American Women Are Giving Up on Marriage (Wall Street Journal)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:“Young men without a degree are struggling so much as a group that there simply aren’t enough with steady jobs and earnings for non-college women to date,” said Goldman.

This^. There is a shortage of single, young, educated, employed and decent men. Ones who are available, they've plenty of educated, employed and decent women to choose from.

Yes, life is good for those of us in that cohort. Fun times and easy sex. There is no way I would sleep with any of the women in the WSJ article, let alone marry them. Too many better options.

I don’t have many options and I also wouldn’t date any of the wsj article women

Wsj just did a poor job picking profiles

Overweight. Mediocre careers. Kids from previous relationships with obvious bums.

Form a single file line, fellas. I’m sure the interest is overwhelming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Young men without a degree are struggling so much as a group that there simply aren’t enough with steady jobs and earnings for non-college women to date,” said Goldman.

This^. There is a shortage of single, young, educated, employed and decent men. Ones who are available, they've plenty of educated, employed and decent women to choose from.

Yes, life is good for those of us in that cohort. Fun times and easy sex. There is no way I would sleep with any of the women in the WSJ article, let alone marry them. Too many better options.

I don’t have many options and I also wouldn’t date any of the wsj article women

Wsj just did a poor job picking profiles

Overweight. Mediocre careers. Kids from previous relationships with obvious bums.

Form a single file line, fellas. I’m sure the interest is overwhelming.

I thought the whole point was that these women weren't interested. Your lack of interest in them is secondary to their lack of interest in you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women are about to be obsolete with AI-powered sex-bots on the horizon.

And so are men. The AI-powered bots will not have micropenis and ED, they will follow the chore list, they will do 100% of the household chores, childcare, eldercare, lawn care, home remodelling, home security and also have full head of hair and washboard abs and give the best orals. Besides, women don't need men to make the money anymore. The best part will be that women will not have to groom to look pretty (just like men) and their 25-yr old bot will still be their devoted sex slave.

This turns dark pretty fast! I recommend the book Annie Bot

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Young men without a degree are struggling so much as a group that there simply aren’t enough with steady jobs and earnings for non-college women to date,” said Goldman.

This^. There is a shortage of single, young, educated, employed and decent men. Ones who are available, they've plenty of educated, employed and decent women to choose from.

Yes, life is good for those of us in that cohort. Fun times and easy sex. There is no way I would sleep with any of the women in the WSJ article, let alone marry them. Too many better options.

I don’t have many options and I also wouldn’t date any of the wsj article women

Wsj just did a poor job picking profiles

Overweight. Mediocre careers. Kids from previous relationships with obvious bums.

Form a single file line, fellas. I’m sure the interest is overwhelming.

I thought the whole point was that these women weren't interested. Your lack of interest in them is secondary to their lack of interest in you.

Gotta love how fast one of these incels clapped back with some version of "Yeah, well, I wouldn't anyway because you're FAT!" Brother, you never stood a chance.

[Anonymous]

Americans are bad at relationships, because most Americans don’t have a lot of empathy. In countries with higher rates of marriage and life satisfaction, empathy helps people find solutions not devolve into fighting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Americans are bad at relationships, because most Americans don’t have a lot of empathy. In countries with higher rates of marriage and life satisfaction, empathy helps people find solutions not devolve into fighting.

Someone already pointed out that we are seeing decreased rates of marriage across Europe and Asia etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This article is telling a very specific story. If you wait until you are thirty to start getting serious about finding love your odds are really low. Meeting young and marrying young is so much more natural. I'm talking early to mid 20s vs. late 20s-30s. Those that get this and value love and are decently attractive and not weirdos do just fine. My daughter and all of her friends have marriage-material boyfriends because they didn't wait until their late 20s to have their first relationship or finally seek commitment It's really that simple.

A lot of this is self selection of people who are well adjusted, good communicators, have had happy marriages modeled for them, and have good interpersonal skills. I think what we are seeing outside of that is a decrease in those traits generally in the younger generations. You see this in data about the impact of phones and social media on gen z etc - fewer friendships, less time spent with others in person etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:“Young men without a degree are struggling so much as a group that there simply aren’t enough with steady jobs and earnings for non-college women to date,” said Goldman.

