American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage (Wall Street Journal)

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Anonymous wrote:Women don’t need men to survive like they did in the past. We have our own money, our own homes, and our own children. Who needs a man anymore?

you do realize that many of these children you’re talking about will grow up to be men one day? Way to lay the groundwork for them having zero self-esteem and hating women right back.

Women don’t hate men, we just want to be treated as human beings. The bar for men is on the ground and many still trip over it.

I think for both genders, when they say “the bar is on the floor” , they mean “the bar is on the floor for those I already find attractive”

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My wife and I have had an interesting situation. When we met in our 30s, she owned a biz and made 3x as much money as I was attending grad school. We had a child right away bc her biological clock was ticking loud. Years later her biz folded and I have been the primary breadwinner. Wife and I have had our ups and downs over the years but stuck it out. Now our son is graduating from college with a technical degree from a prestigious university where he attended on a full scholarship (academic and athletic). He irexieced numerous athletic awards during this final year of college and has an Engineering job lined up right after he graduates. He is smart, 6’8 and 225 lbs, treats people the way they want to be treated, sensitive and strong. My wife and I would’ve missed out on this terrific journey if we had decided to go it alone. And no, raising a child by yourself doesn’t work well … I know that from personal experiwnce

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This^. If you want a sugar daddy, marry someone older. If you want someone your age, you two have to work together to build a good life.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife and I have had an interesting situation. When we met in our 30s, she owned a biz and made 3x as much money as I was attending grad school. We had a child right away bc her biological clock was ticking loud. Years later her biz folded and I have been the primary breadwinner. Wife and I have had our ups and downs over the years but stuck it out. Now our son is graduating from college with a technical degree from a prestigious university where he attended on a full scholarship (academic and athletic). He irexieced numerous athletic awards during this final year of college and has an Engineering job lined up right after he graduates. He is smart, 6’8 and 225 lbs, treats people the way they want to be treated, sensitive and strong. My wife and I would’ve missed out on this terrific journey if we had decided to go it alone. And no, raising a child by yourself doesn’t work well … I know that from personal experiwnce

It's easy to get stuck in the trees on the journey. My marriage has its ups and downs, and there are many days when I think it'd be easy to do it alone, but then I spend time with our child and find my center. I wouldn't change a thing about our child.

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Anonymous wrote:Marriage, by definition, is a bad deal for an educated, independent women. I'm in my 40s and happily married, but if I were to be single again, I wouldn't date simply because 99.9% of the men are inferior to me. I have a girl in my team who is in her late 20s, beautiful, educated, makes in the mid 200k, and owns her own place. She tells me that most of the guys her age are broke and fat.

Marriage is very hard to work within the context of two high-achieving partners. Much better for there to be some sort of release valve built into the relationship. The release valve could be as simple as both partners working chill, 40-hour jobs or pen staying home.

Then throw in the “cross cutting” issue. The men that the woman on your team would find attractive may not find her attractive (or, more accurately, those men she finds attractive may find they want her to SAHM later in the relationship which will be high destabilizing).

Men absolutely need to be better, but female standards could also be revisited. If everyone is chasing 6 foot tall surgeons that look like movie stars and are 50/50 equal Partners at home, well, the math just doesn’t work.

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Anonymous wrote:Women are not buying into a system that hates them and sets them up to fail.

This.

The young women under 35 in my family and social circle are just doing other things that bring them joy and peace. They’re getting plenty of support for it from their parents, too. No one wants to see their daughter unhappy or unsafe.

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Anonymous wrote:Marriage, by definition, is a bad deal for an educated, independent women. I'm in my 40s and happily married, but if I were to be single again, I wouldn't date simply because 99.9% of the men are inferior to me. I have a girl in my team who is in her late 20s, beautiful, educated, makes in the mid 200k, and owns her own place. She tells me that most of the guys her age are broke and fat.

In your 20s it’s not wealth that’s important but trajectory. I met my husband at 21. We were both broke but I could see he was going places.

This is the way. You have to bank on potential. If you wait until it’s realized it’s too late.

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Marriage for a highly paid woman is like signing up for a servitude contract without any guarantees of payback. She enters it while still young and desirable for her fertility. When she's over 40, husband can just dump her and divide everything. Men are only valuing women for their looks, fertility and sexuality. Why enter a union where you are only needed for the qualities that last just as much, only to get disposed with HUGE collateral damage to you and your children in 10-20 years?

