Al Smith Dinner

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday the Archdiocese announced an 800k settlement for victims of their priests' abuse. I think Harris was wise to avoid this catholic fundraiser


“The Archdiocese” in question is on the other side of the country.
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Anonymous wrote:Gee, a bunch of religious people who embrace a cheater, rapist and convicted felon.

It's no wonder so many people despise religion and religious people. Too much hypocrisy.

-Christian


Funny that they held it the same day the diocese of LA was forced to pay an $800 million settlement for sexually abusing children. Were there any jokes about it?

-former Catholic school child who has experience with their abuse
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Nostradomus or NostrDolanus?

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Anonymous wrote:Yesterday the Archdiocese announced an 800k settlement for victims of their priests' abuse. I think Harris was wise to avoid this catholic fundraiser


“The Archdiocese” in question is on the other side of the country.


Oh right because only priests in California abuse children
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Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.







Is that supposed to convince me why it is fine that you support how women are treated in Saudi Arabia? You are such a hypocrite. Ridiculous.


What the hell are you babbling about? Do you need your meds adjusted?


Such a sophisticated rejoinder. Such brilliance, so insightful. 😂
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Anonymous wrote:NP. What’s interesting is that the bigoted anti-Catholic poster who is rapid-fire posting here is almost certainly someone who defends the treatment of women in places like Saudi Arabia. Interesting to see the hypocrisy.







Is that supposed to convince me why it is fine that you support how women are treated in Saudi Arabia? You are such a hypocrite. Ridiculous.


What the hell are you babbling about? Do you need your meds adjusted?


Such a sophisticated rejoinder. Such brilliance, so insightful. 😂


DP you get what you give
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Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.


I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.


G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?


Catholics have a very strong social justice tradition. Caring for the poor, immigrants, those on the outskirts of society. Deeds (actions) over words (saying you love Jesus and quoting the Bible means nothing without actually SHOWING you do through actions). The nasty anti-immigrant stance of the GOP doesn’t sit well with social justice oriented Catholics.



And there are many pro-choice Catholics as well. But Harris already has those. No point in attending a dinner alongside the nasty orange one with the hope of converting some strays. Her video appearance sufficed. She had far more important fish to fry.
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Anonymous wrote:The fact of the matter is that the white American Catholic Church is getting more radical, extreme, and political as time goes on.

Lots of normal, moderate Catholics have left the Church since the abuse scandals, coverups, and restitution payments. I have so many politically moderate friends who do not want to raise their kids in the Church, even if they otherwise received a fantastic education from Catholic schools. Congregations are getting older and more conservative. Young people converting to Catholicism tend to hard-right and are embracing TradCath ideologies, seeing it as a new form of conservative Republican networking.

It will be interesting to see how Latino and African-American Catholics react to the changes happening among the white elite who still control the power levers of the American Catholic Church. They are not nearly as radical in their ideologies.


I don't know what you mean by moderate Catholic. Plenty of people across the whole political spectrum at your local Catholic Church. If by moderate you are talking about people who don't want to believe core teachings of the church, then good, they should leave and find a church that agrees with them. But it is they who have drifted; the church is not the one changing its position on these teachings.


G-d forbid actual Catholics follow the teachings of Jesus Christ right?


Catholics have a very strong social justice tradition. Caring for the poor, immigrants, those on the outskirts of society. Deeds (actions) over words (saying you love Jesus and quoting the Bible means nothing without actually SHOWING you do through actions). The nasty anti-immigrant stance of the GOP doesn’t sit well with social justice oriented Catholics.



And there are many pro-choice Catholics as well. But Harris already has those. No point in attending a dinner alongside the nasty orange one with the hope of converting some strays. Her video appearance sufficed. She had far more important fish to fry.


Her non-attendance fits perfectly with her message. She’s the change candidate.
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Anonymous wrote:spot on



2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!


The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?


No one cares about the Al Smith dinner


Trump gets great ratings. He’s actually not lying when he reminds people about all the time. It can be easily fact checked too


I don't think he does so much anymore. Maybe I'm wrong - but it really feels like everyone knows and is tired of his schtick. Sometimes he does something new - like gently swaying on stage for 39 minutes instead of giving a speech - and that gets people's attention again. But I think the shine is gone.
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Anonymous wrote:I kind of like how he doesn’t give a fk what he says. It used to bother me, but maybe part of me is sort of happy to see push back against the grievance Olympics and perpetual offense culture we live in today. Don’t get me wrong. I’m going to vote Harris, but I can see why a lot of young men like Trump. He isn’t a pssy and just says whatever he wants without care if someone is offended. Everyone is too scared to say anything in public these days. Whether it’s on a college campus or whatever.


You this he is a departure from the grievance machine? What does he do other than air grievances?
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2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!


The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?


No one cares about the Al Smith dinner


Trump gets great ratings. He’s actually not lying when he reminds people about all the time. It can be easily fact checked too


I don't think he does so much anymore. Maybe I'm wrong - but it really feels like everyone knows and is tired of his schtick. Sometimes he does something new - like gently swaying on stage for 39 minutes instead of giving a speech - and that gets people's attention again. But I think the shine is gone.


This. Harris’ ratings for her Fox ratings tanked his. He’s an old has-been. One of those shuffling tap dancers who barely move.
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Anonymous wrote:Trump was hilarious. It was a complete miscalculation for Harris to not show.


You're the only person who thought he was funny. His screed laced with profanity.
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Not spot on. Just a lame attempt at shaming by Gaffigan.


This reminds me of the Post's supposedly critical article on Harris's managerial skills: she expects staff to be prepared, she understands the subject before the briefing, etc. In other words, Oh, how awful of her to be on top of things!

And now Gaffigan: Oh, how awful that Kamala is doing a ton of campaigning and interviews, presenting her views to a range of audiences! Tsk!

He's following the Miss Manners rule of only teasing people about things they're proud of.


And yet Harris herself is not prepared, as we've witnessed in her interviews. What would you do on Day 1 as President? Um, I grew up in a middle class background...


Right, right. That and policies, including specific percentages and dollar figures, and an 85 page economic plan. So vague!

If only she could come up with something as sound as tariffs and turning the military on citizens who disagree with you.
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2016: Why didn't Hillary Clinton campaign in Wisconsin?!

2024: Why did Kamala Harris campaign in Wisconsin instead of going to a white tie dinner in New York City?!


The election tradition white tie dinner… which was carried live across cable, YouTube, twitter, etc. and creates hundreds of millions of impressions via viral clipped content and Friday news articles?


Given that Trump has blown through every tradition from not doing 60 minutes to not participating in a peaceful transfer of power, I think you can give attendance at an elite coastal event a rest.

Or attending his successors inauguration.
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