Closing USAID

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Anonymous wrote:If USAID information is in a scif the there is something seriously amiss.

Not really. Many of USAID’s overseas foreign partners don’t want to be advertised in their home country as taking US money. It can be dangerous on the ground for them. USAID reps take confidential meetings with foreign government representatives; those discussions would be classified. China is always trying to undercut USAID or sabotage projects, so we need to work carefully and discreetly.

You get that foreign aid is a competition, right? We are competing with Russia and China to influence these foreign governments

Why is it a competition? So it is a foreign influence/opposition-in-other/countries funding mechanism? Are the American people really signing up for this?

You say that like it’s a bad thing. I like America First and spreading our influence, values, and democracy. I’d also rather have stable developing countries, lowering the risk of refugee and health crises.

Yes, the American people signed up for this. it was established by law by Congress and enacted via EO by President Kennedy. The U.S. - by law - is required to have a foreign aid agency.

It is a bad thing. I don’t think we should be colonizing the planet with our values and influence. That’s a white supremacist/Nazi mindset. Especially when other governments feel we are funding internal opposition within their domestic affairs. I know I don’t want other governments influencing our domestic affairs—like Russian Facebook election meddling.

GWB blew through trillions of dollars and killed hundreds of thousands spreading democracy. I thought we learned our lesson about the folly there.

Mutually beneficial, non-coercive trade sounds great. Why are health initiatives, development and refugee prevention so secretive?

Helping prevent the spread of bird flu, aids and Ebola is not "colonizing"

+1

Keep in mind that addressing the AIDS epidemic is absolutely a selfish American interest when you consider how viruses mutate extensively in immunocompromised individuals (HIV positive and not on antiviral meds are all immunocompromised).

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Anonymous wrote:I'm okay with closing USAID. These countries hate us anyway, and are taking our money while making deals with China. No thank you.

Well as long as you’re ok with it, then so what about the babies who will die. Right??

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Anonymous wrote:I'm okay with closing USAID. These countries hate us anyway, and are taking our money while making deals with China. No thank you.

Well as long as you’re ok with it, then so what about the babies who will die. Right??

Everyone who lives also dies. There's not been a full and transparent public discussion about whether the people of the US actually owe all this money to the third world, who hates us and views us as cultural colonizers. In one lens this is humanitarian. But in another, less American lens, this is soft imperialism. There's no plan for these nations to get better or stronger. We are just paying for stasis.

But this isn't why AID is being shut down. It's being shut down because it is believed to have funneled money to revolutionary efforts in the US, including funding the prosecutions through the org Fair and Just Prosecutions, via the Tide Center.

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Anonymous wrote:Now they are admitting it

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna190388

Wow. Who knew the swamp was this filthy?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm okay with closing USAID. These countries hate us anyway, and are taking our money while making deals with China. No thank you.

Well as long as you’re ok with it, then so what about the babies who will die. Right??

Everyone who lives also dies. There's not been a full and transparent public discussion about whether the people of the US actually owe all this money to the third world, who hates us and views us as cultural colonizers. In one lens this is humanitarian. But in another, less American lens, this is soft imperialism. There's no plan for these nations to get better or stronger. We are just paying for stasis.

But this isn't why AID is being shut down. It's being shut down because it is believed to have funneled money to revolutionary efforts in the US, including funding the prosecutions through the org Fair and Just Prosecutions, via the Tide Center.

Stasis = USA is the global superpower

Removing ourselves from the equation = Russia and China having free reign


It is NOT in our interest to allow Russia and China a free pass to control the entire planet. Why would anyone have to explain that to you?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm okay with closing USAID. These countries hate us anyway, and are taking our money while making deals with China. No thank you.

Well as long as you’re ok with it, then so what about the babies who will die. Right??

Everyone who lives also dies. There's not been a full and transparent public discussion about whether the people of the US actually owe all this money to the third world, who hates us and views us as cultural colonizers. In one lens this is humanitarian. But in another, less American lens, this is soft imperialism. There's no plan for these nations to get better or stronger. We are just paying for stasis.

But this isn't why AID is being shut down. It's being shut down because it is believed to have funneled money to revolutionary efforts in the US, including funding the prosecutions through the org Fair and Just Prosecutions, via the Tide Center.

Stasis = USA is the global superpower

Removing ourselves from the equation = Russia and China having free reign


It is NOT in our interest to allow Russia and China a free pass to control the entire planet. Why would anyone have to explain that to you?

Things used to work that way, but they don't anymore. China and Russia are *gaining* influence in the third (and second) world, even as we furiously send historic levels of "aid" to these nations. This would suggest that the USAID strategy is not only not working, but is actually weakening out hold on these nations.

China and Russia are succeeding because they are offering business partnerships, critical infrastructure, etc. We offer... what? Our version of human rights, which they consider cultural invasion? This isn't working. It's not working. They don't want us to liberate them from their traditions and from the gender binary. Other countries are offering something other than economic stasis and cultural rot. Maybe we should too.

