Elon is coming for social security

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

Okay, so you think hillbillies are hiding bodies, got it. Now, much bigger issue, figure out why there are so many people of working age collecting SSI:

Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for over 4.6 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States. In three states, they represented less than 3 percent of the state population. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries—7 percent or more—were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

Off the top of my head:

AL and MS do not have Medicaid expansion as of 12/23. Hard to qualify for ACA Medicaid in AR and WV, perhaps also KY. Maine may also be in that camp as they had a GOP (antisemitic) governor during that time. So if one is injured on the job or outside of work (e.g., car accident), it can be very hard to recover without medical insurance, access to PT, etc. I grew up in a purple state w/a lot of blue collar workers: you work on an assembly line, have limited insurance, and break your ankle: it’s gonna be hell to return to the line if you are not able to obtain and regain the strength to return to work. I know a few folks where this happened: one was lucky as the company found him a role for more suited for his new reality. The other canned him w/o a second thought.

And these are states w/a lot of blue collar jobs.

Also: being poor sucks, it drains the life out of you. These are poor states (well, Maine has wealthy second home folks, but that’s pretty much it save the LT transplants) and just making it is a struggle. Would not be surprised if many suffer from chronic depression.

It would probably be so much cheaper to pay for PT than SSI for their remaining years.

Going to add on to this - the ability to do suitable work is a key part of the determination. If all you are qualified for is unskilled or hard labor, you will have a much easier time getting disability for a bum leg than say, a lawyer or computer programmer.

Spending money on appropriate care would help these cases, but even more would be job training funds. Get people qualified to do something else. Pretty much anyone can work with the right supports and right training. But that costs money, and we’ve decided throwing a poverty wage check at someone is cheaper and better than getting them back on their feet as productive members of society.

[Anonymous]

https://apnews.com/article/social-security-doge-musk-trump-improper-payments-57f9e374e77e7a24fdff3afa294aa7fe

"as of September 2015, the agency automatically stops payments to people who are older than 115 years old"

Musk is a liar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

The state in which you die notifies SSA. Do you know nothing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

The state in which you die notifies SSA. Do you know nothing?

Where is schooled about this previously hospitals mortuary's funeral homes the police all notify the ssa. So yeah zip it

[Anonymous]

SSA is now being run by an internal, backstabbing MAGA bootlicker.

You just know a lot of this “fraud” is going to involve downsizing the disability rolls. A whole lotta red state MAGATs who rely on their SSI are going to regret their vote soon enough.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/almost-fired-for-working-with-doge-social-security-fraud-expert-now-leads-the-agency

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:SSA is now being run by an internal, backstabbing MAGA bootlicker.

You just know a lot of this “fraud” is going to involve downsizing the disability rolls. A whole lotta red state MAGATs who rely on their SSI are going to regret their vote soon enough.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/almost-fired-for-working-with-doge-social-security-fraud-expert-now-leads-the-agency

People do not realize how hard getting and staying on SSI is. I worked for lawyers whose main job was to get clients get SSI. I did the pre-screening process. I rejected most applicants out of hand and the other half, maybe 75% were awarded SSI even though they legit needed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Possible if they buried the body in the back yard and keep silent and the family have the access to the bank account and maintain it. Normal procedure required morgues to collect the data and report it for death certificate and its link to SS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSA is now being run by an internal, backstabbing MAGA bootlicker.

You just know a lot of this “fraud” is going to involve downsizing the disability rolls. A whole lotta red state MAGATs who rely on their SSI are going to regret their vote soon enough.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/almost-fired-for-working-with-doge-social-security-fraud-expert-now-leads-the-agency

People do not realize how hard getting and staying on SSI is. I worked for lawyers whose main job was to get clients get SSI. I did the pre-screening process. I rejected most applicants out of hand and the other half, maybe 75% were awarded SSI even though they legit needed it.

Depend to who you are talking to. If you are talking to maga, yes they believe the official gave out SS benefits or IEP like candy… because maga need to fit to their narrative.
In reality, that is the opposite… I’ve been to both process and its very exhausting to get.

[CommonSense]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

mortuary /môr′choo͞-ĕr″ē/
noun
A place, especially a funeral home, where dead bodies are kept before burial or cremation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

Okay, so you think hillbillies are hiding bodies, got it. Now, much bigger issue, figure out why there are so many people of working age collecting SSI:

Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for over 4.6 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States. In three states, they represented less than 3 percent of the state population. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries—7 percent or more—were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

Just ask the union head which doctors will deem you disabled and then file for more benies. Easy peasy.

