Did anyone's kids NOT get into a frat or sorority - one

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Happened at William & Mary. Got into a sorority she ultimately rejected. Harder experience than
expected.

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Anonymous wrote:What percent of spots are sewn up in advance over summer? ie “dirty rush”

80-90%?

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But if you want access to the best parties, the best girls, and the best networking opportunities (particularly in majors like business and finance), you need to be in a frat.

I suspect you won't believe me, but I used to work at 2 different financial companies--big ones. There were people who automatically dinged every resume that included frat membership. I'm sure that there were others who saw it as a plus, but not everyone does.

I believe you but that is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m so glad that my kids rejected any school with an active Greek life. In 2024, frats and sororities just seem so passé. Paying to have friends, following silly rules in the hope of being “chosen”, surrounding yourself with people just like you? College is the time to expose yourself to new people and ideas, to challenge your beliefs, and grow - not merely reinforce archaic social structures.

I am so glad that you're so glad. I am also glad that my kids DID go to a school with a healthy greek culture, and have joined Greek house and are very happy. My initially quiet and introverted DS found a fraternity of people who were similar to him and they have helped him come out of his shell quite a bit. He is very thankful he decided to rush at the very last minute and ha made lifelong friends. Never had any issues with pledging/hazing and no stress over whether he'd get in. Just a nice low key fraternity of 45 people.

My much more social and outgoing DD went through a somewhat stressful sorority rush but ended up at a great place for her, a sorority with 150 people. Guess what, they are not all clones of each other, imagine that, you will still meet a very diverse group of women, even many who you would probably have not met otherwise because everyone has such diverse interests. But they have fun together and she has a solid group of friends now as a senior that are almost all in her sorority with her. It just helps make a larger university smaller. She will be living in a house with 8 other of her sisters for her senior year. It's not "paying for friends" any more than paying club dues. You are paying for events, use of the house etc.

Your children got lucky. A lot of people did not have this experience from rush.

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Anonymous wrote:LOL, I went to Syracuse in the bad old '80s, back in the day of circling fat and putting pledges in car trunks. I got cut from the "best" houses, and I wasn't completely comfortable with the process anyway, so I quit after a couple of rounds of rush.

Sorry Syracuse grad and this never happened. I was in a popular house in late 80s and no one circled fat or put on cars. You are relying on urban myth. FYI a lot of girls who dropped would speak this nonsense. Syracuse was a schools where everyone gets a bid unless they only choose one house. Very inclusive.

One of my favorite thing all frat alum do is deny as much as possible things that likely happened, but they don't like to talk about it. My alma mater has frat alum who talk about how amazing and inclusive their frat was in the 80s when, if any person of color tried getting in, they had to go down to the basement of the house, and have the frat guys sing racist songs and sing along to show they are "one of them." One of the frats would literally have a day dedicated to running with scales over to sorority row and weigh all the girls. But, you know what those frat and sorority girls say about the experience? Just lovely, a great place to meet philanthropy minded people.

DP.

No idea on frats but Syracuse sororities did not haze in the late 80s. There were always runouts like sitting on a dryer if too fat or circling fat but it never ever happened and usually was disgruntled students who didn’t like sororities. I was on rush committee and it was so strict with Panhellenic at Syracuse. A sister couldn’t even ask a pledge (now not called pledges) to carry their books let alone anything drinking related. There was also an opportunity for everyone to get a bid but some girls didn’t like final options so they dropped. I am assuming it is even stricter today as it should be. No one should be hazed and there should be no forced drinking at sororities or fraternities

I wonder why they might be disgruntled.

Underage students "couldn't even" drink, either, but that's never stopped Greek organizations

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For girls, wealth matters.
And a curated IG library of photos & friends…

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Omg why why why

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Any stories of freshmen girls who didn’t rush and made a great group of friends in other ways. DD does not think she wants to put herself through rush. She’s not a huge parties, just is hoping to make a nice group of friends. She’s going to a mid size Jesuit school.

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Anonymous wrote:Omg why why why

Agree!

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Anonymous wrote:Any stories of freshmen girls who didn’t rush and made a great group of friends in other ways. DD does not think she wants to put herself through rush. She’s not a huge parties, just is hoping to make a nice group of friends. She’s going to a mid size Jesuit school.

Does her Jesuit college have Greek life?

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Anonymous wrote:Any stories of freshmen girls who didn’t rush and made a great group of friends in other ways. DD does not think she wants to put herself through rush. She’s not a huge parties, just is hoping to make a nice group of friends. She’s going to a mid size Jesuit school.

Does her Jesuit college have Greek life?

Yes it does but she Would rather not rush. Hoping to make friends in other ways