for expressing their opinion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We need to find a way to coordinate so those at risk for this can sound the alarm (literally) in real time. There were other people on the street.

People on the street can't do very much. These kidnappings are more or less legal. I mean, a court may eventually rules they are not Constitutional, but it's not like average people on the street can just intervene against armed ICE agents walking on the streets?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Guys, stop replying to Svetlana. She's a distraction.

Maybe we can educate her? I wonder if the Russian trolls truly understand American democracy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to find a way to coordinate so those at risk for this can sound the alarm (literally) in real time. There were other people on the street.

People on the street can't do very much. These kidnappings are more or less legal. I mean, a court may eventually rules they are not Constitutional, but it's not like average people on the street can just intervene against armed ICE agents walking on the streets?

I'm not sure on their legality, and as someone who lived a mile from where George Floyd was killed, I will say that the more people who see this crap in real time and even react on the sidelines, the harder it gets for it to continue.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guys, stop replying to Svetlana. She's a distraction.

Maybe we can educate her? I wonder if the Russian trolls truly understand American democracy?

She's not here in good faith. I appreciate your sentiment, but these people aren't coming from a place of curiosity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They'll have the hearings they're entitled to before immigration judges and then will be thrown out. I won't miss them, and don't consider their deportation or the future absence of their revolting advocacy to represent any loss to this country whatsoever. If they want to come here and study, fine. if they want to come here to agitate on behalf of non-American interests, don't let the door hit you on the back on your way out.

+1 !!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We need to find a way to coordinate so those at risk for this can sound the alarm (literally) in real time. There were other people on the street.

People on the street can't do very much. These kidnappings are more or less legal. I mean, a court may eventually rules they are not Constitutional, but it's not like average people on the street can just intervene against armed ICE agents walking on the streets?

Luckily there was a guy who observed the abduction and videotaped it with his phone. We wouldn’t know how this went down if not for him. Imagine if the George Floyd incident hadn’t been caught on tape. The best thing to do is get video if you observe these incidents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At this point ANY student here on a student visa should immediately leave the country.

There is no rule of law here for them any longer. (or for any of us). There is no due process for them and no recourse.

We cannot keep them safe.

Sadly, if I was in their shoes or my child was, I would have to agree. These individuals are not even afforded an opportunity to leave voluntarily.

The remaining agitators are, however, being sent a message. Conduct yourself like a guest in our country, or leave now voluntarily, or wait until you're evicted in consequence of your activity. Seems like fair warning at this point.

Your attitude is frightening. What you're advocating is what exchange students to China are told to do. We are better than that.

Nope. Most of us know how to conduct ourselves and don't have to worry. I've never disrupted campus life or classes in my life. Stay in your own country if you don't like how our universities operate.

Sounds like you'd be a perfect fit for some cosmopolitican Moscow living.

Not at all. I love the USA and all the freedoms we have. I worked hard in college and had a part-time job. I was appreciative for the opportunity to get a college degree from an excellent university.

No, you don’t love the USA.

Which sh#thole country gave you and your parents PTSD? There’s a huge chunk of 1st gen folks from former USSR and other countries who are just itching to bring facism to the U.S. because they are so damaged by their motherland.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:At this point ANY student here on a student visa should immediately leave the country.

There is no rule of law here for them any longer. (or for any of us). There is no due process for them and no recourse.

We cannot keep them safe.

Sadly, if I was in their shoes or my child was, I would have to agree. These individuals are not even afforded an opportunity to leave voluntarily.

The remaining agitators are, however, being sent a message. Conduct yourself like a guest in our country, or leave now voluntarily, or wait until you're evicted in consequence of your activity. Seems like fair warning at this point.

Your attitude is frightening. What you're advocating is what exchange students to China are told to do. We are better than that.

Nope. Most of us know how to conduct ourselves and don't have to worry. I've never disrupted campus life or classes in my life. Stay in your own country if you don't like how our universities operate.

She wrote an article you dum dum.