Marriage is only attractive to women without a good earning capacity.

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Anonymous wrote:“Young men without a degree are struggling so much as a group that there simply aren’t enough with steady jobs and earnings for non-college women to date,” said Goldman.

This^. There is a shortage of single, young, educated, employed and decent men. Ones who are available, they've plenty of educated, employed and decent women to choose from.

Yes, life is good for those of us in that cohort. Fun times and easy sex. There is no way I would sleep with any of the women in the WSJ article, let alone marry them. Too many better options.

I don’t have many options and I also wouldn’t date any of the wsj article women

Wsj just did a poor job picking profiles

Overweight. Mediocre careers. Kids from previous relationships with obvious bums.

Form a single file line, fellas. I’m sure the interest is overwhelming.

I thought the whole point was that these women weren't interested. Your lack of interest in them is secondary to their lack of interest in you.

Gotta love how fast one of these incels clapped back with some version of "Yeah, well, I wouldn't anyway because you're FAT!" Brother, you never stood a chance.

I recognize that incel no longer has any meaning beyond “man I don’t like” but I’m in a happy relationship with a woman those in the article couldn’t hold a candle to. It’s easy to see why they’re single.

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That article was lame. Or was it a Vlog interview turned into a transcript? Lame.

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Millennial and generation X women were brainwashed by mass media and corporate propaganda into birth control, aborting their would-be first born child, hookup culture, and racking up student debt on dubious master's degrees. This is the fruits of that propaganda coming home to roost: Childless and unmarried girl bosses.

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Anonymous wrote:Millennial and generation X women were brainwashed by mass media and corporate propaganda into birth control, aborting their would-be first born child, hookup culture, and racking up student debt on dubious master's degrees. This is the fruits of that propaganda coming home to roost: Childless and unmarried girl bosses.

yes, instead, we should listen to misogynistic men who want us barefoot and pregnant, so that they don't have to compete with women in the workplace

Not happening, loser.

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Anonymous wrote:Marriage, by definition, is a bad deal for an educated, independent women. I'm in my 40s and happily married, but if I were to be single again, I wouldn't date simply because 99.9% of the men are inferior to me. I have a girl in my team who is in her late 20s, beautiful, educated, makes in the mid 200k, and owns her own place. She tells me that most of the guys her age are broke and fat.

In your 20s it’s not wealth that’s important but trajectory. I met my husband at 21. We were both broke but I could see he was going places.

This is the way. You have to bank on potential. If you wait until it’s realized it’s too late.

Propaganda has been telling women and teen girls since the 80s to date around, to be promiscuous, to be a fun party girl. College isn't to look for a husband, it's to have fun. Waste your 20s traveling, boozing, and shopping. Only backwards Bible thumpers look at high school and college as a place to date to marry and seek a life partner.

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Anonymous wrote:Marriage, by definition, is a bad deal for an educated, independent women. I'm in my 40s and happily married, but if I were to be single again, I wouldn't date simply because 99.9% of the men are inferior to me. I have a girl in my team who is in her late 20s, beautiful, educated, makes in the mid 200k, and owns her own place. She tells me that most of the guys her age are broke and fat.

In your 20s it’s not wealth that’s important but trajectory. I met my husband at 21. We were both broke but I could see he was going places.

This is the way. You have to bank on potential. If you wait until it’s realized it’s too late.

Many women don't want to support or struggle, they want instant lifestyle.

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Anonymous wrote:Millennial and generation X women were brainwashed by mass media and corporate propaganda into birth control, aborting their would-be first born child, hookup culture, and racking up student debt on dubious master's degrees. This is the fruits of that propaganda coming home to roost: Childless and unmarried girl bosses.

Millennial and generation X men were brainwashed too. Here's a millennial man in his early 30s whining that he feels old and that every single woman his age has baggage and kids. Breaking news, bud: You are old. Prior generations were all married with kids by their 30s. Millennial men like this drifted their 20s away being immature man children handcuffed to jobs, sports, video games, porn, weed and craft beer. While their female peers wasted their fertility away or had out of wedlock babies.

33 male: Dating in my 30s feels like navigating a sea of single moms—anyone else?
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskMenAdvice/comments/1jk6gf3/dating_in_my_30s_feels_like_navigating_a_sea_of/