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Why do Democrats allow China to have “free reign” over the US?

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Anonymous wrote:Claiming he was trying to get access to classified information. What classified information does USAID have?

Elon's goons tried to enter a SKIF without the required level of clearance. The head of security intervened and stopped them, as required by law. The next day, the head of security (John Voorhees) was placed on leave.

I hope you're happy. You've handed over our country to an impulsive and delusional billionaire who was neither elected nor appointed to any post in the government. He's "modernizing" our payment infrastructure as we speak--and likely installing (intentionally or unintentionally) all kinds of backdoors and security vulnerabilities.

What dee F is a SKIF?

You mean a SCIF?

I guess Daily Kossack or The Bulwark or Vox or where ever you get your talking points from don't know what they're talking about.

BTW, you can be escorted into a SCIF under the proper procedures. I have a feeling you're getting 1/3 of the story and going orbital over it.

Are you talking about MAGAs because yes they always take 1/3 of the story from fox mind you and go orbital....so yeah. Example: their eating the cats their eating the dogs

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Anonymous wrote:Why do Democrats allow China to have “free reign” over the US?

LOL

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What kind of money are we talking, OP?

Which countries no longer have starving children as a result of all this funneled cash?

Wow. I often wonder how people could have voted for Trump. Then I read a response like this and see there really are awful, cold hearted people out there!

NP. Our own kids are hungry

Only the billionaires are telling you that you can’t do both as the world’s richest nation - feed our people and help the world’s poorest and suffering. Foreign aid is a tiny fraction of our budget.

These same billionaires tell you that healthcare isn’t a right and you should go bankrupt for healthcare, that you shouldn’t have any paid parental leave, and that it’s ok for companies to price gauge because “shareholder value”.

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So the next President could re-constitute USAID and roll the DoD under it. That's the precedent we're setting here. The President can do whatever he or she wants.

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Anonymous wrote:Feel free to send your own money to your favorite causes at any time.

Exactly.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm okay with closing USAID. These countries hate us anyway, and are taking our money while making deals with China. No thank you.

Well as long as you’re ok with it, then so what about the babies who will die. Right??

Everyone who lives also dies. There's not been a full and transparent public discussion about whether the people of the US actually owe all this money to the third world, who hates us and views us as cultural colonizers. In one lens this is humanitarian. But in another, less American lens, this is soft imperialism. There's no plan for these nations to get better or stronger. We are just paying for stasis.

But this isn't why AID is being shut down. It's being shut down because it is believed to have funneled money to revolutionary efforts in the US, including funding the prosecutions through the org Fair and Just Prosecutions, via the Tide Center.

This is utter nonsense. Complete and vile nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm okay with closing USAID. These countries hate us anyway, and are taking our money while making deals with China. No thank you.

Well as long as you’re ok with it, then so what about the babies who will die. Right??

Everyone who lives also dies. There's not been a full and transparent public discussion about whether the people of the US actually owe all this money to the third world, who hates us and views us as cultural colonizers. In one lens this is humanitarian. But in another, less American lens, this is soft imperialism. There's no plan for these nations to get better or stronger. We are just paying for stasis.

But this isn't why AID is being shut down. It's being shut down because it is believed to have funneled money to revolutionary efforts in the US, including funding the prosecutions through the org Fair and Just Prosecutions, via the Tide Center.

Stasis = USA is the global superpower

Removing ourselves from the equation = Russia and China having free reign


It is NOT in our interest to allow Russia and China a free pass to control the entire planet. Why would anyone have to explain that to you?

Because PP is not smart. PP talks about how people in Africa feel about Americans, but PP has never been to Africa and basically lives in a tiny white, American MC bubble, watching Fox News and reading fb groups.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm okay with closing USAID. These countries hate us anyway, and are taking our money while making deals with China. No thank you.

Well as long as you’re ok with it, then so what about the babies who will die. Right??

Everyone who lives also dies. There's not been a full and transparent public discussion about whether the people of the US actually owe all this money to the third world, who hates us and views us as cultural colonizers. In one lens this is humanitarian. But in another, less American lens, this is soft imperialism. There's no plan for these nations to get better or stronger. We are just paying for stasis.

But this isn't why AID is being shut down. It's being shut down because it is believed to have funneled money to revolutionary efforts in the US, including funding the prosecutions through the org Fair and Just Prosecutions, via the Tide Center.

Stasis = USA is the global superpower

Removing ourselves from the equation = Russia and China having free reign


It is NOT in our interest to allow Russia and China a free pass to control the entire planet. Why would anyone have to explain that to you?

Because PP is not smart. PP talks about how people in Africa feel about Americans, but PP has never been to Africa and basically lives in a tiny white, American MC bubble, watching Fox News and reading fb groups.

Pp used to live in the third world, but okay. It doesn't matter anyway, does it? USAID is over. This is just the postmortem.