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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are no proposed changes in the table. How are you guys getting so far ahead of yourself? It’s wacky.

Once "proposed" changes are made public, the decision will already have been made.

Anyone who thinks that the school board and reid are not already well into the planning stages for rezoning is being very foolish.

They likely had a list of schools to rezone when McDaniel pushed forward changing 8130.

The changes to the policy make very little sense, especially the potential for rezoning every 5 years, and were pushed through very quickly completely ignoring community feedback.

It is obvious that the school board was changing 8130 to fit a draft rezoning plan, rather than shaping a thoughful and logical policy to look at long term solutions.

With a fall of 2025 or not later than fall of 2026 rezoning goal, there is no way they do not already have a rezoning plan in place that they are tweaking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are lots of rumors that gatehouse people have shared info about maps with people…

Rumors, conspiracy theories … sounds like a great basis for discussion.

[Anonymous]

Not getting your way is not the same as being ignored.

Nearly all of the Board’s actions around 8130 have been consistent with the stated goals of improving transportation efficiency and facility/capacity utilization while providing flexibility to accommodate future growth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Nonsense.

The power to overhaul boundaries every five years means the school board will prevent people from sorting themselves inequitably.

All schools will be maintained at an acceptable mix of socioeconomic and racial diversity.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Nonsense.

The power to overhaul boundaries every five years means the school board will prevent people from sorting themselves inequitably.

All schools will be maintained at an acceptable mix of socioeconomic and racial diversity.

What’s an “acceptable mix”?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Nonsense.

The power to overhaul boundaries every five years means the school board will prevent people from sorting themselves inequitably.

All schools will be maintained at an acceptable mix of socioeconomic and racial diversity.

What’s an “acceptable mix”?

I'm stuck on "sorting themselves inequitably" . . . it's like people are a resource with no right to agency. This is some dystopian stuff!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are lots of rumors that gatehouse people have shared info about maps with people…

Rumors, conspiracy theories … sounds like a great basis for discussion.

And the Elephant in the Room [McKay on Mount Vernon open capacity] east of 95 is the fact that Corbett Sanders Storck McKay etc floated the bonds and expanded West Potomac . Meanwhile Edison is projected to be over capacity, the CIP s don't break down site usage for academies, no breakdowns on academy students. Fact is lots of square footage at Lewis could have been used for academies maybe moved from Edison and West Potomac. Repurpose the site at the Mixing Bowl. FCPS continues to screw over the military connected families - case in point is IB at Mount Vernon which is the base school for students residing on Fort Belvoir. Very few military connected students attend Lewis- less than 1% , 16.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Nonsense.

The power to overhaul boundaries every five years means the school board will prevent people from sorting themselves inequitably.

All schools will be maintained at an acceptable mix of socioeconomic and racial diversity.

This will not work. People with resources will opt out of public school or relocate to a nearby county that does prioritize "equity" over learning. Equity is completely unattainable and it will never happen. Outcomes will never be equal among kids from families with different family income levels, educational attainment, and cultural backgrounds. Moving kids around to create "equity" does not improve the quality of education, it only hides existing disparities. What happened to promoting educational excellence and encouraging everyone to reach their full potential?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are no proposed changes in the table. How are you guys getting so far ahead of yourself? It’s wacky.

They're all worked up from the last 400 page thread that got locked. They're just reposting all the same stuff over again in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are no proposed changes in the table. How are you guys getting so far ahead of yourself? It’s wacky.

They're all worked up from the last 400 page thread that got locked. They're just reposting all the same stuff over again in this thread.

Hi pot, I’m kettle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Nonsense.

The power to overhaul boundaries every five years means the school board will prevent people from sorting themselves inequitably.

All schools will be maintained at an acceptable mix of socioeconomic and racial diversity.

What party is for providing some additional support and resources when needed to disadvantaged kids but not using other people’s kids as resources?

That’s the party that I’d like to belong to. Your vision is junk IMO and way worse than the conservative views on education, which I’m also not really into. Unfortunately, I think that Sandy Anderson and crew are aligned with your view.

Wish this board could just be moderate rather than extreme.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Nonsense.

The power to overhaul boundaries every five years means the school board will prevent people from sorting themselves inequitably.

All schools will be maintained at an acceptable mix of socioeconomic and racial diversity.

