Al Smith Dinner

[Anonymous]

I watched parts of this and thought his delivery sounded slurred, slow, and off. These posters unsurprisingly made it out to be much more dynamic. And of course he didn’t come up with the few zingers that he delivered (eg the Whitmer joke). Are you kidding me, lol?! He’s never been that sharp, even in his prime. He probably didn’t even know about the story to begin with. He already admitted that people at Fox wrote jokes for him.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/18/media/trump-fox-al-smith-dinner-speech

(Sorry if this was already posted, I couldn’t bear to read the entire thread)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

Latinos who are religious are leaving the church for non-denominational/evangelical. Most are cafeteria/cultural Catholics at this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:spot on

Not spot on. Just a lame attempt at shaming by Gaffigan.

This reminds me of the Post's supposedly critical article on Harris's managerial skills: she expects staff to be prepared, she understands the subject before the briefing, etc. In other words, Oh, how awful of her to be on top of things!

And now Gaffigan: Oh, how awful that Kamala is doing a ton of campaigning and interviews, presenting her views to a range of audiences! Tsk!

He's following the Miss Manners rule of only teasing people about things they're proud of.

And yet Harris herself is not prepared, as we've witnessed in her interviews. What would you do on Day 1 as President? Um, I grew up in a middle class background...

Right, right. That and policies, including specific percentages and dollar figures, and an 85 page economic plan. So vague!

If only she could come up with something as sound as tariffs and turning the military on citizens who disagree with you.

Harris can formulate policies because she is of sound body and mind. Elderly angry men just yell nonsense

[Anonymous]

The Molly Shannon skit with Kamala was terrible and anyone saying otherwise is in denial. The skit and movie it was based was released 25 years ago. The movie Superstar (1999) was a huge box office flop. The skit was on SNL when they averaged 5-6 million viewers in the late 90s. It’s niche.

Translation: Very few people know who the hell that washed up actress is in 2024, let alone her SNL character from 25 to 30 years ago. Even if you did recognize her, it frankly just wasn’t funny at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Molly Shannon skit with Kamala was terrible and anyone saying otherwise is in denial. The skit and movie it was based was released 25 years ago. The movie Superstar (1999) was a huge box office flop. The skit was on SNL when they averaged 5-6 million viewers in the late 90s. It’s niche.

Translation: Very few people know who the hell that washed up actress is in 2024, let alone her SNL character from 25 to 30 years ago. Even if you did recognize her, it frankly just wasn’t funny at all.

The brain trust who came up with that idea are Gen X cat lady “strategists” who were watching TV alone on Saturday nights in the 90s. Or just some lazy millennial grifters who came upon it while googling Catholic characters for five minutes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Molly Shannon skit with Kamala was terrible and anyone saying otherwise is in denial. The skit and movie it was based was released 25 years ago. The movie Superstar (1999) was a huge box office flop. The skit was on SNL when they averaged 5-6 million viewers in the late 90s. It’s niche.

Translation: Very few people know who the hell that washed up actress is in 2024, let alone her SNL character from 25 to 30 years ago. Even if you did recognize her, it frankly just wasn’t funny at all.

I did recognize her and I thought it was all very clever.

[Anonymous]

Washington Post is on the case tracking down who wrote jokes for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Chuck Schumer is a pos for going to this. Ugh

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chuck Schumer is a pos for going to this. Ugh

Most NYS and NYC politicians show up to this event.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Molly Shannon skit with Kamala was terrible and anyone saying otherwise is in denial. The skit and movie it was based was released 25 years ago. The movie Superstar (1999) was a huge box office flop. The skit was on SNL when they averaged 5-6 million viewers in the late 90s. It’s niche.

Translation: Very few people know who the hell that washed up actress is in 2024, let alone her SNL character from 25 to 30 years ago. Even if you did recognize her, it frankly just wasn’t funny at all.

The brain trust who came up with that idea are Gen X cat lady “strategists” who were watching TV alone on Saturday nights in the 90s. Or just some lazy millennial grifters who came upon it while googling Catholic characters for five minutes.

+1. Considering they are the darlings of Hollywood it’s incredible what a humorless crowd they are. They are happiest when they are miserable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Chuck Schumer is a pos for going to this. Ugh

He’s a POS for what he’s doing to this country, not for attending this event.

He looked like he knew the election is lost sitting next to Trump. He’s a very unpleasant person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.

I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.

G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?

Catholics have a very strong social justice tradition. Caring for the poor, immigrants, those on the outskirts of society. Deeds (actions) over words (saying you love Jesus and quoting the Bible means nothing without actually SHOWING you do through actions). The nasty anti-immigrant stance of the GOP doesn’t sit well with social justice oriented Catholics.

And there are many pro-choice Catholics as well. But Harris already has those. No point in attending a dinner alongside the nasty orange one with the hope of converting some strays. Her video appearance sufficed. She had far more important fish to fry.

Her non-attendance fits perfectly with her message. She’s the change candidate.

She’s the “change” candidate who can’t think of one thing she’d do differently than Biden or reason that she offers change. She’s the status quo candidate and a failed VP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I watched parts of this and thought his delivery sounded slurred, slow, and off. These posters unsurprisingly made it out to be much more dynamic. And of course he didn’t come up with the few zingers that he delivered (eg the Whitmer joke). Are you kidding me, lol?! He’s never been that sharp, even in his prime. He probably didn’t even know about the story to begin with. He already admitted that people at Fox wrote jokes for him.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/18/media/trump-fox-al-smith-dinner-speech

(Sorry if this was already posted, I couldn’t bear to read the entire thread)

He didn't have a teleprompter and was doing it from written notes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Molly Shannon skit with Kamala was terrible and anyone saying otherwise is in denial. The skit and movie it was based was released 25 years ago. The movie Superstar (1999) was a huge box office flop. The skit was on SNL when they averaged 5-6 million viewers in the late 90s. It’s niche.

Translation: Very few people know who the hell that washed up actress is in 2024, let alone her SNL character from 25 to 30 years ago. Even if you did recognize her, it frankly just wasn’t funny at all.

How in the world do you consider Molly Shannon "washed up"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Chuck Schumer is a pos for going to this. Ugh

Most NYS and NYC politicians show up to this event.

Trump is in places like NY and CA because he needs money. Harris didn’t need to go to Al Smith to hobnob with money men.

Harris is whipping votes. Better strategy.