This^. There is a shortage of single, young, educated, employed and decent men. Ones who are available, they've plenty of educated, employed and decent women to choose from.

Yes, life is good for those of us in that cohort. Fun times and easy sex. There is no way I would sleep with any of the women in the WSJ article, let alone marry them. Too many better options.

I don’t have many options and I also wouldn’t date any of the wsj article women

Wsj just did a poor job picking profiles

Overweight. Mediocre careers. Kids from previous relationships with obvious bums.

Form a single file line, fellas. I’m sure the interest is overwhelming.

The obvious bums are men and the same goes for men at middle age. You think they aren't overweight, in mediocre careers, kids from previous relationships, and poor choice of partner from previous relationship?

This is what middle age looks like for the majority of Americans. Or they are the same but not married before and no kids and even more immature.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans are bad at relationships, because most Americans don’t have a lot of empathy. In countries with higher rates of marriage and life satisfaction, empathy helps people find solutions not devolve into fighting.

Someone already pointed out that we are seeing decreased rates of marriage across Europe and Asia etc.

Asia is having a major childbirth crisis, not just China from their one child policy, but many Asian countries. Women there are opting out.

[Anonymous]

Do not get married do not have sex
Tell your daughters!
Make them understand the US is not a place to bring a child into period.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Americans are bad at relationships, because most Americans don’t have a lot of empathy. In countries with higher rates of marriage and life satisfaction, empathy helps people find solutions not devolve into fighting.

Someone already pointed out that we are seeing decreased rates of marriage across Europe and Asia etc.

Asia is having a major childbirth crisis, not just China from their one child policy, but many Asian countries. Women there are opting out.

Haven’t you watched Stephen He? Many Asian countries don’t value empathy at all.

[Anonymous]

People aren't willing or able to commit at right age and encouraged by society to dump early partnerships.. More baggage you collect with years, more difficult it becomes to be compatible with your partner, making people not commit to marriage or not stay in it for long, hence single-hood and divorce become easy escape.

[Anonymous]

Marriage, by definition, is a bad deal for an educated, independent women. I'm in my 40s and happily married, but if I were to be single again, I wouldn't date simply because 99.9% of the men are inferior to me. I have a girl in my team who is in her late 20s, beautiful, educated, makes in the mid 200k, and owns her own place. She tells me that most of the guys her age are broke and fat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Women don’t need men to survive like they did in the past. We have our own money, our own homes, and our own children. Who needs a man anymore?

Women who want a loving companion and a family for their children.

Agree, but that assumes a man who is a loving companion and good parent. A man who ticks those boxes will do well.

And attractive and smart women are mostly able to find these men. The biggest hurdle I believe is that you have to find them early. You don't have to marry or have kids early, but I do think by age 25 or so most of the good men are in serious dating relationships. Obviously there are exceptions - good men who for whatever reason didn't want to be committed earlier - but the amount of good ones still unattached shrinks drastically as the years go on.

Most of them aren't even fully formed mentally by 25, so no, that's not a great time to try to figure out who's a good one. The ones who get married early usually have religiosity that encourages them to marry, procreate, and create/maintain a "traditional" household. If that's what you're into, maybe one of those is a "good one" for you. That is NOT universal.

This is just SO not true. You can absolutely tell a good egg at 20, even if it’s not time to get married yet. Things to look for that are easy to tell:

-Kind to people (friends, waiters, professors, dining hall staff, etc.)
-Has $hit together (neat appearance, attends class and does school work, good grades, tidy enough room/apartment)
- good with kids and pets

DH and I met in college and married a few years out of college. Not religious at all. Waited to have kids. But I could tell pretty darn quickly he was a good egg and I was right. He asked me to move with him when he went to law school. I said he had to propose first and he did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Marriage, by definition, is a bad deal for an educated, independent women. I'm in my 40s and happily married, but if I were to be single again, I wouldn't date simply because 99.9% of the men are inferior to me. I have a girl in my team who is in her late 20s, beautiful, educated, makes in the mid 200k, and owns her own place. She tells me that most of the guys her age are broke and fat.

In your 20s it’s not wealth that’s important but trajectory. I met my husband at 21. We were both broke but I could see he was going places.