What party is for providing some additional support and resources when needed to disadvantaged kids but not using other people’s kids as resources?

That’s the party that I’d like to belong to. Your vision is junk IMO and way worse than the conservative views on education, which I’m also not really into. Unfortunately, I think that Sandy Anderson and crew are aligned with your view.

Wish this board could just be moderate rather than extreme.

I’ve watched a handful of school board meetings and work sessions, and what you describe falls in line with the vision they’re presenting. The students they talk about moving are the ones in attendance islands that are bused to schools outside of their communities like Halley, Fort Hunt, and Groveton. They’ve mentioned academies for improving enrollment and shifting AP Center assignments. This isn’t to discredit parents concerns, as we have no idea what boundary changes are actually going to be presented, and they’ve done little to ease the rampant rumors.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are lots of rumors that gatehouse people have shared info about maps with people…

Rumors, conspiracy theories … sounds like a great basis for discussion.

That is all it takes to immobilize!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Nonsense.

The power to overhaul boundaries every five years means the school board will prevent people from sorting themselves inequitably.

All schools will be maintained at an acceptable mix of socioeconomic and racial diversity.

What party is for providing some additional support and resources when needed to disadvantaged kids but not using other people’s kids as resources?

That’s the party that I’d like to belong to. Your vision is junk IMO and way worse than the conservative views on education, which I’m also not really into. Unfortunately, I think that Sandy Anderson and crew are aligned with your view.

Wish this board could just be moderate rather than extreme.

I’ve watched a handful of school board meetings and work sessions, and what you describe falls in line with the vision they’re presenting. The students they talk about moving are the ones in attendance islands that are bused to schools outside of their communities like Halley, Fort Hunt, and Groveton. They’ve mentioned academies for improving enrollment and shifting AP Center assignments. This isn’t to discredit parents concerns, as we have no idea what boundary changes are actually going to be presented, and they’ve done little to ease the rampant rumors.

I’m PP. You are as extreme as the school board. Kids should never be the resource of choice. This board, and Sandy Anderson in particular are singularly focused on averaging out the schools for equity no matter the actual cost.

That is not moderate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Once again, FCPS is looking thru their equity lens; this a part of the great plan to boost achievement and of course lessen the FARMS numbers. I hope parents refuse to accept this arrangement.

These equity moves only reduce the % of FARMS within the school's population, the moves do not lessen the FARMS numbers or help the existing FARMS population. One of two things will happen when high SES kids are cut over to Lewis as tribute: 1) They will immediately start taking opportunities that existing Lewis kids previously had like leadership/sports/club positions, to the detriment of the current Lewis population, or 2) Non-assimilation of the new 'rich kids', the face of which will be the white population. Lewis had 196 white students in 2023. The equity move will increase this number to 396, assuming an entire ES is moved over (4 HS grades, 100 students per grade, 50% white). It will be no secret to the entire student body, and particularly a 63% FARMS population that 'rich kids' were imported to make the failing school better, and the face of the imported 'rich kids' will be the white population that doubles in size from 10% to 20%. And yes, WSHS area is not Vienna/McLean/Tysons 'rich', but even small things like driving a car to school and having premium sports equipment makes one a target of resent. If I was a non-white and/or FARMS student I would resent these new kids and treat them differently, and with good reason. The message that the SB is unintentionally sending to these Lewis students (88% non-white) is that they are not good enough, so bring in the rich kids to make things better. And because of the existing Lewis population and the population that's projected to move over, the white kids will be seen as the 'rich kids'.

In any case, this is going to be a highly consequential social experiment within the school and a social and socioeconomic experience for whatever community is given as tribute to Lewis. I believe it will achieve equity goals for making living in West Springfield more on par with Springfield. Over the next 10 years you will see a yet-to-be-determined West Springfield neighborhood area decline at the community level in both property values and the quality of people living in the community. Think some areas of Woodbridge circa 2008 housing crash and the decline of those areas as new populations flooded in. This boundary transaction will be the example pointed to as families pay a premium for proximity to high schools that are not adjacent to urban population centers with section 8 housing and apartment dense areas.

Yikes! Are you saying that parents that left their war torn countries and risked their lives in search of a safer future for their children are low quality people? Ok, gotcha. Or is it something else?