"Is MCPS losing its edge?"

[Anonymous]

I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

[Anonymous]

Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Can you all stop accusing people of being private school parents and actually engage with the issues at hand?

Here’s just one example:

During the 2023-2024 school year, Rebekah Jacobs’ son was required to read only 2 books for English class at Wootton High School and none of his writing assignments were more than 4 pages long. He, like all freshmen at the school, was in honors English.

During the 2022-2023 school year, Paul Jaskunas’ son was supposed to be studying Homer’s The Odyssey for his sophomore year honors English class at B-CC, but the students were only assigned a short excerpt from the book. To round out the unit, the class watched a 12-minute YouTube video summarizing the plot, performed a skit of the scene, and read a novella about Penelope, Odysseus’ wife.

Jacobs and Jaskunas are both members of the curriculum committee of the Montgomery County Council of Parent-Teacher Associations, At a recent workshop with MCPS administrators in attendance, the committee reported that in classrooms at every socioeconomic level, “students are not reading a lot of texts within the grade level band.” Even at high schools with 90% pass rates on the MCAP, where even the feeder schools had 70+ percent MCAP pass rates, “teachers are not assigning grade-level work,” the organization reported.

The bolded is the source of the problem. If everyone is in Honors English, but they've reduced or changed the readings to account for a wider range of abilities in the class, then no one is in Honors English.

The Honors/Advanced English thing is stupid. My middle school kid is in "Advanced English." So are all the rest of his classmates--they don't need to inflate the titles of the coursework if there's no actual differentiation.

Middle School Advanced English is SO SO SO bad. They often just read excerpts of books instead of reading the entire book.

The teachers are supposed to make the class ‘equitable’ and ‘accessible’ so instead of having the kids actually read the book, they show YouTube videos of someone else reading it.

There is zero differentiation.

Wut the fuqqq? Insanity.

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Anonymous wrote:I just read the article. What an absolute mess.

I can’t understand how anyone can continue defending this district or pretending it’s providing kids with a high quality education.

Can you post it online? I don't think it's on their website, which is annoying.

Try this: https://issuu.com/bethesdamagazine/docs/bethesda-sept-2024?ff

It starts on page 64.

Wow. The article was good and thorough. The responses from MCPS, via its spokesperson, was absolutely pathetic. MCPS has no shame.

Where was MCPS’s response to the article?

There were several responses from someone only identified as an MCPS spokesperson in the article.....

Oh, yeah — I saw those. I thought you meant they’ve responded separately.

Their statement about final exams was pathetic.

Final exams? That could hurt somebodies feelings or appear racist. That crap is from when America was great. We’re happy down here in the sloppy slovely disheveled sewer catching West Nile virus and Monkeypox.

And then when they get to college, they have a damn rude awakening when they realize they’ll actually have to write papers, read books, and take final exams.

Not really. Colleges have had to adjust to reality and meet students where they are.

Yes, we know. Equity has destroyed schools. No things are so bad that Harvard had to teach remedial algebra to incoming freshman.


The entire country is on the decline. Equity at all costs has ruined everything, because having any kind of standards and bars for quality and rigor is automatically deemed ‘racist’ if the numbers that pass don’t have the desired racial profile liberals want.


I hope you all are making your kids learn Chinese, because they are overtaking the world and innovation due to their academic rigor and zero craps given about all of this equity garbage. They have hard standards and allow the best to thrive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

Honestly, no lies told. It's sad. And I say this as someone who considers themselves to be on the liberal end of the spectrum, though admittedly more moderate than full-on progressive.

MoCo and MCPS are in serious trouble.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

Umm … what?

No one loves to hate MCPS. We hate MCPS because it provides a subpar education.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

Lmao

Found the overpaid dimwit on the MCPS central office payroll. MCPS are poor. Just because they're less poor than other schools in the country is a really crappy comparison.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

The reality is that graduation rates should be halved or even lower. But MCPS have no standards, so they pretty much graduate everyone with a pulse. The very few whom don't graduate at probably truants with records so egregious that the central office can't even cover up for them.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I did a little research. MCPS *was* better than a Private School back in the 80’s 90’s? Sometime in the early 2000’s it seemed to decline. I 100% agree the focus needs to be on basic academics.

There’s a lot of whining about how tutoring or demographics or money is a factor. Deal with it. From what I heard anecdotally, even when mcps offered free tutoring there were many demographic parents that didn’t even bother signing up? How is that a school issue? It was a huge embarrassment for CO folks claiming demographics was a learning factor, imho.

There are pretty much only two ways to learn. A parent enforcing discipline or a kid becomes self-motivated. The school can’t control the first and only the teachers can help with the second. Does the CO care? Not when drug dealing teachers are okay to hire. Without quality teachers, supported by their leadership, it doesn’t really matter what anyone says or does because the school system fails at that point.

That’s why it’s stupid to bash the schools still able to generate top scores. Right now those few schools are keeping mcps from circling down the drain. Mess with them and public school in Montgomery County will never bounce back once parents switch to private. Instead of ‘how do we fund’ the cycle will be ‘how do we cut’ and public school will become daycare for parents unable to afford private.

Blair is a perfect example. Remove just 100 magnet students and what’s left? 70% college ready? And it’s not even nationally ranked as a stem school WITH the magnet kids there now?

Mcps needs to smell the coffee before it’s too late to fix.

MCPS is still better than any private school in the DMV.
It is the Big Dog and that is why everyone loves to hate MCPS.

Lmao

Found the overpaid dimwit on the MCPS central office payroll. MCPS are poor. Just because they're less poor than other schools in the country is a really crappy comparison.

OK, but you still cannot compete with MCPS academically.
They will run circles around you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

The reality is that graduation rates should be halved or even lower. But MCPS have no standards, so they pretty much graduate everyone with a pulse. The very few whom don't graduate at probably truants with records so egregious that the central office can't even cover up for them.

Now we know you're truly stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Your point??????

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the county rolled out the carpet for illegal immigration. What do you expect?

They also have basically legalized criminal behavior in schools. Our cousins recently graduated from BCC. The stories they told of kids trashing bathrooms, doing drugs, fights, etc. Even the 'good' schools in MoCo are garbage. MCPS is just one gigantic baby sitting program that's very expensive. High schools aren't places where kids learn, but are just hangout clubs with criminals.

And even when it comes to learning, MCPS is a joke. You basically can't fail students. They can still pass by just attending a few classes even with tons of truancy. They get so many do overs, extra credits and re-tests. They bus ton of poverty into schools for equity purposes, but in the end result equity really equates to everything becoming a lot crappier because the bar is never raised for all of the poor kids and all of the English as a second language kids, they inevitably must lower the bar for everyone because they'd have to fail too many students who clearly can't pass.

I seriously don't understand why taxes go up for this freak show. Liberals and progressives are getting exactly what they voted for. I kinda hope it starts making people of means leave the county. Then property values will tank and the tax base for MoCo's progressive council in implodes.

MoCo is well on its way to becoming Baltimore in terms of failed schools, high crime, and stifling taxes that drive out everyone decent.

I know right? That's why MCPS has a 100% graduation rate...NOT.
Idiot

89.6% as of 2023.

Much higher than City of Baltimore, as it happens, which is 70%.

Your point??????

PP point was that you’re incredibly dim. I agree.