I would not think that WV, MS, AR, or KY are states with unions. Just the opposite. I do agree that there are doctors in all states that can be bought and are unethical enough to issue a report for their patient(s) to qualify for disability insurance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

Okay, so you think hillbillies are hiding bodies, got it. Now, much bigger issue, figure out why there are so many people of working age collecting SSI:

Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for over 4.6 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States. In three states, they represented less than 3 percent of the state population. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries—7 percent or more—were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

Off the top of my head:

AL and MS do not have Medicaid expansion as of 12/23. Hard to qualify for ACA Medicaid in AR and WV, perhaps also KY. Maine may also be in that camp as they had a GOP (antisemitic) governor during that time. So if one is injured on the job or outside of work (e.g., car accident), it can be very hard to recover without medical insurance, access to PT, etc. I grew up in a purple state w/a lot of blue collar workers: you work on an assembly line, have limited insurance, and break your ankle: it’s gonna be hell to return to the line if you are not able to obtain and regain the strength to return to work. I know a few folks where this happened: one was lucky as the company found him a role for more suited for his new reality. The other canned him w/o a second thought.

And these are states w/a lot of blue collar jobs.

Also: being poor sucks, it drains the life out of you. These are poor states (well, Maine has wealthy second home folks, but that’s pretty much it save the LT transplants) and just making it is a struggle. Would not be surprised if many suffer from chronic depression.

It would probably be so much cheaper to pay for PT than SSI for their remaining years.

Going to add on to this - the ability to do suitable work is a key part of the determination. If all you are qualified for is unskilled or hard labor, you will have a much easier time getting disability for a bum leg than say, a lawyer or computer programmer.

Spending money on appropriate care would help these cases, but even more would be job training funds. Get people qualified to do something else. Pretty much anyone can work with the right supports and right training. But that costs money, and we’ve decided throwing a poverty wage check at someone is cheaper and better than getting them back on their feet as productive members of society.

I remember a former POTUS with the initials BHO trying to do this and was eviscerated by the people.

[Anonymous]

CommonSense wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

mortuary /môr′choo͞-ĕr″ē/
noun
A place, especially a funeral home, where dead bodies are kept before burial or cremation.

Can you imagine being so stupid that you would post a comment asking that question rather than typing the exact same words into google?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SSA is now being run by an internal, backstabbing MAGA bootlicker.

You just know a lot of this “fraud” is going to involve downsizing the disability rolls. A whole lotta red state MAGATs who rely on their SSI are going to regret their vote soon enough.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/almost-fired-for-working-with-doge-social-security-fraud-expert-now-leads-the-agency

People do not realize how hard getting and staying on SSI is. I worked for lawyers whose main job was to get clients get SSI. I did the pre-screening process. I rejected most applicants out of hand and the other half, maybe 75% were awarded SSI even though they legit needed it.

Depend to who you are talking to. If you are talking to maga, yes they believe the official gave out SS benefits or IEP like candy… because maga need to fit to their narrative.
In reality, that is the opposite… I’ve been to both process and its very exhausting to get.

Almost everyone non-terminal is rejected immediately, but the numbers are pretty good if you stick with it and follow the chain of appeals. The problem is most people don’t have that kind of time or money considering they’re, you know, disabled.

Most of the things people would think of as “fraud” are expressly allowed. Injuries due to past drug use, homelessness, mental illness, childhood behavior or learning disabilities - all allowed even they don’t pass the smell test in a particular case. If you want to have a debate about whether specific conditions should be eligible to right ahead, but be prepared for that to be a very vigorous debate in which the disability advocates are going to hand you your a$$ and make you look like a eugenicist.

[Anonymous]

Laying off 7000 IRS employees may mess things up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Friends on various social.media platforma are already reporting decreases in their Social security and SSDI payments.

My mother mentioned that to me just now. Hard to believe though.

My smug boomer extended family member who is a Trumper told me this week he is going to work on the process to start drawing social security benefits because he can no longer make ends meet without it. I'm not going to lie... a part of me is hoping he experiences the FO in FAFO. I feel bad about that, but at the same time...I don't.