My headspace for the next 4 years

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

Yep, yep. Show us. But also, the prices better not go up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

Okay.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

Sitting back is not an effective way to get what you want. I would start to take a look at 2026 and see if there are seats in Congress that can be flipped. How do we get a winning coalition to get out and vote?

This. OP, I agree that this time around I will no longer freak out or worry and I also plan to sit back and enjoy the shitshow that is coming (because FAFO), but I am also going to focus on the next elections. As we pivot more to state rights, now more than ever we should all be paying more attention to our state politicians. In Virginia where I live, next year (November 2025) we will elect a Governor, Lt. Governor, and an AG. These positions can have a larger impact on our lives than those of politicians at the national level. AGs from blue states, for example, fought efforts to overturn the ACA. Don't just give up, OP. Get involved.

Not OP but I'm right there with you. Not attending public protests, not engaging in entertainment. Just keeping my head down and helping elect Democrats first local in 2025 (lots of locals races in Spring 2025), then winning back Congress. Senate may be hard but with good candidates we can flip KS maybe another state.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

It's not your urban elites doing fentanyl, my man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m Latina. I voted for Harris (as did most Latinas). So did all of my close (Latina) friends. It’s wild to see all these white people lump us all together and go “well you it’s your fault, you asked for it.”
Aside from black women, I don’t think any demographic can point fingers right now. And what about LGBTAQ folks? Did they have it coming as well? If you all want to be indifferent, then have at it. I’m tired as well. But your anger and resentment are displaced.

I'm a white woman who worked my a ss off to get Harris elected. I'm continuing to work to build political power.

But I think Dems in power need to grow a pair and stop bailing out the GOP. Rs won it all, let them govern.

Unfortunately, there will be collateral damage. How do we safeguard people from that while getting those who voted 3rd party, didn't vote at all, or those who CHOOSE to vote for Trump to understand the consequences of their actions? I know, they won't.

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Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

This +100

This is partially but only partially where I’m at, too. Tipping me to that - a poster upthread snotted “Sorry?” at someone who noted that not all vulnerable people abandoned Harris, and that s/be voted for Harris. That “Sorry?” is this thread boiled down to a word.

The PP who tried to convince lots of family members to be sane and yet they voted for Trump - I am really sorry. I think I get how crazy-making it is to actually sit down with someone you care about and plead for them to look at something dispassionately. This all sucks. My family is going to suffer.
None of us were ever gonna abandon the Dem nominee.

The fact is that plenty of vulnerable people did not support Trump on any level. It makes me still emotional even if there’s no point to see person after person here say they’re preemptively going to shrug at another Muslim ban, as if literally every MENA person voted for him or abstained. It’s just not true. It’s such an ugly posture to take. I know this won’t change minds but I wish people would stop doing these sorts of fk yous. The internet is real life, right? If you respond to things and say the cruelest sht imaginable doesn’t that speak to who you are, too? That’s not the same behavior as just being disengaged. You can go on sabbatical without hitting the leopard ate my face meme on every thread here til January 2029.

Yes but it is just so rich that once again it's the Dems being chided as cruel - because we are accepting that the person who the majority voted into office is probably going to do the terrible things he's promised to do.

I guess I no longer feel like I need to be the adult in the room for this. People should prepare however they feel best - and are best - able to do so. Dems were decisively voted out. We don't have the power - and that also means we don't have the responsibility. What you are perceiving as cruelty is us coming to grips with our loss - and our lack of power to make things better.

I'll donate to groups that are helping. But I just refuse, refuse, to spend the next four years in resistance mode. I can't do it again. People chose this. They chose it. And now it's going to be bad. And marching and being upset again isn't going to help.

Marching is ineffective but working to build political power is not. Being upset is a waste of time but volunteering to keep VA blue or flip seats is not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I refuse to let the next 4 years of president Trump and the chaos he brings affect me mentally the way it did 2016-2020. My plan now is to just sit back and watch (sometimes with popcorn) - at least when I feel like tuning in. Since this is a DC based board I assume many of you, like me, understand and have concerns about the democratic norms he upends and the disruption he brings and you do not take our system of government for granted. But at this point it seems the American people - or about half of them - want this disruption.

My state of mind is to focus on what is right in front of me - family, friends and local community. I will watch with detached interest what public administration reforms, to put it lightly, these next 4 years will bring. What I won't do is freak out, get upset, or worry about every outrageous thing he says or does because in a way that is what drives his power. Plus, I don't want to.

Thoughts?

Sitting back is not an effective way to get what you want. I would start to take a look at 2026 and see if there are seats in Congress that can be flipped. How do we get a winning coalition to get out and vote?

Cross your fingers the remaining House races go blue. 10 out of 17 yet to be called

They won't. But we can start on 2026. Heck 2025 in VA, and NJ. H ell, Spring 2025 in municipalities across the country.

There is no reason to disengage. You can build power AND ignore the chaos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

No wars! No Fentanyl! Sounds great! Can't wait to see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I supported Harris for president but was ready to oppose many of her policies. I have similar issues with Trump. The Dems deserved to go down just as much as Trump. What is fascinating is how they missed so many obvious signs that they never had the mandates they thought they had for several years. The election had been very thing to do with Dem overreach on identity politics and nothing about Trump. Yes, he is a horrible person, but people already knew that. That is how egregious people felt those politics were. Sure, they like Obamacare but they hate being told things like xyz so you must vote Dem otherwise you’re a self hating so and so, or MAGA, or racist, or misogynistic, or whatever.

Voters want balance and that’s why the same district will vote AOC and Trump.

I’m not happy about some things Trump will do, but the Dem meltdowns are entertaining. I will spend the next four years thinking, I told you so. I have very little empathy for people like OP.

Exhibit A of the type of person who thinks their angst about pronouns is more important than healthcare. When the GOP was the one who kept putting culture wars to the front. They knew they had a winner, because of off kilter people like the PP.

In answer to the OP, I'm done worrying about Trump. The idiots like the above voted for him. I'm hoping he'll continue to be a big liar and NOT do most of what he said he would do, although the cabinet picks coming out are not encouraging.

I agree with the PPs that have talked about focusing on local and state level politics. That is where we can have big impact and try to help people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We all just had to sit and watch a wide open border policy, crime go through the roof, record inflation, attack on common sense. So……

Oh, I’m sure you spent your evenings nodding along to Fox News and wringing your hands.

I’m so excited for you to see what happens.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

No wars! No Fentanyl! Sounds great! Can't wait to see it.

I also can’t wait to control our own inflation even when the rest of the world can’t. Because of course only one party is ever responsible for global inflation. Everything occurs in a vacuum! The voters said so!

Boy, I can’t wait for all those princes to come down. And all the affordable housing as well.

Have at it, trumpers!

[Anonymous]

Prices not princes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

Yep, yep. Show us. But also, the prices better not go up.

It's really funny that pp thinks the "left" wants wars and fentanyl. Honey, those are right wing things right there. Half the state of West Virginia is going to freak out is there is no fentanyl.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

It's not your urban elites doing fentanyl, my man.

This must be a troll

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Naw, in reality, the Left FA (riots, immigration, crime, UKR, etc.) now they are about to FO (deportations, law and order, no wars, no fentanyl, etc.)

Yep, yep. Show us. But also, the prices better not go up.

It's really funny that pp thinks the "left" wants wars and fentanyl. Honey, those are right wing things right there. Half the state of West Virginia is going to freak out is there is no fentanyl.

Right?!