Elon is coming for social security

[Anonymous]

Posting this report of the analysis already published in 2023 that the idiot newer posters seem unaware of.

https://oig.ssa.gov/assets/uploads/a-06-21-51022.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

So you are willing to goose step into the future because maybe a few people are abusing social security?

Poorly educated, indeed.

Yep. the IRS gets death notices from funeral homes and banks. Fed agencies and state agencies also have this info and report. Some hospitals. Maybe someone who died in the hills of Appalachia and was buried at home might get away with not reporting the death, but it is not going to happen otherwise.

Look PP, at least try to look into things without being kneejerk. Come at us with sound arguments, and maybe we can have a discussion, but when you just flat out make up stuff to justify our current situation...it's a "just wow" situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are about 101,000 people in the US 100 years old and over.

In December 2024, 89,106 people 99 and older received Social Security benefits.

There's no massive fraud.

Reposting this comment too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like tens of millions of Social Security numbers are being reused for illegal immigrants.

Once Elon gets access to IRS data, we will see how many of them are collecting earned income tax credits.

Duh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like tens of millions of Social Security numbers are being reused for illegal immigrants.

Once Elon gets access to IRS data, we will see how many of them are collecting earned income tax credits.

Duh

OKAY. Try for a moment to separate a belief from a fact, an intuition from reality. Because the truth is, "In 2022, unauthorized immigrants contributed $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, typically by working under borrowed or fraudulent Social Security numbers. Unauthorized immigrants, however, are ineligible to claim Social Security benefits."

The system is not set up so they both give and take--only give.

So you are willing to let them gut the system that we and our parents paid into, to break things just because they can, to have access to seriously sensitive data when they have no real permanent position, all for a false assumption?
Really?

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/explainer/immigration-social-security-solvency/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

Okay, so you think hillbillies are hiding bodies, got it. Now, much bigger issue, figure out why there are so many people of working age collecting SSI:

Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for over 4.6 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States. In three states, they represented less than 3 percent of the state population. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries—7 percent or more—were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like tens of millions of Social Security numbers are being reused for illegal immigrants.

Once Elon gets access to IRS data, we will see how many of them are collecting earned income tax credits.

Duh

OKAY. Try for a moment to separate a belief from a fact, an intuition from reality. Because the truth is, "In 2022, unauthorized immigrants contributed $25.7 billion in Social Security taxes, typically by working under borrowed or fraudulent Social Security numbers. Unauthorized immigrants, however, are ineligible to claim Social Security benefits."

The system is not set up so they both give and take--only give.

So you are willing to let them gut the system that we and our parents paid into, to break things just because they can, to have access to seriously sensitive data when they have no real permanent position, all for a false assumption?
Really?

https://bipartisanpolicy.org/explainer/immigration-social-security-solvency/

Guessing their kids are also unvaxxed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

If it costs money I ain’t doing it.

Same for insurance. Who pays for something they might never use?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

Okay, so you think hillbillies are hiding bodies, got it. Now, much bigger issue, figure out why there are so many people of working age collecting SSI:

Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for over 4.6 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States. In three states, they represented less than 3 percent of the state population. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries—7 percent or more—were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

Just ask the union head which doctors will deem you disabled and then file for more benies. Easy peasy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like tens of millions of Social Security numbers are being reused for illegal immigrants.

Once Elon gets access to IRS data, we will see how many of them are collecting earned income tax credits.

Duh

Immigrants use other social security number to report income but they do not use them to collect benefits.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

Okay, so you think hillbillies are hiding bodies, got it. Now, much bigger issue, figure out why there are so many people of working age collecting SSI:

Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for over 4.6 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States. In three states, they represented less than 3 percent of the state population. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries—7 percent or more—were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

Off the top of my head:

AL and MS do not have Medicaid expansion as of 12/23. Hard to qualify for ACA Medicaid in AR and WV, perhaps also KY. Maine may also be in that camp as they had a GOP (antisemitic) governor during that time. So if one is injured on the job or outside of work (e.g., car accident), it can be very hard to recover without medical insurance, access to PT, etc. I grew up in a purple state w/a lot of blue collar workers: you work on an assembly line, have limited insurance, and break your ankle: it’s gonna be hell to return to the line if you are not able to obtain and regain the strength to return to work. I know a few folks where this happened: one was lucky as the company found him a role for more suited for his new reality. The other canned him w/o a second thought.

And these are states w/a lot of blue collar jobs.

Also: being poor sucks, it drains the life out of you. These are poor states (well, Maine has wealthy second home folks, but that’s pretty much it save the LT transplants) and just making it is a struggle. Would not be surprised if many suffer from chronic depression.

It would probably be so much cheaper to pay for PT than SSI for their remaining years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

Okay, so you think hillbillies are hiding bodies, got it. Now, much bigger issue, figure out why there are so many people of working age collecting SSI:

Disabled beneficiaries aged 18–64 in current-payment status accounted for over 4.6 percent of the population aged 18–64 in the United States. In three states, they represented less than 3 percent of the state population. The states with the highest rates of disabled beneficiaries—7 percent or more—were Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky, Maine, Mississippi, and West Virginia.

Just ask the union head which doctors will deem you disabled and then file for more benies. Easy peasy.

LOL if you think these are union states. Do you know anything?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

If it costs money I ain’t doing it.

Same for insurance. Who pays for something they might never use?

Is your plan for your relatives to dig a hole?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm glad they are checking into this. I think people are collecting on their parents who are dead. They probably never notified SSA about their parents death and grand parents death and are collecting. I wouldn't be surprised if scammers caught on to this and are collecting. They need to further investigate and prosecute these people.

Like they have a body in their crawl space? My mother died last month, when the death certificate is filed (mortuary did this), SSA is notified. The direct deposit payment was back out of her account before I could even notify the bank she was deceased (didn't have the printed death certificate yet).

Just because you think it in your head doesn't mean it's that simple.

What’s a mortuary?

If it costs money I ain’t doing it.

Same for insurance. Who pays for something they might never use?

Okay, call 911 to get rid of the body, there will be a reported death, and no more SSI.